Given the price of eggs, that's a pricey proposition. Perhaps your message is best suited to the farmers complaining about it.USAID is mostly "all bad" the abuses of funding NGO's and just plain foreign aid DEI based ,,I have no idea how much but it's billions
Yes the farmers payments are interrupted. they'll get it again when those programs are established under State Depy
You gotta break an egg to make an omlete
Yep. It's a false dichotomy, since I'm sure we can manage to provide aid and get the CIA agenda out of it, while also being more selective as to how aid is distributed and the amounts.Whose defending it?
It happened 16 years ago. It makes zero sense to tear down the entire thing because we all know that it will take years to build it back.
All because of Trump which has caused a huge realignment. It's now the left that's aligned with the Neocons, the CIA/FBI, the forever wars movement and the military industrial complex. Crazy times.I never thought I'd see the day when so-called liberals and leftists would staunchly defend obvious instances of illegally funded clandestine CIA ops. Crazy shit.
Republicans got the country into a post 9/11 mess and their solution to that mess is to rapidly tear the entire government apart and when Democrats object to the rapid dismantling of government because of the mess that Republicans caused it is now the Democrats fault.All because of Trump which has caused a huge realignment. It's now the left that's aligned with the Neocons, the CIA/FBI, the forever wars movement and the military industrial complex. Crazy times.
That is just insanity.
How hard is it to put into place a team of people to review funding going forward? If the funding doesn't align with the administration then affect change going forward. To tear the entire system down without a bit of warning and leave people stranded across the world with food rotting because there is no one to distribute it because of money that has already gone out the door is simply idiotic.
Actually, we want USAID destroyed because we know it's a front for CIA that's used to promote regime change, destabilize other counties & also funding the illegal immigrants coming into our country. It's an evil organization that uses humanitarian aid as a cover.In my opinion, a key element of MAGA's excitement to gut something is because they don't understand what it funds.
This is the problem with the framing of this.It's interesting how you're extremely concerned with the theoretical situation of food going to waste in the short term but seemingly have no concern whatsoever for endless waste and abuses of taxpayer dollars.
I wonder if partisanship has anything to do with that jarring contradiction....
Whose defending it?
It happened 16 years ago. It makes zero sense to tear down the entire thing because we all know that it will take years to build it back.
Where did I say it doesn't matter? What I said is that it happened 16 years ago so to use that as an excuse to dismantle the entire thing is really stupid.Plenty of people are defending the act of turning a blind eye to it, including yourself. What kind of excuse is, "But, but, but....it happened 16 years ago so it doesn't matter!"
Do we completely dismantle the military because of it? You see how silly that is?Abu Ghraib happened over 20 years ago. Does that no longer matter? How about Watergate? How about Japanese internment?
How so? If we want to affect change we can do so going forward. We can't change what has already happened. Completely destroying the entire department is not a rational way to do it.It's just terrible logic that doesn't hold up under even minimal scrutiny.
USAID was 1% of the federal budget. Sure... make a case for restructuring. Make a case for funding things that align with the adminstration. Make those cases. Imploding the entire thing overnight doesn't fix the past nor is it going to be effective in the future. It is going to take years to build it back up.Restructuring government isn't a bad thing, in spite of the fact that it will inevitably lead to transitional problems. Those who are attacking government restructuring, with all the obviously bloated bureaucracy, waste, crime, and abuse right in front of their noses, will never accept valid reasons for government restructuring. If not now, when the federal government has tens of trillions in debt and all that obvious waste, then when?
Simply doing something like rapidly tearing down the government is easy. Building things is hard. This group is not going to build anything back.Hyperpartisans are made because it's not their guy doing it. If it was their guy, they'd automatically get in line without asking any questions.
Some of us are glad someone is finally taking more direct action, flaws or not. This is a paradigm shift that's needed across both controlling parties.
This is the problem with the framing of this.
Any sort of criticism of Musk's rapid dismantling of the government is then framed as "Well why DO you like fraud waste and abuse?"
It isn't a discussion that is being held in good faith because it assumes that the rapid dismantling of the government is the only way to root out fraud waste and abuse.
I haven't made that ad hominem attack. I am having a discussion.Any sort of criticism of the rapid dismantling of wasteful aspects of government is also not paired with any rational discussion of the waste being targeted.
Or alternative solutions that those people feel would be better.
Instead, they just piss and moan and engage in ad hominem fallacies.
If they want to be more effective, perhaps they should make an effort at implementing rational strategies instead of just bitching and attacking without offering any alternative solutions.
If you're concerned about good-faith arguments, then take note of what I wrote above and start off on the right foot. Perhaps the response you receive at that point will be much different.
It turns out that, "Everyone I don't like in politics is a <insert ad hominem attack> and you're a <insert ad hominem attack> for defending their actions" is not the way to initiate a discussion if you want to be taken seriously.
Not really, no. If you pay attention to what the complaint is it's not about a "huge realignment", but rather the way the restructuring is being done.All because of Trump which has caused a huge realignment.
This is false as well, and betrays how over simplified some are trying to frame the opposing views.It's now the left that's aligned with the Neocons, the CIA/FBI, the forever wars movement and the military industrial complex. Crazy times.
I was talking about politically and not what's going on now with DOGE.Not really, no. If you pay attention to what the complaint is it's not about a "huge realignment", but rather the way the restructuring is being done.
It's absolutely true. The left is aligned with all those things the right used to be aligned with.This is false as well, and betrays how over simplified some are trying to frame the opposing views.
You can apply it to that as well, though there is no real realignment culturally. The only thing that's going to happen from that perspective is the sides getting further stuck in their positions.I was talking about politically and not what's going on now with DOGE.
It isn't. There has definitely been a shift in the demographics of both political parties, but between both political leans it's not as clear cut.It's absolutely true. The left is aligned with all those things the right used to be aligned with.
I don't know about clinical trials specifically, but malaria and HIV medications would appear to be except from the 90 day pause:Notice how quickly MAGAs want to divert away from the malaria drugs, HIV medications, etc that will not be distributed or the clinical trials that will be stopped to talk about conspiracy theories and hypotheticals.
You've already been given numerous examples. Why would doing that again be useful?Give examples
No, that will come from tariffs like last time. So American consumers will be footing the bill.Sweet! Are we paying out the farmers affected by this, and is that calculated against the "savings"?
Can't we just use the savings from all the cuts Elon's making? I heard he's up to $5 trillion in savings. At this pace, the US government can buy everyone in the country brand new BMW M3s.No, that will come from tariffs like last time. So American consumers will be footing the bill.
Well, sadly, those savings are all fiction, so tariffs it is!Can't we just use the savings from all the cuts Elon's making? I heard he's up to $5 trillion in savings. At this pace, the US government can buy everyone in the country brand new BMW M3s.
NO THEY'RE NOT!! Elon said they're real, so they're REAL!! Think of all those HAMAS fighters who now don't have condoms! WINNING!!Well, sadly, those savings are all fiction, so tariffs it is!
Actually, we want USAID destroyed because we know it's a front for CIA that's used to promote regime change, destabilize other counties & also funding the illegal immigrants coming into our country. It's an evil organization that uses humanitarian aid as a cover.
USAID is mostly "all bad" the abuses of funding NGO's and just plain foreign aid DEI based ,,I have no idea how much but it's billions
Yes the farmers payments are interrupted. they'll get it again when those programs are established under State Depy
You gotta break an egg to make an omlete
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