The judge in the case of one of the officers who arrested Freddie Gray grilled prosecutors during closing arguments Thursday -- questioning whether a crime was in fact committed.“So, every time there’s an arrest without probable justification – it is a crime?” Baltimore JudgeBarry Williams asked incredulously. “I’m trying to make sure it was a criminal assault. Touching Freddie Gray is assault?”
“I can’t believe I even have to argue this,” he said. “The detention is OK, the cuffing is OK, the moving is OK,” he said. “Being detained is a horrible thing, being cuffed is a horrible thing…but the law allows it.”
The first officer to go to trial ended with a hung jury. Sounds like a really good chance that this cop will be found not guilty.
Appeared the charges were more about politics then finding a real crime - at least based on the evidence i am aware of.
Judge Questions If Crime Was Committed in Freddie Gray Officer Case - ABC News
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I'm not surprised. At the time, listening to the Mayor of Baltimore and the State's Attorney General who brought the charges, it sounded far more like a politically motivated police lynching than any attempt to seek justice.
No you wouldn't.Just to point out.
If I put my hands on you without justification (self defense), and by accident you died, I would be charged with at least assault and more likely battery and possible manslaughter.
Why is a government official exempt from the same?
Just to point out.
If I put my hands on you without justification (self defense), and by accident you died, I would be charged with at least assault and more likely battery and possible manslaughter.
Why is a government official exempt from the same?
Because that "government official's" job is sometimes to put their hands upon you without what YOU consider justification. That's why.
Not if the circumstances were the same as this case. So stop with with the absurd non-comparative comparisons.And yes.. if I put my hands on someone that's not justified and as a consequence they died.. I would be charged with at least assault and probably battery if not manslaughter.
Just to point out.
If I put my hands on you without justification (self defense), and by accident you died, I would be charged with at least assault and more likely battery and possible manslaughter.
Why is a government official exempt from the same?
The first officer to go to trial ended with a hung jury. Sounds like a really good chance that this cop will be found not guilty.
Appeared the charges were more about politics then finding a real crime - at least based on the evidence i am aware of.
The prosecutor's whole argument comes down to what they believe was a 3 minute period of time being too long.
but some of the focus is on their actions in placing him in the van handcuffed by not restrained so that it'd be very easy to fall of the metal bench if, say, you took a sharp turn or jammed on the breaks.
Capt. Justin Reynolds, a Baltimore police officer currently on medical leave, was certified as an expert in officer training, policies and procedures, and testified Wednesday that general orders are simply guidelines. He said officers always have discretion as to whether to follow them and noted the configuration of seat belts in the department's wagons are "spaghetti-like in two pieces" — making it virtually impossible to buckle in an uncooperative prisoner. Gray was agitated and kicking about in the van, according to testimony.
Apparently you are not paying attention.No, that's not the whole argument.
Ah hello!There are different defendants, yes, but some of the focus is on their actions in placing him in the van handcuffed by not restrained so that it'd be very easy to fall of the metal bench if, say, you took a sharp turn or jammed on the breaks. There was also a dispute of whether they ignored requests by him for medical care.
* (See #3 below)., but some of the focus is on their actions in placing him in the van handcuffed by not restrained so that it'd be very easy to fall of the metal bench if, say, you took a sharp turn or jammed on the breaks.
Oh gawd!There was also a dispute of whether they ignored requests by him for medical care.
Stop. You just can't suppose something is true without evidence to support it.But, we need police testimony for most of that, and they aren't going to rat each other out.
1. Irrelevant to this Officer's actions.(I also recall some earlier disgusting suggestion that Gray deliberately tried to injure himself for the purpose of claiming excessive force)
WTF do you mean spontaneously?As I asked the other person: how often do you think people just spontaneously break their necks and die, in completely innocent circumstances?
He then was placed in an isolation cell, where he rammed his head into a wall and broke his neck.
Mentally ill man who broke neck in jail alleges in suit his rights were violated - latimes
In case you didn't know, breaking your neck during a slip and fall is even possible.
Who did what? Holy ****!They may have trouble proving who did what,
JFC! He injured himself.but there's no way this is just some mysterious innocent happening.
Nope.. because they need to be justified in the eyes of the LAW. They don't get carte blanch because they are the government to lay their hands on me.. or my family and which ultimately causes my or my families death.
And yes.. if I put my hands on someone that's not justified and as a consequence they died.. I would be charged with at least assault and probably battery if not manslaughter.
You know there's a problem when the judges goes, "WTF?".
If you are speaking of this case, you are ignorant of the facts.Thug cops killed another citizen unnecessarily. Nothing new.
What if it's a judge like this?
Judge faces charges for masturbating during trials - Houston Chronicle
A Baltimore judge on Monday questioned prosecutors’ theory that a police officer charged with murder in the death of Freddie Gray intentionally gave him a “rough ride” in a police van that caused the 25-year-old black man’s mortal injuries more than a year ago.
Prosecutors had used the phrase “rough ride” in their opening arguments of Officer Caesar Goodson’s trial earlier this month, but Deputy State’s Attorney Janice Bledsoe did not utter the term during closing arguments Monday.
Yet Judge Williams expressed skepticism about a surveillance video presented by prosecutors that showed Officer Goodson running a stop sign and making a wide turn before the van’s fourth stop. The judge said the van could have stopped at the sign beyond the view of the camera and noted that the van wasn’t traveling very fast.
Judge Williams said that Officer Goodson making a slow wide turn may have been safer for Gray than taking a turn sharply at a normal rate of speed.
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