Joe Biden says he would require Americans to wear masks in public (1 Viewer)

[JacksinPA]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...430db8-b75d-11ea-a8da-693df3d7674a_story.html

Joe Biden said on Thursday that if he were president, he would mandate that every American wear a mask in public to combat the spread of the coronavirus.

In an interview with KDKA, the CBS affiliate in Pittsburgh, the presumptive Democratic nominee said he would attempt to leverage federal power to mandate mask wearing.

“The one thing we do know is these masks make a gigantic difference,” he said. “I would insist that everybody out in public be wearing that mask. Anyone to reopen would have to make sure that they walked into a business that had masks.”

When asked whether that meant using executive actions to try to require such actions, Biden said he would use the power of the office.

“Yes, I would,” he said. “From an executive standpoint, yes, I would.”

Asked if that meant he would be effectively mandating that all Americans wear a mask, he responded by saying, “I would do everything possible to make it required that people had to wear masks in public.”

These comments highlight another major difference between Biden and President Trump, who has refused to wear a mask himself and has often downplayed the importance of doing so. During the interview, Biden was standing eight feet from the reporter, and he had his mask on.

Biden said he has a hard time imagining himself being sworn in as president in a mask, but he said the crowd on the Capitol steps might be more spread out.

Biden said he would probably accept the Democratic nomination in August to an empty room.

“I can’t say for sure, but it’s probable that will be the case,” he said.

Biden said he can’t imagine having large indoor rallies like the one Trump had in Tulsa over the weekend. He also said it seemed unlikely that he would return to doing any rallies anytime soon.

“If the virus were under control and moved and we had like we’ve talked about a vaccine, and we had ways in which to make sure this was not being transmitted, then yes,” he said. “But I don’t see that happening.”

The remarks came during a day in which Biden held an event in Lancaster, Pa., where he talked about the Affordable Care Act and ridiculed Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

“The president is bizarre,” Biden said in a separate interview with WGAL, the NBC affiliate in Lancaster. “We left behind a pandemic office. We warned them about — as early as January, the middle of January, I was saying a pandemic is coming. We should be prepared.”
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A lot of the 'anti-mask' people aren't going to e happy about this, but when they are in the ICU they will have time to reflect on their decision not to wear a mask as being their 'right.'

Masks were first used during the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic which was much more severe than COVID-19 with great success. Masks have been routinely worn in Japan & other Asian countries for decades. And masks are mandatory in hospital settings.

 

[Jetboogieman]

On one hand, is there some truth to the idea the state doesn’t have the authority To require Masks by force of law?

And on the other side, the assholes who refuse to wear one because I’m Murcan, or its effeminate Are truly pathetic and I bet they’re the kind of people that laud the greatest generation, that had to sacrifice and endure hardship, lost many lives and had to ration at home etc.

That look down on millennials that they see as weak kneed and unable to endure hardship.

Yet many of these same people can’t put a piece of cloth on their face to protect others.

**** em, seriously,

 

[JacksinPA]

On one hand, is there some truth to the idea the state doesn’t have the authority To require Masks by force of law?

And on the other side, the assholes who refuse to wear one because I’m Murcan, or its effeminate Are truly pathetic and I bet they’re the kind of people that laud the greatest generation, that had to sacrifice and endure hardship, lost many lives and had to ration at home etc.

That look down on millennials that they see as weak kneed and unable to endure hardship.

Yet many of these same people can’t put a piece of cloth on their face to protect others.

**** em, seriously,

The courts may ultimately decide this question as there will likely be many lawsuits. But this comes under the category of a public health emergency. Do you have the right or option to kill your neighbors by not wearing a mask in public? Do you have the right to overload the hospitals so that people will be dying on park benches instead of ICUs?

 

[Ikari]

On one hand, is there some truth to the idea the state doesn’t have the authority To require Masks by force of law?

And on the other side, the assholes who refuse to wear one because I’m Murcan, or its effeminate Are truly pathetic and I bet they’re the kind of people that laud the greatest generation, that had to sacrifice and endure hardship, lost many lives and had to ration at home etc.

That look down on millennials that they see as weak kneed and unable to endure hardship.

Yet many of these same people can’t put a piece of cloth on their face to protect others.

**** em, seriously,

Some folk are really trying to equate wearing a mask during a global pandemic to some rise in fascism but then see no issue with police killing people and call for protesters to be shot. It's quite remarkable. But one thing I find interesting is that there now has been sufficient data to show Covid spread against the percent of a population wearing masks and it really does seem that wearing a mask does help reduce the spread of covid, as has been stated repeatedly for quite some time now.

The Northeast leads the country in mask wearing - CNNPolitics

 

[Rogue Valley]

The courts may ultimately decide this question as there will likely be many lawsuits. But this comes under the category of a public health emergency. Do you have the right or option to kill your neighbors by not wearing a mask in public? Do you have the right to overload the hospitals so that people will be dying on park benches instead of ICUs?

Although I wish everyone would wear a mask until further notice, there would be little means of enforcing a mask edict.

 

[swing_voter]

As president, he could make anyone entering a federal building wear a mask.

I don't think a president can do more than that. The constitution gives power for such things to the states.

 

[chuckiechan]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...430db8-b75d-11ea-a8da-693df3d7674a_story.html

Joe Biden said on Thursday that if he were president, he would mandate that every American wear a mask in public to combat the spread of the coronavirus.

[Machete swing]

What else is he going to force you to do?

 

[CaughtInThe]

older republicans are literally killing older republicans (and others too).



that's the part that doesn't make sense to me. why would any older human do that?

 

[JacksinPA]

Although I wish everyone would wear a mask until further notice, there would be little means of enforcing a mask edict.

Getting arrested & thrown in jail after getting booked should be an inducement not to avoid wearing a mask.

There is a long history of the police cooperating in public health emergencies. Trucks with loudspeakers making quarantine announcements come to mind.

 

[JacksinPA]

As president, he could make anyone entering a federal building wear a mask.

I don't think a president can do more than that. The constitution gives power for such things to the states.

It would be through the state governors. They should all be sensitive to the effect of mask wearing orders on their reelection possibilities.

 

[Thoreau72]

Of course Uncle Joe never offered any constitutional authority for his proposal, and the WaPo never thought to ask.

It's like Nixon/Trump--if POTUS says jump, it must be legal.

Just as the government has no lawful authority to tell citizens what they may ingest into their bodies, it has no authority to tell them what they must wear.

The government's own numbers do not support the claim that Covid is a public emergency. It is a politically manufactured event, nothing more.

 

[JacksinPA]

Of course Uncle Joe never offered any constitutional authority for his proposal, and the WaPo never thought to ask.

It's like Nixon/Trump--if POTUS says jump, it must be legal.

Just as the government has no lawful authority to tell citizens what they may ingest into their bodies, it has no authority to tell them what they must wear.

The government's own numbers do not support the claim that Covid is a public emergency. It is a politically manufactured event, nothing more.

In the darkest days of COVID in NYC, the video of mass graves being dug & rows of refrigerated 18-foot trailers stuffed with sheet-wrapped corpses told me that the largest city in the country faced a true public health emergency.

 

[Thoreau72]

In the darkest days of COVID in NYC, the video of mass graves being dug & rows of refrigerated 18-foot trailers stuffed with sheet-wrapped corpses told me that the largest city in the country faced a true public health emergency.

Yes, most deaths were in nursing homes.

Old people dying is hardly a public health emergency.

 

[JacksinPA]

older republicans are literally killing older republicans (and others too).



that's the part that doesn't make sense to me. why would any older human do that?

I think that defines true selfishness.

 

[Gaius46]

I don’t believe any President has the authority to mandate wearing a mask - dealing with healthcare crisis’ is generally considered part of police powers and are reserved to the states under the 10th amendment.

That said the federal government has a large role to play in managing any pandemic from coordinating state responses, to making resources available, to making accurate information available, to using the bully pulpit to convince governors who are acting stupidly to do the right thing, to just leading by example and wearing a ****ing mask.

Any President can and should do all of those things.

 

[JacksinPA]

Yes, most deaths were in nursing homes.

Old people dying is hardly a public health emergency.

Most of the deaths shown on TV were from major hospitals in NYC. I'm sure the nursing homes were in there too. Funeral homes were overloaded.

 

[JacksinPA]

I don’t believe any President has the authority to mandate wearing a mask - dealing with healthcare crisis’ is generally considered part of police powers and are reserved to the states under the 10th amendment.

That said the federal government has a large role to play in managing any pandemic from coordinating state responses, to making resources available, to making accurate information available, to using the bully pulpit to convince governors who are acting stupidly to do the right thing, to just leading by example and wearing a ****ing mask.

Any President can and should do all of those things.

But depending on state public safety laws, governors have that power. It was just invoked in CA & NC. In urban areas in NC the local county governments instituted the mask orders.

 

[Gaius46]

But depending on state public safety laws, governors have that power. It was just invoked in CA & NC. In urban areas in NC the local county governments instituted the mask orders.

Yes absolutely. It’s a state power. I’d guess most states give governors pretty broad power to enact regulations like that to deal with and emergency without needing a specific law passed.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...430db8-b75d-11ea-a8da-693df3d7674a_story.html

Joe Biden said on Thursday that if he were president, he would mandate that every American wear a mask in public to combat the spread of the coronavirus.

In an interview with KDKA, the CBS affiliate in Pittsburgh, the presumptive Democratic nominee said he would attempt to leverage federal power to mandate mask wearing.

“The one thing we do know is these masks make a gigantic difference,” he said. “I would insist that everybody out in public be wearing that mask. Anyone to reopen would have to make sure that they walked into a business that had masks.”

When asked whether that meant using executive actions to try to require such actions, Biden said he would use the power of the office.

“Yes, I would,” he said. “From an executive standpoint, yes, I would.”

Asked if that meant he would be effectively mandating that all Americans wear a mask, he responded by saying, “I would do everything possible to make it required that people had to wear masks in public.”

These comments highlight another major difference between Biden and President Trump, who has refused to wear a mask himself and has often downplayed the importance of doing so. During the interview, Biden was standing eight feet from the reporter, and he had his mask on.

Biden said he has a hard time imagining himself being sworn in as president in a mask, but he said the crowd on the Capitol steps might be more spread out.

Biden said he would probably accept the Democratic nomination in August to an empty room.

“I can’t say for sure, but it’s probable that will be the case,” he said.

Biden said he can’t imagine having large indoor rallies like the one Trump had in Tulsa over the weekend. He also said it seemed unlikely that he would return to doing any rallies anytime soon.

“If the virus were under control and moved and we had like we’ve talked about a vaccine, and we had ways in which to make sure this was not being transmitted, then yes,” he said. “But I don’t see that happening.”

The remarks came during a day in which Biden held an event in Lancaster, Pa., where he talked about the Affordable Care Act and ridiculed Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

“The president is bizarre,” Biden said in a separate interview with WGAL, the NBC affiliate in Lancaster. “We left behind a pandemic office. We warned them about — as early as January, the middle of January, I was saying a pandemic is coming. We should be prepared.”
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A lot of the 'anti-mask' people aren't going to e happy about this, but when they are in the ICU they will have time to reflect on their decision not to wear a mask as being their 'right.'

Masks were first used during the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic which was much more severe than COVID-19 with great success. Masks have been routinely worn in Japan & other Asian countries for decades. And masks are mandatory in hospital settings.

Screw the whining anti-mask idiots, they're listening to their new Dimwit in Chief. If I'm near people indoors or outdoors, I have a mask on, very little to ask to avoid spreading the virus to other if I have it and have no symptoms. Only selfish inbreds throw a hissy fit when they are asked to do anything they don't like. Not as easy to shove cheeseburgers and cheap beer down your piehole with a mask on I guess. :roll:

 

[gboisjo]

And on the other side, the assholes who refuse to wear one because I’m Murcan, or its effeminate Are truly pathetic and I bet they’re the kind of people that laud the greatest generation, that had to sacrifice and endure hardship, lost many lives and had to ration at home etc.

150,000 dead by July at the rate were going and we have people who won't wear face mask. I would like nothing more than to see Trump in a hospital on a respirator.

The argument in itself speaks volumes about the selfish, dare devil character of the ugly American.

 

[gboisjo]

The government's own numbers do not support the claim that Covid is a public emergency. It is a politically manufactured event, nothing more.

What a crock of do do.

On 30 January 2020, the Director-General of the World Health Organization (WHO) declared the outbreak of COVID-19 to be a Public Health Emergency of International Concern and issued a set of Temporary Recommendations.

So in turn, Trump said (WHO) didn't know what they were talking about, listen to me instead.

We are being led by a dim witted clown.

 

[grip]

Biden as POTUS wouldn't have the authority to enforce a national mask wearing mandate. My area was in almost full compliance 2 weeks ago before the Media switched its coverage from covid to the protests.

 

[JacksinPA]

Biden as POTUS wouldn't have the authority to enforce a national mask wearing mandate. My area was in almost full compliance 2 weeks ago before the Media switched its coverage from covid to the protests.

But the governors & county health officers do. Check oiut my recent posts on CA & NC.

 

[grip]

But the governors & county health officers do. Check oiut my recent posts on CA & NC.

There's no way the gov's and ch officers have the sheer personnel to effectively enforce a mask law. They can threaten the public but it may backfire, especially where I live.

 

[The AntiDonald]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...430db8-b75d-11ea-a8da-693df3d7674a_story.html

Joe Biden said on Thursday that if he were president, he would mandate that every American wear a mask in public to combat the spread of the coronavirus.

In an interview with KDKA, the CBS affiliate in Pittsburgh, the presumptive Democratic nominee said he would attempt to leverage federal power to mandate mask wearing.

“The one thing we do know is these masks make a gigantic difference,” he said. “I would insist that everybody out in public be wearing that mask. Anyone to reopen would have to make sure that they walked into a business that had masks.”

When asked whether that meant using executive actions to try to require such actions, Biden said he would use the power of the office.

“Yes, I would,” he said. “From an executive standpoint, yes, I would.”

Asked if that meant he would be effectively mandating that all Americans wear a mask, he responded by saying, “I would do everything possible to make it required that people had to wear masks in public.”

These comments highlight another major difference between Biden and President Trump, who has refused to wear a mask himself and has often downplayed the importance of doing so. During the interview, Biden was standing eight feet from the reporter, and he had his mask on.

Biden said he has a hard time imagining himself being sworn in as president in a mask, but he said the crowd on the Capitol steps might be more spread out.

Biden said he would probably accept the Democratic nomination in August to an empty room.

“I can’t say for sure, but it’s probable that will be the case,” he said.

Biden said he can’t imagine having large indoor rallies like the one Trump had in Tulsa over the weekend. He also said it seemed unlikely that he would return to doing any rallies anytime soon.

“If the virus were under control and moved and we had like we’ve talked about a vaccine, and we had ways in which to make sure this was not being transmitted, then yes,” he said. “But I don’t see that happening.”

The remarks came during a day in which Biden held an event in Lancaster, Pa., where he talked about the Affordable Care Act and ridiculed Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

“The president is bizarre,” Biden said in a separate interview with WGAL, the NBC affiliate in Lancaster. “We left behind a pandemic office. We warned them about — as early as January, the middle of January, I was saying a pandemic is coming. We should be prepared.”
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A lot of the 'anti-mask' people aren't going to e happy about this, but when they are in the ICU they will have time to reflect on their decision not to wear a mask as being their 'right.'

Masks were first used during the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic which was much more severe than COVID-19 with great success. Masks have been routinely worn in Japan & other Asian countries for decades. And masks are mandatory in hospital settings.

I see no problem with it. The republican mayor of Miami just made them mandatory. With escalating fines and eventual court appearance.

What Biden plans to do is what Trump should have done back in March. Look at where we are now.