Julian Assange says his next leak will virtually guarantee an indictment of Hillary

ocean515 · Jul 23, 2016

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Jack Hays said:
Hard to say, actually.

I would argue otherwise Jack. It's common knowledge the US has been doing all the heavy lifting of NATO for decades. While direct payments are something like 22% of NATO's budget, according to agreements, the other spending is completely disproportionate, and other NATO members have not been living up to their obligations. Calling them out on it does not mean Trump would back out.

I would suggest the contrary is likely true. The other Nations need the United States. Getting them to take their obligations seriously would result in a stronger NATO.

eohrnberger · Jul 23, 2016

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Jack Hays said:
Insurgent, anti-free trade, man of the people with a hint of potential violence. Fighting for the little guy against powerful elites.

OK. In that I can see the comparison. Thanks.

bubbabgone · Jul 23, 2016

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shagg said:
Many have said, if she is going to get indicted, it won't be over emails or benghazi. It will be something Clinton Foundation related. It feels like those times you imagine winning the lottery and what you would do with the money, but I can't help but play the "What if?" game. What if....something came out that made her sure to lose the general election?

Well, after having digested the previous email dump and stewed on the apparent fact that the DNC machine, contrary to it's own rules, was pulling for Shillary from the very beginning and running on all 8 cylinders while doing it. A lot of people are considering that maybe he would have won a fair contest. Now we get another dump friday, with more showing how they came up with attack strategies, at a time they were publicly demanding he back of his attacks and keep it civil in the party. Practically directing the media. If she is indicted or excluded in the next week, the DNC will have no choice but Bernie. Being so last minute, and with all that we've seen these last few weeks suggesting he either should have either lost a nail biter or won, the DNC won't have a chance to play Biden, or Bloomberg. Anyone the DNC reaches for who isn't Bernie will be seen as a puppet for a corrupt establishment, and Bernie would be perfectly justified in running 3rd party and have very good odds on election day. The timing can't be coincidental, and if I held the cards Assange claims he has next to the ones he's played already, I'd play them out the same way if I didn't want her as POTUS.

Here's for hoping!

Here's the thing about the Clinton Foundation "scandal".
Even given what we already know about what it does, who runs it, how it operates, and especially who benefits from it, it's not certain there has been proof of anything illegal.
But it stinks to high heaven and certainly fleshes out what most people suspect about Bill's & Hill's character.
The operation has been purposely convoluted and naturally hard to follow but if there are any Assange emails that make it clear what Bill & Hill were doing and who profited, besides them, and if there were any violations of Federal Law while at State or in the Senate, well ... that would make this a very interesting summer.

bubbabgone · Jul 23, 2016

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Tigerace117 said:
Julian Assange is a scumbag. I'd take anything he says with a grain of salt.

Sure he is ... but he did have those DNC emails ...................

eohrnberger · Jul 23, 2016

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Jack Hays said:
Putin sees Trump as someone who might abandon his NATO obligations.

ocean515 said:
I would argue otherwise Jack. It's common knowledge the US has been doing all the heavy lifting of NATO for decades. While direct payments are something like 22% of NATO's budget, according to agreements, the other spending is completely disproportionate, and other NATO members have not been living up to their obligations. Calling them out on it does not mean Trump would back out.

I would suggest the contrary is likely true. The other Nations need the United States. Getting them to take their obligations seriously would result in a stronger NATO.

Yeah, I'm finding it hard to believe that the US would exist NATO, and further that the US would allow NATO to collapse, especially considering that NATO may be, or already has been, called on to combat ISIS and other radical, militant Muslim extremists.

bubbabgone · Jul 23, 2016

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eohrnberger said:
I think Julian Assange is blowing his WikiLeaks horn, as it seems to me that it's struggling for relevance after an initial spate of high profile leaks.

I rather doubt that anything that WikiLeaks can reveal wasn't already found by the FBI investigation, and possibly squashed by either Lynch, or the administration or Obama.

Don't get me wrong. If it happens and Hillary is indicted, I wont' shed a tear. I might even possibly start believing that 'too big to jail' isn't just some stupid misdirecting slogan for the idiot masses to consume and that there might even be a shred of integrity left in the US criminal justice system.

He's talking about the Clinton Foundation with these emails.
But wouldn't it be a pisser if Assange has some of those emails Hillary deleted?
That could certainly be an overlap with the FBI's completed email investigation.
She sure wouldn't want any emails about the Clinton Foundation popping up anywhere anytime.

eohrnberger · Jul 23, 2016

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bubbabgone said:
He's talking about the Clinton Foundation with these emails.
But wouldn't it be a pisser if Assange has some of those emails Hillary deleted?
That could certainly be an overlap with the FBI's completed email investigation.
She sure wouldn't want any emails about the Clinton Foundation popping up anywhere anytime.

Umm, wasn't the emails he was talking about the DNC ones? Or the ones that have already been released from State?

Yeah, it'd be a real pisser if it were deleted Hillary emails. For sure.

Overlap. If it were deleted emails, yeah.

Of course Hillary wouldn't want Clinton Foundation emails to be made public or come under scrutiny, it would most likely reveal how she sold her SoS position in the Russian Uranium deal, with the payoff going to the Clinton Foundation slush fund.

Moot · Jul 23, 2016

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iguanaman said:
Herr Trumph has always dreamed of putting a Trumph Tower in Moscow and his comments about NATO just might get it done. He doesn't need any maneuvering, he is firmly in Putin's pocket. They are like 2 peas in a pod. Keep you populace scared to death so you can pick their pockets. His campaign manager has already worked with Pro-Putin elements in the Ukraine.

For almost four decades, Donald Trump’s newly installed senior campaign adviser, Paul Manafort, has managed to juggle two different worlds: well known during US election season as a shrewd and tough political operative, he also boasts a hefty résumé as a consultant to or lobbyist for controversial foreign leaders and oligarchs with unsavory reputations.

The controversial clients Manafort has represented have paid him and his firms millions of dollars and form a who’s who of authoritarian leaders and scandal-plagued businessmen in Ukraine, Russia, the Philippines and more. On some occasions, Manafort has become involved in business deals that have sparked litigation and allegations of impropriety.

Click to expand...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/27/paul-manafort-donald-trump-campaign-past-clients

I'll have to remember that when the right attack Podesta. lol

But then again...maybe that's why they're not.

ocean515 · Jul 23, 2016

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rocket88 said:
Trump says US may abandon automatic protections for Nato countries - BBC News

Emphasis on MAY. I'm curious why "may" automatically causes some people to change the word to "will".

Would "pretty please live up to your obligations to your own security" be better?

ocean515 · Jul 23, 2016

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eohrnberger said:
Yeah, I'm finding it hard to believe that the US would exist NATO, and further that the US would allow NATO to collapse, especially considering that NATO may be, or already has been, called on to combat ISIS and other radical, militant Muslim extremists.

I'm of the same belief.

Pumpkin Row · Jul 23, 2016

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Moot said:
First...you're not a mind reader and you have no idea of her intent except what she has admitted under oath and to the FBI.

Second...you're basing your false conclusions on the false premise that you can read her mind and that you know the law. Neither of which are true.

I don't need to be a mind reader, she lied under oath, lied to the American people, and tried to destroy evidence. As I said in my previous post, what were the intentions behind lying, holding onto the emails for two years before destroying the ones she didn't send, destroying work-related emails, and dismantling her server, if it wasn't in an attempt to hide her guilt? She even waited until there was an investigation to do it.

azgreg · Jul 23, 2016

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Unitedwestand13 said:
Russia is the most likely suspect.

You're right, Russia is a better guess than Franco.

Pumpkin Row · Jul 23, 2016

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eohrnberger said:
And yet, with all this clearly criminal actions Hillary took, the FBI still recommended that prosecution shouldn't proceed.

Is there really any doubt the fix was in?
Is there really any doubt that Hillary appears to be to big to jail?

Given all this, is it still very much baffling that so many would still vote her into POTUS.

Comey was appointed by Bush, the Bush family is close friends with the Clinton family. Lynch acted to prevent an indictment, Comey acted to prevent an indictment, and even on the off chance it moved forward, Obama would have pardoned her. There was, and is absolutely no chance she will be indicted for her crimes. Of course, we don't need the Washington Establishment to tell us in order to know she's a criminal. The only people they're fooling are the left-wing drones, and likely not even them. They just don't care that she's a criminal, so long as she's left.

Vox · Jul 23, 2016

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Well, after having digested the previous email dump and stewed on the apparent fact that the DNC machine, contrary to it's own rules, was pulling for Shillary from the very beginning and running on all 8 cylinders while doing it. A lot of people are considering that maybe he would have won a fair contest. Now we get another dump friday, with more showing how they came up with attack strategies, at a time they were publicly demanding he back of his attacks and keep it civil in the party. Practically directing the media. If she is indicted or excluded in the next week, the DNC will have no choice but Bernie. Being so last minute, and with all that we've seen these last few weeks suggesting he either should have either lost a nail biter or won, the DNC won't have a chance to play Biden, or Bloomberg. Anyone the DNC reaches for who isn't Bernie will be seen as a puppet for a corrupt establishment, and Bernie would be perfectly justified in running 3rd party and have very good odds on election day. The timing can't be coincidental, and if I held the cards Assange claims he has next to the ones he's played already, I'd play them out the same way if I didn't want her as POTUS.

Wouldn't that be nice?

Fingers crossed here.

Moot · Jul 23, 2016

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Pumpkin Row said:
I don't need to be a mind reader, she lied under oath, lied to the American people, and tried to destroy evidence. As I said in my previous post, what were the intentions behind lying, holding onto the emails for two years before destroying the ones she didn't send, destroying work-related emails, and dismantling her server, if it wasn't in an attempt to hide her guilt? She even waited until there was an investigation to do it.

What did she lie about that five congressional committees, countless hearings, the US State Department, NARA and an FBI investigation couldn't find?

"We have no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI," Comey told House Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) during one of the hearing's opening exchanges.

Asked whether Clinton lied under oath, Comey remarked that she did not do so to the FBI.

"Did Hillary Clinton break the law?" Chaffetz asked.

"In connection with her use of the email server? My judgment is that she did not," Comey said.

Chaffetz then asked whether it was that he was just not able to prosecute it or that Clinton broke the law.

"Well, I don't want to give an overly lawyerly answer," Comey said. "The question I always look at is there evidence that would establish beyond a reasonable doubt that somebody engaged in conduct that violated a criminal statute, and my judgment here is there is not. "

Comey: Clinton did not lie to the FBI - POLITICO

eohrnberger · Jul 23, 2016

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Pumpkin Row said:
Comey was appointed by Bush, the Bush family is close friends with the Clinton family. Lynch acted to prevent an indictment, Comey acted to prevent an indictment, and even on the off chance it moved forward, Obama would have pardoned her. There was, and is absolutely no chance she will be indicted for her crimes. Of course, we don't need the Washington Establishment to tell us in order to know she's a criminal. The only people they're fooling are the left-wing drones, and likely not even them. They just don't care that she's a criminal, so long as she's left.

Oh what a tangled web we weave at the political elite level. Just so long as the little people don't ever find out. Ooops.

eohrnberger · Jul 23, 2016

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Moot said:
What did she lie about that five congressional committees, countless hearings, the US State Department, NARA and an FBI investigation couldn't find?
"We have no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI," Comey told House Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) during one of the hearing's opening exchanges.

Asked whether Clinton lied under oath, Comey remarked that she did not do so to the FBI.

"Did Hillary Clinton break the law?" Chaffetz asked.

"In connection with her use of the email server? My judgment is that she did not," Comey said.

Chaffetz then asked whether it was that he was just not able to prosecute it or that Clinton broke the law.

"Well, I don't want to give an overly lawyerly answer," Comey said. "The question I always look at is there evidence that would establish beyond a reasonable doubt that somebody engaged in conduct that violated a criminal statute, and my judgment here is there is not. "

Comey: Clinton did not lie to the FBI - POLITICO

If I might help out.

On Monday House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., sent a letter to U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia asking for an investigation into whether she lied when testifying to Congress about her use of a private email server.

“The evidence collected by the FBI during its investigation of Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal email system appears to directly contradict several aspects of her sworn testimony,” Chaffetz and Goodlatte wrote in the letter.

“In light of those contradictions, the Department should investigate and determine whether to prosecute Secretary Clinton for violating statutes that prohibit perjury and false statements to Congress, or any other relevant statutes,” the letter continues.

Did Clinton lie to Congress about email? GOP seeks perjury probe

Republican leaders asked the Justice Department on Monday to open a criminal investigation into whether Hillary Clinton lied to Congress in testimony last fall about her private email server, opening a new front in their long-running attacks on the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/us/politics/gop-seeks-criminal-inquiry-of-hillary-clintons-testimony-to-congress.html

Seems to be that Mrs. Clinton's testimony before congress had some inconsistencies with facts from other independent sources (I'm thinking the FBI's investigation). Let's hope that the Republican congressmen that are going to handle this aren't as ham fisted as the ones handling other investigations.

I think on this front, the electorate is warranted to demand more and better performance.

Quazimodo · Jul 23, 2016

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Pumpkin Row said:
Read the laws instead of taking someone's word for it. I'd like to think you're someone who thinks for themselves instead of taking someone's word for it because. Just because. I just showed you every law she broke based on Comey's information. This means that Comey has unintentionally testified against her. He also never specifically said she broke no laws. If I recall correctly, and I'm fairly certain I do, all he said was that using a private server did not break the law, not that what she did with it didn't break the law.

Careful Pumpkin Row. If you push to hard we'll have to set up "DP WIDE SUICIDE WATCH."

Northern Light · Jul 23, 2016

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The establishment won't go after Clinton. It's pretty obvious by now. They're protecting their own.

calamity · Jul 23, 2016

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bubbabgone said:
http://silenceisconsent.net/breakin...illary-clinton/#sthash.y2hjscEV.XlUBeoXU.dpbs

Not much detail and leaving aside the Comey and Lynch speed bumps, this does sound interesting on its' face given the hacked DNC emails already released.

lol...know we know why Assange said he'd be dead if he ever left that embassy. :lol:

Quazimodo · Jul 23, 2016

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bubbabgone said:
He's talking about the Clinton Foundation with these emails.
But wouldn't it be a pisser if Assange has some of those emails Hillary deleted?
That could certainly be an overlap with the FBI's completed email investigation.
She sure wouldn't want any emails about the Clinton Foundation popping up anywhere anytime.

Bingo!

Moot · Jul 23, 2016

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eohrnberger said:
If I might help out.

Seems to be that Mrs. Clinton's testimony before congress had some inconsistencies with facts from other independent sources (I'm thinking the FBI's investigation). Let's hope that the Republican congressmen that are going to handle this aren't as ham fisted as the ones handling other investigations.

I think on this front, the electorate is warranted to demand more and better performance.

I'm truly embarrassed that Rep. Chaffetz is from my state. He is what Comey would describe as "unreasonable". If anyone should go to jail it's Chaffetz...for exposing the highly classified location of the CIA annex in Benghazi on Cspan and undermining the entire mission that Amb. Chris Stevens risked his life and died for. So it might not hurt to remind Chaffetz and the public just why the Benghazi mission really failed and why the US doesn't have a presence in Lybia when they needed it the most. And then there's Darrel Issa who released Hillary's classified emails onto the internet before they had been redacted by the State Dept. Ooopsie.

I don't know why it is...but it seems the Clinton's worst accusers are usually guilty of the same crimes, or worse, that they accuse the Clintons of. For instance, Bill Clinton's worst accusers during the Lewinski monkey trials turned out to be pedophiles, sex molesters and adulterers themselves. And then there's Chaffetz and Issa who in their zeal to nail Hillary...exposed highly classified information on TV and the internet...with malice intent.

DiAnna · Jul 23, 2016

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Beaudreaux said:
I think what they're saying, is that there may be proof in the hacked documents that the FBI didn't see that may prove she may have done exactly that. That's at least what it sounds like. As for me, it's all BS until whatever it is, is actually disclosed and authenticated.

What evidence is there that the FBI didn't see those emails? According to Comey, the FBI had access to all of them, and when badgered by congress about this phrase indicating the removal of "classification" prior to sending, he explained to congress exactly what I said... that the State Dept. policy is and for all intents and purposes always has been to remove classified information before resending the rest of the document to an unsecure server. That is exactly what Clinton was requesting, and according to Comey, exactly what was done.

rocket88 · Jul 23, 2016

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ocean515 said:
Emphasis on MAY. I'm curious why "may" automatically causes some people to change the word to "will".

Would "pretty please live up to your obligations to your own security" be better?

If he said "may," it's not a big stretch to wonder where Putin got this idea that he "may" abandon our allies, is it?

rocket88 · Jul 23, 2016

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eohrnberger said:
Yeah, I'm finding it hard to believe that the US would exist NATO, and further that the US would allow NATO to collapse, especially considering that NATO may be, or already has been, called on to combat ISIS and other radical, militant Muslim extremists.

Then maybe your Messiah should stop suggesting it. Just a thought. Crazy, I know. I mean, we want our allies to think they can't count on us.

If the doubts if it keep mounting, I'd look for more nations to see what Putin will do for them. That would be a hyuuuge foreign policy win.

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