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I'm new here and hesitate to get into the middle of this but it would appear that Jimmy Carter is being attacked here for stating his beliefs & whether his beliefs are right or wrong he has the right to speak them, as do all citizens.
Here are just a few posts (from the first few pages of this thread) which would tend to show that our belief that former President Carter had a right to express his beliefs is not accepted here & that he (Carter) was viciously attacked for presenting his beliefs in many of these posts.Again, keep in mind these are attacks on someone simply for having & expressing his beliefs. (if I had more time I'm sure I could find allot more & probably worse in tone!)
Oh he's allowed to express his beliefs but we aren't allowed to express our beliefs that he's a nazi POS who hates Jews? I mean there is far far more evidence to attest to those assertions than the assertion that Wilson's statement was based on racism of which there is none.
Carter is a Nazi and a Jihadist sympathizer, and those are not opinions those are evidence based facts.
Thanks for making my case!
Carter's only offense is stating his fears about racism & yet he is being vilified for it!
Suppose....just suppose...there is some truth to his fears?
He's an EX-PRESIDENT & obviously loves his country.
He has no right to express himself?
To give you what you want, I have to find a post that actually SAYS...."Carter has no right to believe that"??
No point in further arguing the point...I gave you what you asked for & your denial of that does not change the reality.
I'm new here and hesitate to get into the middle of this but it would appear that Jimmy Carter is being attacked here for stating his beliefs & whether his beliefs are right or wrong he has the right to speak them, as do all citizens.
You must have misunderstood the question.
This is NOT evidence about Wilson's outburst, it is an opinion.
Anyone who votes to keep flying that flag at any public office is a racist son of bitch.
Yes, an informed opinion based on the many circumstances centering on Wilson's membership in a fringe racist organization, and a nasty vote to keep flying a flag that represents racism, violence and slavery - the St. Andrews cross.
I think this whole thread (now 76 pages long) can be summed up in one sentence:
Former President Jimmy Carter believes that much of the anti-Obama rhetoric, hatred & anger has racism as its base.
Much of this entire thread is a heated rant against Mr. Carter's right to have such a belief, & nothing more.
Yes, an informed opinion based on the many circumstances centering on Wilson's membership in a fringe racist organization, and a nasty vote to keep flying a flag that represents racism, violence and slavery - the St. Andrews cross.
I look at Wilson and I ask myself "Has this guy ever said the word nigger in a demeaning manner, in his liftime?"
The answer...
...yes.
You don't have to like my opinion, frankly I could not give a damn.
Anyone who votes to keep flying that flag at any public office is a racist son of bitch.
Moderator's Warning: |
It is time for one of DP's favorite games: Hypocrisy Check! [FONT="]™[/FONT]
Is there a difference in the possibility of racism when someone tries to prevent the extradition of a former member of the SS verses if someone supports the flying of the Confederate flag.
Winning on Hypocrisy Check! [FONT="]™ is never easy; lets see how many of you can.
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The Confederate flag is a trivial issue compared to someone who is an actual SS war criminal.
I'd have to say that neither is indicative of racism in and of itself.
Mostly because there are a lot of possible motivations for doing either which have nothing to do with "racism." You may find racist intent once you dig deeper, but it's not at all a given.
(Though, of course, it raises the question . . . is anti-Semitism properly called "racism"?)
Moderator's Warning: Try derailing this thread, too, and you'll be gone quicker than you can spell flag.
One could support the flying of the Confederate flag to show support for current southern states...
Quite comical reasoning. But totally expected.
It's like saying its ok to fly a Nazi flag, as long as the "intent" to fly it was based on the idea that the Nazi's brought Germany together. And everyone is for togetherness.
Just like it is for the Confederate flag - racism, hatred and oppression.
No he wasn't, he tried to write Southern slavery into the constitution.By the way, the first state that seceeded did so because of the election of Lincoln, precisly because he was an abolitionist.
Because it is two different issues.How can you sit there and defend a 'southern system' that claims to just be defending their freedom against the Federal government when they so malevolently denied that same freedom to slaves?
Carter can say what he wants...as can we all. But words of consequences, and words said, in haste, or without substantiation, not only are dangerous, and can create problems where there are none...as I said in an earlier post in this thread, but can most certainly be criticized.
If Carter can have a belief and say it, others can think this belief is idiotic and say it. It works both ways.
Quite comical reasoning. But totally expected.
It's like saying its ok to fly a Nazi flag, as long as the "intent" to fly it was based on the idea that the Nazi's brought Germany together. And everyone is for togetherness.
In the real world, you don't fly the Nazi flag because its apparent what it means to fly it.
Just like it is for the Confederate flag - racism, hatred and oppression.
Most capitol buildings don't fly it anymore.
And its obvious why.
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