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Joe is Giving Orders Again

VySky said:
Next week Beijing Joey is going to announce a new virus goal. Whoooopie. I wonder if it’s finding a way to get the 50% of healthcare workers refusing the vaccine to comply?
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Their employers have a very easy way to get them to comply.
 
VySky said:
Something in engineering we call acceptable risk.
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There are no "acceptable risks" in engineering. There are "unavoidable risks".
 
VySky said:
Who said that was all going to happen after taking the vaccine?
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As I said 95 percent is highly effective.

We eradicated small pox with vaccinations.
2 does of MMR is 97 percent effective.Wild polio is eradicated and only a few other strain of polio are in remote areas of world. So remote we dearly hear of a case in 10 more ears.
Compare that mumps...2 doses of the MMR is 88 percent effective against.When was last time you heard of someone having the mumps in the US ?

As I said the there are so many strains of seasonal flu...that is why the flu shot is only about 40 percent effective any given years. Scientists have to guess which flu will prevalent in a given year.


Once enough of us are vaccinated against Covid 19 , we will reach herd immunity that is our way back to normal.
 
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VySky said:
take the vaccine.

No thanks
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Remember how Oathkeepers were part of the DC riot? Well, that oath includes the line "... and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States ...".

That means all Othkeepers should be lining up to get a vaccine now, right? Or are the Oathkeepers not keeping their oath?
 
mike2810 said:
What is your objection to the vaccine?
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That it doesn't have at least a year's worth of trials behind it. Not that it had the chance to, but I'll wait until we know the full scope of risks.
 
BlueTex said:
Their employers have a very easy way to get them to comply.
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Not for emergency use vaccines, no. It has to finish trials and be fully approved. That's why the military can't even require soldiers to take it.
 
VySky said:
Something in engineering we call acceptable risk.
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Please don't talk about things you have no idea about. In no engineering field would 550,000 dead Americans be an "acceptable risk". That was a truly vile and disgusting statement, as is most of what you say.

Juks said:
There are no "acceptable risks" in engineering. There are "unavoidable risks".
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Wayne Jr said:
That it doesn't have at least a year's worth of trials behind it. Not that it had the chance to, but I'll wait until we know the full scope of risks.
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I thought you had signed up for vaccine trials months ago.
You started a thread about it.

Be a covid vaccine guinea pig

I just signed up: Obvio-19 You should, too.
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Wayne Jr said:
Not for emergency use vaccines, no. It has to finish trials and be fully approved. That's why the military can't even require soldiers to take it.
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As an employer, I can make any conditions I damn well please including emergency use vaccines
 
minnie616 said:
As I said 95 percent is highly effective.

We eradicated small pox with vaccinations.
2 does of MMR is 97 percent effective.Wild polio is eradicated and only a few other strain of polio are in remote areas of world. So remote we dearly hear of a case in 10 more ears.
Compare that mumps...2 doses of the MMR is 88 percent effective against.When was last time you heard of someone having the mumps in the US ?

As I said the there are so many strains of seasonal flu...that is why the flu shot is only about 40 percent effective any given years. Scientists have to guess which flu will prevalent in a given year.


Once enough of us are vaccinated against Covid 19 , we will reach herd immunity that is our way back to normal.
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So you can’t answer my question then? The assertion made lacks evidence
 
Wayne Jr said:
Remember how Oathkeepers were part of the DC riot? Well, that oath includes the line "... and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States ...".

That means all Othkeepers should be lining up to get a vaccine now, right? Or are the Oathkeepers not keeping their oath?
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Why don’t you ask them?
 
VySky said:
Um, no.
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If that is your attitude I would never have you working in my team. Suggests I need to talk to my technicians about their attitudes in this matter a little more thoroughly. Just in case...

And I will from now on make it clear when working with americans that in Sweden there is no such thing as "acceptable risks". Seems founded
 
minnie616 said:
I thought you had signed up for vaccine trials months ago.
You started a thread about it.

Be a covid vaccine guinea pig

I just signed up: Obvio-19 You should, too.
debatepolitics.com debatepolitics.com
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If you had followed the link in that thread you would see that it was a mobil tracking study. Noone was injected with anything.
 
Juks said:
If that is your attitude I would never have you working in my team. Suggests I need to talk to my technicians about their attitudes in this matter a little more thoroughly. Just in case...

And I will from now on make it clear when working with americans that in Sweden there is no such thing as "acceptable risks". Seems founded
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Everyday we make decisions based on our level of risk acceptance. Covid is no different. Even a new student could conduct a CBA and the answer for many will be, it’s an acceptable risk.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Please don't talk about things you have no idea about. In no engineering field would 550,000 dead Americans be an "acceptable risk". That was a truly vile and disgusting statement, as is most of what you say.


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Around 250,000 people die from preventable medical mistakes every year and no one ever does anything about it. Why should we care about covid's 2-year equivalent death total when we didn't care about preventable medical mistakes for the last 2 years or even 20 years?
 
Peter said:
Have fun not being able to travel overseas or get most jobs as they'll require a vaccine passport.
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Why would we travel overseas in the first place?
 
VySky said:
Everyday we make decisions based on our level of risk acceptance. Covid is no different. Even a new student could conduct a CBA and the answer for many will be, it’s an acceptable risk.
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Don't talk about engineering when you know nothing about it. Pitiful
 
Peter said:
Have fun not being able to travel overseas or get most jobs as they'll require a vaccine passport.
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That may be true but such actions are not warranted based on the data we’re seeing. Also there is no guarantee the vaccine offers any additional freedoms in return from which we surrendered
 
re: Unavoidable risk terminology is flawed. I can mitigate all risk by canceling my project. However, since nothing would ever get done we ........, ‘accept’ the level of risk present and proceed accordingly
 
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