Jimmy Kimmel Asked to Apologize and Pay Charlie Kirk's Family if He Wants Suspension Lifted

[What if...?]

He lost his spine a long time ago. He has been flopping for years. This was just the excuse they needed to give him the boot. Maybe the View will hire him. He would fit in just fine on their bias show.

It’s a show about bias?

Or a biased show?

I don’t watch it but the former sounds really boring.

 

[Jagged]

So, he said this on Sept 15. The murder was on Sept 10. It was well established that the kid was far left leaning trans by then within a moderate Republican family. Dunno if MAGA, likely as they are Republican.

Why would he portray that the right is trying to distance from him? Clearly they don't need to.

He's not trans. And Kimmel didn't portray him as right. He portayed the right as desperately trying to characterize the killer as anything but maga. Maybe you should read more before posting?

 

[Schweddy]

No, he said the shooter was MAGA. That is not illegal.

Either what you claim or what I claim, you're right, it's not illegal but it IS against FCC Hoax regulations over a broadcast.

It wasn't factually incorrect and the FCC had no right to involve themselves. They violated the 1st Amendment, and it will cost them.

Hate to break it to you, but the FCC is god when it comes to media. But, they didn't violate the 1st amendment. Carr just said his opinion out loud with no legal action.

Nexstar Media Group acted independently but some claim coercion and some claim blackmail behind the scenes. After reading more on it, either of those might very well be true.
They also might have been scared of losing another law suit from Trump.

Finally, there are also reports that some independently ran stations were calling to boycott Kimmel as local advertisers where pulling ads in bulk the night it aired.

So basically, politics and capitalism as usual.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Either what you claim or what I claim, you're right, it's not illegal but it IS against FCC Hoax regulations over a broadcast.

No, it's not.

A hoax would be if I faked a report about aliens invading the earth and played off as real. That would be hoax. Kimmel having and opinion IS NOT a hoax.

Hate to break it to you, but the FCC is god when it comes to media. But, they didn't violate the 1st amendment. Carr just said his opinion out loud with no legal action.

Not anymore.

They DID violate the 1st Amendment.

Carr acted illegally and in violation of the 1st amendment. He used his position to censor Kimmel and Trump's request. He WILL burn for it.

Nexstar Media Group acted independently but some claim coercion and some claim blackmail behind the scenes. After reading more on it, either of those might very well be true.

This is true, but it will cost them money as their advertisers are going to stop advertising on their stations.

They also might have been scared of losing another law suit from Trump.

This is probably true. This WILL NOT stop the backlash they are going to face.

Finally, there are also reports that some independently ran stations were calling to boycott Kimmel as local advertisers where pulling ads in bulk the night it aired.

There is no evidence of this. It wouldn't surprise me if some red state MAGA scum did this.

So basically, politics and capitalism as usual.

At this point, most of these affiliate stations are going to lose money because of the actions of some scum from a red state. When they close their doors, they will have earned it.

 

[Schweddy]

A hoax would be if I faked a report about aliens invading the earth and played off as real. That would be hoax. Kimmel having and opinion IS NOT a hoax.

sigh...

47 CFR § 73.1217 - Broadcast hoaxes.

www.law.cornell.edu

§ 73.1217 Broadcast hoaxes.
(a) No licensee or permittee of any broadcast station shall broadcast false information concerning a crime or a catastrophe if:

(1) The licensee knows this information is false;

(2) It is foreseeable that broadcast of the information will cause substantial public harm, and

(3) Broadcast of the information does in fact directly cause substantial public harm.

They DID violate the 1st Amendment.

You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. -PB

Carr acted illegally and in violation of the 1st amendment. He used his position to censor Kimmel and Trump's request. He WILL burn for it.

FCC did nothing illegal. The media company pulled the plug, blame Disney.

If they did, the ACLU would be all over it. So far, crickets that I am aware of.

This is true, but it will cost them money as their advertisers are going to stop advertising on their stations.

Interesting. My guess is that the opposite affect would happen. Here is why, the ones pulling the ads were small local town advertisers.
You know, where MAGA Republicans normally live?

This is probably true. This WILL NOT stop the backlash they are going to face.

There will be no "backlash" beyond a few slanted news stories like we have seen.
Kimmel will probably start a podcast. There is that...

At this point, most of these affiliate stations are going to lose money because of the actions of some scum from a red state. When they close their doors, they will have earned it.

They are closing doors anyway due to technology shifting and streaming.

 

[Lursa]

What say you all. Will Kimmel meet Sinclair's demands? Should he?



Sinclair wants Kimmel to...

Jimmy Kimmel Asked to Apologize and Pay Charlie Kirk's Family if He Wants Suspension Lifted by Nation's Largest ABC Affiliate

Jimmy Kimmel has been given a list of demands for 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' to return to air by Sinclair, the broadcasting company with the nation's largest ABC affiliate group, after the show was pulled indefinitely for Kimmel's comments on Charlie Kirk.

people.com

IMO, with those demands, they dont want him to comply.

 

[Lursa]

He's not trans. And Kimmel didn't portray him as right. He portayed the right as desperately trying to characterize the killer as anything but maga. Maybe you should read more before posting?

If it's about making false claims, there's no way that Fox News should be on the air. Not for years. They were sued for it and lost, in one example.

And TACO has been intimidating/suing the crap out of left-leaning media outlets for months. See: 60 Minutes suit, excluding AP, etc. So...are we now seeing selective threats of "consequences" from the federal govt against exercising the 1st A?

 

[Allan]

IMO, with those demands, they dont want him to comply.

Good point.

 

[uptower]

 

[Jagged]

sigh...

47 CFR § 73.1217 - Broadcast hoaxes.

www.law.cornell.edu

You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. -PB


FCC did nothing illegal. The media company pulled the plug, blame Disney.

If they did, the ACLU would be all over it. So far, crickets that I am aware of.


Interesting. My guess is that the opposite affect would happen. Here is why, the ones pulling the ads were small local town advertisers.
You know, where MAGA Republicans normally live?


There will be no "backlash" beyond a few slanted news stories like we have seen.
Kimmel will probably start a podcast. There is that...


They are closing doors anyway due to technology shifting and streaming.

Since Kimmel didn't lie, 47 CFR § 73.1217 doesn't apply.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

sigh...

47 CFR § 73.1217 - Broadcast hoaxes.

www.law.cornell.edu

You seem to not understand that there was no hoax. Kimmel had an opinion. That is protected by the 1st Amendment. His opinion did not do any harm to the public. He is entitled to his opinion.

The Commission's prohibition against the broadcast of hoaxes is set forth at Section 73.1217 of the Commission's rules, 47 C.F.R. § 73.1217.
This rule prohibits broadcast licensees or permittees from broadcasting false information concerning a crime or a catastrophe if:

1. the licensee knows this information is false; <--- KIMMEL IS NOT A LICENSEE
2. it is foreseeable that broadcast of the information will cause substantial public harm; and <--- NO PUBLIC HARM OCCURRED BECAUSE OF KIMMEL'S OPINION.
3. broadcast of the information does in fact directly cause substantial public harm. <---- NO PUBLIC HARM OCCURRED.

In other words, NOTHING KIMMEL DID CONSTITUTES A HOAX.

Turn the Faux off. They lied to you.

You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. -PB


FCC did nothing illegal. The media company pulled the plug, blame Disney.

Yes, they did. The FCC put pressure on ABC's affiliates in an attempt to stifle an opinion dumpletits didn't like. That is a first amendment violation,

If they did, the ACLU would be all over it. So far, crickets that I am aware of.

They did. Just wait for it.

Interesting. My guess is that the opposite affect would happen. Here is why, the ones pulling the ads were small local town advertisers.
You know, where MAGA Republicans normally live?

Pulling the ads breaks the ABC affiliates.

There will be no "backlash" beyond a few slanted news stories like we have seen.
Kimmel will probably start a podcast. There is that...

WRONG.

They are closing doors anyway due to technology shifting and streaming.

Defending despicable people isn't very nice.

 

[noonereal]

What say you all. Will Kimmel meet Sinclair's demands? Should he?



Sinclair wants Kimmel to...

Jimmy Kimmel Asked to Apologize and Pay Charlie Kirk's Family if He Wants Suspension Lifted by Nation's Largest ABC Affiliate

Jimmy Kimmel has been given a list of demands for 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' to return to air by Sinclair, the broadcasting company with the nation's largest ABC affiliate group, after the show was pulled indefinitely for Kimmel's comments on Charlie Kirk.

people.com

Insanity. He said nothing wrong.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Insanity. He said nothing wrong.

Sinclair needs to be forced into bankruptcy.

 

[element94]

Oh, a never Trumper that is lost in the weeds. It's going to happen regardless if you worry about it or not.

Expand your horizons and research real conspiracies. They are much more interesting and flexible.

You didn't answer my question tho, what are your thoughts on Kimmel?

Yes, never Trumper more than a duped criminal enabler like you.
As for Kimmel, freedom of speech covers it. You support a whiney little man that can't seem to figure out what every other president did about free speech. I'm disappointed in you.

 

[Schweddy]

Yes, never Trumper more than a duped criminal enabler like you.

I didn't vote for Trump and have never voted for Trump. I'm also not MAGA. You could call me MAHA though.

I don't discount gov ideas based on party.

As for Kimmel, freedom of speech covers it. You support a whiney little man that can't seem to figure out what every other president did about free speech. I'm disappointed in you.

Actually, we now know that capitalism covered it. FCC chairman Carr just said something in passing.

Go figure.

 

[element94]

I didn't vote for Trump and have never voted for Trump. I'm also not MAGA. You could call me MAHA though.

I don't discount gov ideas based on party.


Actually, we now know that capitalism covered it. FCC chairman Carr just said something in passing.

Go figure.

Glad to hear all that, but I'm still confused by your slant.
The Kimmel thing is a matter of free speech, and a narcissistic small president that can't handle it.

 

[Allan]

I didn't vote for Trump and have never voted for Trump

Trump too far left for ya?

 

[Schweddy]

The Kimmel thing is a matter of free speech, and a narcissistic small president that can't handle it.

It's not. No matter what your news tells you, Capitalism took him out. There will be no law suites.

Also, the Kirk "thing" is WAY bigger than the president. It's global. I know I'm not going to convince you.
You'll have to see it for yourself and even then you won't acknowledge because everything seen is apparently through the lens of Trump.

You give our president too much credit. It really is a form of TDS.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Either what you claim or what I claim, you're right, it's not illegal but it IS against FCC Hoax regulations over a broadcast.

What he said wasn't a "hoax" either.

Hate to break it to you, but the FCC is god when it comes to media. But, they didn't violate the 1st amendment. Carr just said his opinion out loud with no legal action.

It is not. Its purview is broadcast media which is radio and television. This leaves studio and streaming content that is not under their purview, and the latter specifically is the growing media format while broadcast is on the decline.

Nexstar Media Group acted independently but some claim coercion and some claim blackmail behind the scenes. After reading more on it, either of those might very well be true.
They also might have been scared of losing another law suit from Trump.

They have business before the FCC because Nexstar is trying to finalize a deal to acquire TENGA which is another media company which owns local TV stations. Both Nexstar, Sinclair and other similar media companies are seeking to relax the existing regulation that prevents any one company from having more owning local TV stations that reach more than 39% of the national TV audience.

Finally, there are also reports that some independently ran stations were calling to boycott Kimmel as local advertisers where pulling ads in bulk the night it aired.

So basically, politics and capitalism as usual.

Both of these companies could have let local stations inclined to pre-empt to do so independently, but they chose to send a signal to the Trump compliant FCC since they have business before it. Everyone knows they need to butter the administration up if they have business before it.

 

[Schweddy]

Trump too far left for ya?

I don't trust him and he is not libertarian minded. He is for big government and everything is partisan.

 

[ElChupacabra]

It's not. No matter what your news tells you, Capitalism took him out. There will be no law suites.

It did not.

Also, the Kirk "thing" is WAY bigger than the president. It's global. I know I'm not going to convince you.
You'll have to see it for yourself and even then you won't acknowledge because everything seen is apparently through the lens of Trump.

It's global among right wing groups, sure.

You give our president too much credit. It really is a form of TDS.

The president has amplified this and chosen to vilify political opponents before the shooter was even arrested.

 

[element94]

It's not. No matter what your news tells you, Capitalism took him out. There will be no law suites.

Also, the Kirk "thing" is WAY bigger than the president. It's global. I know I'm not going to convince you.
You'll have to see it for yourself and even then you won't acknowledge because everything seen is apparently through the lens of Trump.

You give our president too much credit. It really is a form of TDS.

You trying to play down Trump tells me everything I already knew. Nothing to see here, move along.

 

[WisconIndependent]

Either what you claim or what I claim, you're right, it's not illegal but it IS against FCC Hoax regulations over a broadcast.


Hate to break it to you, but the FCC is god when it comes to media. But, they didn't violate the 1st amendment. Carr just said his opinion out loud with no legal action.

Nexstar Media Group acted independently but some claim coercion and some claim blackmail behind the scenes. After reading more on it, either of those might very well be true.
They also might have been scared of losing another law suit from Trump.

Finally, there are also reports that some independently ran stations were calling to boycott Kimmel as local advertisers where pulling ads in bulk the night it aired.

So basically, politics and capitalism as usual.

So, it's okay for the head of the FCC to threaten action as long as he does not take action, immediately. And Nextar is also controlled by the FCC, so they can be influenced by right wing politico's including Trump. And most of the local stations are also controlled by right wing owners. Check and you will see that is true as all of the ones on my area are all owned by one wealthy owner. The idea that the local stations are independent and make up their own minds shows lack of information on your part.

 

[CaughtInThe]

What say you all. Will Kimmel meet Sinclair's demands? Should he?



Sinclair wants Kimmel to...

Jimmy Kimmel Asked to Apologize and Pay Charlie Kirk's Family if He Wants Suspension Lifted by Nation's Largest ABC Affiliate

Jimmy Kimmel has been given a list of demands for 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' to return to air by Sinclair, the broadcasting company with the nation's largest ABC affiliate group, after the show was pulled indefinitely for Kimmel's comments on Charlie Kirk.

people.com

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

You find biased TV offensive?

Bias TV, Radio, parties, etc. have always done harm. These people who do it are almost as bad as those who support and condone it.