DETROIT — In a historic ruling that provided a huge morale boost to the gay-rights movement, a federal judge Friday struck down Michigan's ban on same-sex marriage, making it the 18th state in the nation to allow gays and lesbians to join in matrimony just like their heterosexual counterparts.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/21/michigan-gay-marriage-ban/671022
Another one bites the dust. It is noteworthy that not a single judge at any level has upheld a same-sex marriage ban since Windsor.
This seems so silly to me. It's obvious that SSM is here to stay . . . that it's going to be ruled unconstitutional to ban it. Why are states wasting taxpayer money trying to fight it?? Taxpayers should be furious.
Scary.http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/21/michigan-gay-marriage-ban/671022
Another one bites the dust. It is noteworthy that not a single judge at any level has upheld a same-sex marriage ban since Windsor.
To endorse the people to act like Nero seems ill fated to me. Taxpayers should be furious about their will being countermanded by a tyranny of the few.This seems so silly to me. It's obvious that SSM is here to stay . . . that it's going to be ruled unconstitutional to ban it. Why are states wasting taxpayer money trying to fight it?? Taxpayers should be furious.
Yes, that is what they said about getting rid of slavery at one point as well. Your proclamations to the contrary, all such injustice will be eventually rooted out. No doubt replaced by another one that we will have to manage then eventually iron out... its always a moving target and always trying to get it right, or at least better.Trying to outlaw SSM makes as much sense as banning abortion or shutting down Gov't by holding your breath to stop the ACA.
You may be against these things...but they aren't going anywhere, like screaming in your bedroom when you were three and being punished for hitting your sister.
To endorse the people to act like Nero seems ill fated to me. Taxpayers should be furious about their will being countermanded by a tyranny of the few.
We had a revolution about that.
Scary.
So We, you know, the People, do not get to decide what is acceptable and not in our own culture anymore?
Yes, that is what they said about getting rid of slavery at one point as well. Your proclamations to the contrary, all such injustice will be eventually rooted out. No doubt replaced by another one that we will have to manage then eventually iron out... its always a moving target and always trying to get it right, or at least better.
ACA [boo-bamacare], SSM and abortion are not the saviors, they amongst the ragged holes needing a good patching back up.
Scary.
So We, you know, the People, do not get to decide what is acceptable and not in our own culture anymore? Judicial tyrants decide that for us now, do they?
Scary.
That is one way of looking at it. There are others. We have accepted majority rules with the provision for minority rights... this manner of accomplishing one's cultural aims seems a slight circumvention of those noble concepts.Because there are taxpayers that want these bans no matter the monetary cost. They can't see past their own selves enough to realize that trying to ban it is a lost cause.
Yes, we understand the above is your opinion. Many of these bans, or in many cases only a statement of what is considered in the culture to be rightful marriage, has been through the arduous paces of becoming an amendment. That is an indication of the common will...a willingness to jump through all the hoops necessary, deliberately and persistently enough to become a solid declaration of the citizen's will.IMO, the majority of people in the United States couldn't care any less that SSM is allowed. So, yes, taxpayers should be furious that the tyranny of a few is wasting their money. You've just picked the wrong side.
False, you can decide for yourself what is acceptable, but you don't have the right to decide what rights people have, that is left for the Congress and the courts to decide. The tyranny of the majority...Scary.
So We, you know, the People, do not get to decide what is acceptable and not in our own culture anymore? Judicial tyrants decide that for us now, do they?
Scary.
Scary.
So We, you know, the People, do not get to decide what is acceptable and not in our own culture anymore? Judicial tyrants decide that for us now, do they?
Scary.
Yes...and so...what?? Marriage, is not/should not be under the purview of the Federal government, for one thing. Those powers of conferment of such statuses are reserved to the states.Correct.
The People, through the govt, get to decide what is legal (not acceptable) but only within the limits set by our constitution.
As an individual, you can accept (or not) whatever you choose. However, you must obey the law or suffer the consequences.
Yes...and so...what??
Well, perhaps a study of history might be helpful then, eh?I don't remember "them" saying that about slavery....probably because I wasn't there to listen, and no one bothered to write is down for me.
By the way....thanks for showing the validity of my point.
We are square on that then.Sure you can. As long as you don't try to suppress other peoples Rights. Just like its always been.
Scary.
So We, you know, the People, do not get to decide what is acceptable and not in our own culture anymore? Judicial tyrants decide that for us now, do they?
Scary.
Speaking of False, the "Congress and the courts to decide" only in their proper areas of jurisdiction... and only then if We the People, who are the sovereigns still here, yano, say they may.False, you can decide for yourself what is acceptable, but you don't have the right to decide what rights people have, that is left for the Congress and the courts to decide. The tyranny of the majority...
Scary.
So We, you know, the People, do not get to decide what is acceptable and not in our own culture anymore? Judicial tyrants decide that for us now, do they?
Scary.
Yes, yet we still do have the right to assemble with those we choose, to have the right to speak our minds, freedom to publish what we believe to be the right way to proceed, the right to petition our government for redress. And, of course, we have the freedom to practice the tenets of our various religions and philosophies... we also have provisions for changing how we are governed through amendment to our framework of governing. There are also reserved, enumerated and implied powers...There is no provison in the Constitution that provides 'culture' equal protection...
Speaking of False, the "Congress and the courts to decide" only in their proper areas of jurisdiction... and only then if We the People,who are the sovereigns still here,yano, say they may. Check out the 9th and 10 amendments in our Bill of Rights... while seldom used they are still applicable. If you don't think so, amend them as prescribed by our Constitution.
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