Joe Rogan explains why liberal media 'hemorrhaging' audiences: 'You're not accurate, you're delusional'

[Bok Tuklo]

Agreed.


But of course.

I'd further the obvious dishonesty in the MSM by pointing out this list of propaganda driven narratives they've in less than the last decade.

• 'The Steel dossier is real'?
• 'Hunter's laptop was Russia disinformation'?
• 'Inject bleach'?
• 'Joe's just fine'?
• 'Joe's on top of his game'?
• 'Russian Collusion'?
• 'Trump's a Russian asset'?
• The assassination attempt was staged.
• Trump was not actually injured by a bullet or at all.
• the “Muslim ban” that wasn’t?
• the mantra that the 2017 tax cuts were only for the “rich”
• the Ukraine impeachment of Trump, a creative fiction based on a complaint from an anonymous member of the swamp who never testified
• The Capitol Hill riot on Jan. 6 was an “armed insurrection”
• President Trump referred to Nazis and White supremacists as “very fine people.”
• President Trump “incited” the riot
• President Trump wanted to End NATO
• The border is secure
• Don't say gay laws
• Jim Crow 2.0
• Inflation is transitory
• Trump is a fascist
• Violent crime is falling

When each of these narratives, pushed by the Dem's MSM propagandists, fell, were proven false, the Dem's MSM propagandists destroyed their own credibility, as is shown in their falling trust and credibility polling results.

The Dem's MSM propagandists have destroyed themselves and rendered themselves irrelevant, the greatest irony being it was of their own violation, by their own actions and public statements. They have no one else to blame for their failing and irrelevant lot in life but themselves.

We are already seeing them whine about it, but this isn't demonstrating any insight or introspection, in fact, it is showing exactly the opposite.

 

[eohrnberger]

Your equivocation is an incorrect one.
You are equating the Dem's MSM propagandists using Pelosi's 'Wrap Up Smear' tactics instead of delivering vetted and accurate news, to a politician campaigning with hyperbole, exaggeration and political rhetoric. These expected from the politician, but unwelcome from supposedly self proclaimed 'news' sources.

What you've done here is to demonstrate your expectations and approval of the Dem's MSM propagandists campaigning for Democrats and the left. Well, in this you are correct, as that's all they've done since before 2016, as the previously posted list shows.

Specific to the 'Wrap Up Smear' tactic, I'll let Pelosi explain that in her own words in what amounts to her own confession.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Your equivocation is an incorrect one.
You are equating the Dem's MSM propagandists use Pelosi's 'Wrap Up Smear' tactics instead of vetted news to a politician campaigning.

What you've done is demonstrate the your expectation and approval of the Dem's MSM propagandists campaigning for Democrats and the left. Well, in this you are correct, as that's all they've done since before 2016.

Specific to the 'Wrap Up Smear' tactic, I'll let Pelosi explain that in her own words in her own confession.

No. I’m ridiculing your aggressive hypocrisy.

 

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Ratings does not equal quality. William Hung sold over 1 million albums. Jerry Springer was on the air for 20 years. That doesn't mean they were quality.

What’s your favorite part? Mine is when he calls them delusional.

 

[eohrnberger]

No. I’m ridiculing your aggressive hypocrisy.

Is anything what I posted not factual?
Are you claiming that the MSM didn't push those false narratives?
Are you claiming that you don't approve of the MSM pushing those false narratives?

 

[Dans La Lune]

And all this time I thought it was Fox News who was lying to me when it turns out it was MSNBC and CNN all along! (but... but... but... Joe Rogan believes in dragons and licks Trump's nutsack!)

'I was just reading something about CNN's ratings and MSNBC's ratings post-election - they've crashed,' The Joe Rogan Experience podcast host said.

Podcaster Joe Rogan dunked on left-wing media for losing viewers as many Americans have grown distrustful and wary of their bias.

Rogan spoke on his podcast about a recent op-ed from billionaire Amazon founder and Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos, headlined, "The hard truth: Americans don’t trust the news media."

He summarized the piece as "essentially saying that you have to take divergent viewpoints, you have to take a bunch of different perspectives, we can't just be this left-wing echo chamber, and it's the reason why the business is faltering."

click here to read... unless you are triggered by Fox News. If that's the case then here is your binky.

I guess that's why Rogan went from being a progressive to MAGA. There's money to be made.

 

[----------]

Rogan preaching about any network being accurate is laughable.
The guy is a disinformation machine.

Would you care to give examples of his “disinformation”?

 

[----------]

I guess that's why Rogan went from being a progressive to MAGA. There's money to be made.

I have a feeling he doesn’t need the money.

 

[----------]

Bill O'Reilly said it better, paraphrase - "Journalism is dead in America. It doesn't matter what party or ideology you support, it is dead on both sides. In all the years I have been in broadcasting, over 50 years, the way you produced news was this - You get a story, you have a large staff of journalist to first go out and vet the story. Is there more than one source? Get them on record telling what they know. Reach out to whoever the story is about, get their take. And then - most important, validate what everyone tells you. That is gone. No one does any of that now. All they do is hear a story - and go straight to air with it, then bring in commentary that is going to talk about it as if it is 100% true."

BOTH SIDES.

And yet Fox’s ratings are through the roof.

 

[Dans La Lune]

I have a feeling he doesn’t need the money.

Not anymore, since he went from being progressive to MAGA.

 

[----------]

I know you’re not suggesting a “girl” is a lesser opponent, right?

Maybe Andy Kaufman was feeling like a girl when he fought other girls. So what’s the problem here?

 

[----------]

Not anymore, since he went from being progressive to MAGA.

He had already made a small fortune before he backed Trump. Let’s not try to rewrite history. That’s MSNBC’s job.

 

[KingLeo]

Would you care to give examples of his “disinformation”?

Joe Rogan: Four claims from his Spotify podcast fact-checked

The US broadcaster has been criticised for helping spread misinformation.

www.bbc.com

Fact-Checking Joe Rogan’s Interview With Robert Malone That Caused an Uproar (Published 2022)

Mr. Rogan, a wildly popular podcast host, and his guest, Dr. Malone, a controversial infectious-disease researcher, offered a litany of falsehoods over three hours.

www.nytimes.com

Joe Rogan Is Fueling Climate Misinformation on TikTok, Watchdogs Warn - Inside Climate News

A clip of celebrity podcaster Joe Rogan touting a conspiracy theory that links global warming to Earth’s magnetic field has gone viral on TikTok, despite the platform’s new policy prohibiting climate misinformation, a new report warns. It’s the latest report to highlight how Big Tech companies...

insideclimatenews.org

It’s official: Joe Rogan’s brand of inane misinformation has taken over the UK

The controversial podcaster has topped the Spotify rankings for 2023 – both globally and in the UK, writes Louis Chilton. What does it say about Britain that Rogan has achieved such popularity here?

www.the-independent.com

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/27/politics/fact-check-trump-rogan-podcast/index.html

And those are only some.

 

[eohrnberger]

He had already made a small fortune before he backed Trump.

Let’s not try to rewrite history. That’s MSNBC’s job.

That MSNBC has been retconning (rewriting history to suit the far left extremists) has been noticed by, and disliked by, their non-extremist audience, which is why they are in a ratings free fall.

Ideally this would be MSNBC self-correcting, and this self-correction would also be adopted by the Dem's MSM propagandists, but we'll see, as the people who are running these organizations lack insight, introspection, connection with the real world and familiarity with non-extremists, being that they live and breathe in the liberal / progressive echo chamber, and have somehow come to the conclusion that this is all there is to reality and the real world.

 

[j brown's body]

And yet Fox’s ratings are through the roof.

A network whose internal memos expressed fear that reporting facts will enrage their viewers.

 

[j brown's body]

That MSNBC has been retconning (rewriting history to suit the far left extremists) has been noticed by, and disliked by, their non-extremist audience, which is why they are in a ratings free fall.

Ideally this would be MSNBC self-correcting, and this self-correction would also be adopted by the Dem's MSM propagandists, but we'll see, as the people who are running these organizations lack insight, introspection, connection with the real world and familiarity with non-extremists, being that they live and breathe in the liberal / progressive echo chamber, and have somehow come to the conclusion that this is all there is to reality and the real world.

So the logical solution to this is to follow a guy who thinks blacks have different brains than white people.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Bill O'Reilly said it better, paraphrase - "Journalism is dead in America. It doesn't matter what party or ideology you support, it is dead on both sides. In all the years I have been in broadcasting, over 50 years, the way you produced news was this - You get a story, you have a large staff of journalist to first go out and vet the story. Is there more than one source? Get them on record telling what they know. Reach out to whoever the story is about, get their take. And then - most important, validate what everyone tells you. That is gone. No one does any of that now. All they do is hear a story - and go straight to air with it, then bring in commentary that is going to talk about it as if it is 100% true."

BOTH SIDES.

It's the same point I've been making about the bifurcation of news media. The question is what changes this, because the divisions that exist within people still drive the demand for echo chambers, and we see that manifested in new environments like streaming and podcasts as well. Ultimately whatever is created is a reaction to what people want, and in part the demand creators can influence. The main problem now is the profit model still supports echo chambers.

 

[Kelby]

Joe Rogan listeners are looking for dude-bro entertainment dressed up as news/information.

 

[Parker_Chess]

Joe Rogan is another grifter charlatan. He supported Bernie back in 2020 and there's hours of video footage where he says the most progressive and lefty things imaginable.

I used to be a Joe Rogan fan in the early days. But post Spotify deal and his grift to the right I can't watch him anymore.

 

[Fiddytree]

People can say they distrust the press all they want, but they don’t know why they distrust the press. The press has plenty of problems, including with judgment calls and an exaggerated sense of self.

Nevertheless, people want entertainment and they are lazy.

That’s why alternative media is rising.

That’s also why I’m less than interested in catering to the lowest common denominator by feeding the Joe Rogans of the world.

 

[Fiddytree]

A network whose internal memos expressed fear that reporting facts will enrage their viewers.

Feeding the plebs dope makes them dope fiends. Who knew!?

 

[Helix]

I wonder if even more listeners will decide that they don't agree with his politics.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

Would you care to give examples of his “disinformation”?

6 times Joe Rogan promoted COVID-19 misinformation on his podcast

Doctors are imploring Spotify to crack down on misinformation after Rogan's podcast featured a controversial interview with Dr. Robert Malone.

www.businessinsider.com

Joe Rogan’s Show May Be Dumb. But Is It Actually Deadly?

Nothing seems to move the needle on Americans’ vaccine convictions, no matter how beneficial or harmful.

www.theatlantic.com

How society should deal with misinformation on Spotify

The popular audio streaming service Spotify has come under fire for hosting the podcaster Joe Rogan, who’s spread COVID misinformation to millions. After two high-profile musicians took their music off Spotify in protest, the platform has announced reforms. William Brangham reports.

www.google.com

These experts say Joe Rogan is ‘extraordinarily dangerous’ to society – here’s why

The 54-year-old podcast host has unique influence, scientists and physicians tell Andrew Buncombe

www.google.com

Joe Rogan Apologizes For Spreading Misinformation

With a large platform, comes great responsibility.

www.google.com

 

[iamwhatiseem]

And yet Fox’s ratings are through the roof.

Because most of America are not woke-hive minded lunatics

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Joe Rogan listeners are looking for dude-bro entertainment dressed up as news/information.

Completely false.
The value of Rogan is the 3 hours. You can't hide for 3 hours, which is why Kamala didn't do it. She is an empty pants suit. She has no personality.
With three hours of discussion, there is going to be some good information. And this is what podcast are for.
No one watches the whole podcast. No one. They watch the clips that are created from them.
As well as when you sit in a comfortable one on one discussion - you can't hide yourself. The YOU, whatever you are, is going to come out.
And again, why Kamala wouldn't do it.