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Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has claimed he can win a General Election with a platform based on socialism and the party should not hide away from the word.Speaking to Sky News, Mr Corbyn said socialism should not be treated "as a sort of bad word you should only talk about late at night".
"It's is an ideology that is based on the principle that everyone should contribute and those in need should benefit the most from our common endeavours," he said.
"The NHS is the product of the socialist thinking of many people actually and brought into operation by Aneurin Bevan - a coal miner."
He denied a personality cult had developed around him among his loyal supporters writing poetry books and defending him robustly online.
"I'm not in favour of cults of personality and I don't encourage them," he said.
"We have a system of leadership election in the party which is that individual members and unions and registered supporters have a vote, and an incredible number of people joined in our campaign.
"We had 40,000 volunteers in my leadership campaign and we put forward a series of policies which are there for discussion.
For capitalism to provide maximum benefit to society, it must be practiced with social restraint. If it goes awry, which it will if unregulated and unrestrained, talk of Socialism often rises as a foil. I think that's reasonable, and in my ideal modern society I'd probably most like to see a social-democracy similar to The Netherlands or Denmark - two places with a very high quality of life in the parameters I most value.Read more @: Jeremy Corbyn: 'We'll win election as socialist party'
After Jeremy won the recent Labour leadership election he is ready to take it on to the general election in 2020. Good luck Jeremy and stick and keep to that socialist platform
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It seems like you consider the EU and free market as good things for blue collars. This makes me laugh hard.For capitalism to provide maximum benefit to society, it must be practiced with social restraint. If it goes awry, which it will if unregulated and unrestrained, talk of Socialism often rises as a foil. I think that's reasonable, and in my ideal modern society I'd probably most like to see a social-democracy similar to The Netherlands or Denmark - two places with a very high quality of life in the parameters I most value.
So good to see this on the other-side of the pond, after the conservative foray into the Brexit! It seems to be a counterpart to our reasonable success with Bernie's movement. A little liberal yin, to the sweeping conservative yang. I think it's a good thing.
Do you realize the EU takes power from the people and put it farther from them,
False. Read the EU treaty, it clearly states the opposite.
In fact, in its history, the EU has been used to take power away from central government in countries and give it to the regional and local governments. It is especially evident in the UK, where Wales and Scotland have benefited massively from this. For decades.. hell centuries, these two regions in the UK were ignored by the elites in Westminster, and thanks to the EU, local and regional government have been able to bypass Westminster for funding for various infrastructure projects.
And yet Wales voted overwhelmingly to leave !
Nope, they voted to leave.. not overwhelmingly. 52.5% is not overwhelmingly...
It took all diplomatic, monetary, border and trade powers from nations, the most of our economic sovereignty, and the EUCJ judges regularly impose us their peculiar and partisan interpretations of the human rights on various issues from immigration to religion and labor, a blatant abuse of their power. This has been a massive confiscation of democratic power!False. Read the EU treaty, it clearly states the opposite. In fact, in its history, the EU has been used to take power away from central government in countries and give it to the regional and local governments.
Corbyn is a fool, taking his party back to the old "socialist" ways of Neil Kinnock and his ilk will not make him a popular politician. I think his victory and his mannerism will ensure a few more Tory victories.
It's worse than that. At least Kinnock expelled the militant left, and wrestled back control. Corbyn is openly encouraging Marxism and is hoping to elevate the doctrine to mainstream Labout doctrine. I think Watson has the measure of reality:
Tom Watson claims far-left Momentum members are circulating a guide to taking over the Labour Party - Mirror Online
It took all diplomatic, monetary, border and trade powers from nations, the most of our economic sovereignty, and the EUCJ judges regularly impose us their peculiar and partisan interpretations of the human rights on various issues from immigration to religion and labor, a blatant abuse of their power. This has been a massive confiscation of democratic power!
What did it give in return? The only think I can think of are greater rights for regional languages, and it is only promoted them to weaken the nations and hope that after the ensuing civil wars or unilateral votes, people left with ashes of their national identities will vow allegiance to the imperial one. Pfff.
Not the ECHR, the EUCJ: since the EU's "constitution" mentions values and human rights, the EUCJ uses it to intervene on every matter, even those who are not EU competences.But the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU... it predates the EU..
No, the coal and steel community was. However the somehow more recent idea of forging an European empire at the expense of existing nations, which the EU is becoming, is no different from the conquests of Hitler and Napoleon. Actually the EU goes further since neither Hitler nor Napoleon dreamed of forging a new common identity, which requires to first destroy (marginalize) all European cultures and languages. Such a project can only be achieved by force and tyranny.Well it was put in place to prevent another Hitler..
And that is why I, as a social democrat, do not like socialist parties. I even really dislike the socialist party in the Netherlands because it has so many outlandish ideas on the national level that they make themselves impossible to be taken serious as a possible party that can take place in the government.
Read more @: Jeremy Corbyn: 'We'll win election as socialist party'
After Jeremy won the recent Labour leadership election he is ready to take it on to the general election in 2020. Good luck Jeremy and stick and keep to that socialist platform
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Yet somehow the party membership keeps re-electing him, despite the worst efforts of the elite...
Mark Steel | The Independent
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The second disagreed with a claim, made by another Facebook commenter, that it is illegitimate to boycott Israel while European antisemitism is on the rise. Walker pushed back against a ‘Jewish particularism’ that privileges Jewish suffering and treats Jews as perpetual victims. ‘Jews do not have special status in the league of suffering’, she wrote, ‘and have as much potential to be perpetrators as the rest of humanity’. Walker stressed that ‘I will never back anti-Semitism’, but insisted that the ‘Jewish holocaust does not allow Zionists to do what they want’, such as building ‘illegal’ settlements. In response to a comment decrying ‘[any] action against’ Jews—i.e., boycotting Israel—as ‘shameful’ because of ‘[t]he holocaust’, Walker replied:
That is, Walker urged upon her interlocutors a principled and universalist compassion; a sense of perspective on the distribution of oppression today, and recognition that no group is purely perpetrator or victim, and exempt from accountability on that basis. As Walker put it, referring to genocidal campaigns against Africans and Jews, respectively: ‘[my] ancestors were involved in both—on all sides’.
How was this plea for historical perspective and ethical universalism rendered by the Jewish Chronicle? ‘Labour suspends Momentum supporter who claimed Jews caused “an African holocaust”’. In the league table of cynicism and deceit, the JC is giving Guido Fawkes a run for its money.
The attack on Walker is being driven by pro-Israel activists
Walker’s Facebook comments were unearthed by the Israel Advocacy Movement (IAM). The IAM is a crude pro-Israel advocacy group which claims that ‘Zionism and Judaism are inseparable’ (haven’t many Labour members been suspended for implying just this?); denounces Palestine activists as ‘fascists’; and despises Corbyn for his defence of Palestinian rights. The IAM was founded by Joseph Cohen, who also co-founded the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA).[1] The CAA is a pop-up ‘antisemitism’ organisation established to discredit Palestine solidarity protests in the wake of Israel’s summer 2014 offensive against Gaza. In January 2015, the CAA released two polls suggesting that the UK was awash with rampant and virulent antisemitism. The polls were dismissed by all serious analysts as a sham, and a serious study by Pew exposed the CAA’s findings as worthless.[2]
Yet somehow the party membership keeps re-electing him, despite the worst efforts of the elite...
Mark Steel | The Independent
You really need not bother inventing stories about ordinary people being influenced by some elite. Most of us (the majority of the country, that is) can see the loon for what he is.
Some of the diehard Labour RW, and the almost unanimous media, including the BBC have been rubbishing him since he won the leadership. Thousands of "ordinary people" have joined to make the Labour party bigger than it's ever been, and they voted twice now to keep him there. The idea that somehow they and he are deluded trotskyites is mental. The working people are taking the party back from the champagne Tory lite socialists. I was reading a comment earlier this week that this vilified demonised wrecker would be a middle of the road social Democrat in Scandinavia.
As Steel points out, the irony of the Labour RW attacking him for sowing disunity is especially gob-smacking. Frankly, until they get their own way and return a centrist, neo-con, Tory-lite to the leadership they will be attacking the leadership and doing everything to ensure that Labour loses. I'm not in favour of expulsions, but I'm not hopeful that any of Corbyn's internal opponents have any intention of fostering party unity.
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