JB Pritzker As 2028 Dem Nominee Just Makes Sense

[j brown's body]

Right now, there is a divide between progressives/leftists and liberals/centrists. Pritzker is someone who is well-liked on both sides. He is progressive and politically savvy. He also has that dog in him to take on any MAGA-crazed GOP candidate.

I just haven't seen any other candidate that checks the boxes the way Pritzker does.

He certainly nailed Trump.

"Empathy and compassion are evolved states of being. They require the mental capacity to step past our most primal urges. This may be a surprising assessment because somewhere along the way in the last few years, our society has come to believe that weaponized cruelty is part of some well-thought out Master plan. Cruelty is seen by some as an adroit cudgel to gain power. Empathy and kindness are considered weak. Many important people look at the vulnerable only as rungs on a ladder to the top. I'm here to tell you that when someone's path through this world is marked with acts of cruelty, they have failed the first test of an advanced society. They never forced their animal brain to evolve past its first instinct. They never forged new mental pathways to overcome their own instinctual fears. And so their thinking and problem solving will lack the imagination and creativity that the kindest people have in spades. Over my many years in politics and business, I have found one thing to be universally true. The kindest person in the room is often the smartest."

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[Emlee]

I agree, but the question is, is he ready for the national stage?

Is he even interested?

Yes, he’s showing interest.

Ready for the national stage? Imo he is, but I’ve said before he just needs more exposure given he’s not as well known as some others, like Newsome.

 

[JoeB131]

Which is why we don't need a weak ass establishment Dem. Pritzker is establishment enough to garner favor with the core and progressive enough to bring out the lefties.

I agree, we need a vibrant candidate.

What we don't need is a radical who will run off the white working class like Harris did.

I just don't see Pritzker as being that guy.

Land doesn't vote. Majority of the people live on that blue island, not the red sea.

Um, there's a little something called "The Electoral College." You might have heard of it. All the states around IL voted for Trump last time. Heck, Trump almost won Minnesota.

You mean a pro-union progressive? Well, have I got news for you...

Unions are yesterday's news. Only 5.9% of the private sector workforce is unionized.

Oh look right winger in Illinois covered in resentment. You probaby have a **** pritzker yard sign too to fit in to the club

No, a moderate in Illinois watching both parties let the inmates take over the asylums.

If either get nominated, I’ve got 100$ American that says you will call them part of radical left, if not outright Marxists, at some point in the campaign.

Um, no, I'd probably vote for whoever the Democrats put up, as I have for the last four elections. But I just won't have much emotionally invested if Shady Vance beats AOC, other than to say, "I told you so!"

 

[JoeB131]

What "we stand for" is reflected in Biden's budget; trump cut it.

Spending money we don't have on things we didn't need?

 

[Michael Cole]

FDR was the most progressive president of the 20th century, if not all of US history and he was an aristocrat. Leftists love class traitors.

Is Pritzker a class traitor? I'm just asking how the Democrats can pull it off. Pritzker is a capitalist. He and his family are also philanthropists. They give back. Many billionaires are good people. Strengthening the safety net should be accompanied by increased access to capital markets. Demonizing those that have access is, besides bigoted, counterproductive. Harris had a plan for small startups. Harris promised increased access to capital through a $50k tax deduction. Harris is a capitalist.

Nominating a billionaire to preach "hate the rich" wouldn't work. If the far-left moderated its position from anti-capitalist to regulated-capitalism, then Pritzker could work.

 

[Geoist]

Personally, I think Beshear would be far better, he has something like a 63% approval rating in a red state, more moderate, not much that can be used against him, though no doubt they will still try hard.

Beshear is my 2nd/3rd choice. The reason I have Pritzker over Beshear is mainly because I don't see Beshear having the same dog in him to go toe-to-toe with MAGA Republicans (though I have no doubt he'd still hold his own).

 

[reflechissez]

Spending money we don't have on things we didn't need?

Your posts on this topic will be a complete waste of everyone's time.

 

[roberthughey]

Right now, there is a divide between progressives/leftists and liberals/centrists. Pritzker is someone who is well-liked on both sides. He is progressive and politically savvy. He also has that dog in him to take on any MAGA-crazed GOP candidate.

I just haven't seen any other candidate that checks the boxes the way Pritzker does.

The governor of Kentucky

 

[Geoist]

Is Pritzker a class traitor? I'm just asking how the Democrats can pull it off. Pritzker is a capitalist.

As are 90% of Dems. Reasonable leftists like myself don't need a 'pure' candidate who goes full Buddha and renounces his wealth. We need a candidate who walks the talk on policy.

He and his family are also philanthropists. They give back. Many billionaires are good people.

Nobody said a billionaire can't be a good person.

Strengthening the safety net should be accompanied by increased access to capital markets. Demonizing those that have access is, besides bigoted, counterproductive.

So are you a flat tax supporter?

Nominating a billionaire to preach "hate the rich" wouldn't work.

Where did I say this?

If the far-left moderated its position from anti-capitalist to regulated-capitalism, then Pritzker could work.

If they weren't anti-capitalist then they wouldn't be far left. Reasonable leftists who believe in damage mitigation like myself are willing to vote for moderates in the generals. However, inspiring the base is still essential. If the Dem candidate is too corporate or too cucked to Israel then they are going to lose a substantial portion of the electorate.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Right now, there is a divide between progressives/leftists and liberals/centrists. Pritzker is someone who is well-liked on both sides. He is progressive and politically savvy. He also has that dog in him to take on any MAGA-crazed GOP candidate.

I just haven't seen any other candidate that checks the boxes the way Pritzker does.

His ‘sanctuary’ immigration policy and transgender athlete position are problems for the general election.

 

[ScrambledEggs]

His ‘sanctuary’ immigration policy and transgender athlete position are problems for the general election.

Plus he is fat. MAGA likes that kind of attack.

 

[Geoist]

His ‘sanctuary’ immigration policy and transgender athlete position are problems for the general election.

He believes in states rights/decentralized govt. Good for him.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Plus he is fat. MAGA likes that kind of attack.

He’s also a Progressive billionaire.

 

[Geoist]

He’s also a Progressive billionaire.

Yup. And FDR was a multi-millionaire progressive.

 

[Michael Cole]

As are 90% of Dems. Reasonable leftists like myself don't need a 'pure' candidate who goes full Buddha and renounces his wealth. We need a candidate who walks the talk on policy.

That's not how I see it. I see Bernie and AOC demonizing billionaires.

Nobody said a billionaire can't be a good person.

Many people have called billionaires evil. Right here at the forum. Many see wealth as a consequence of greed.

So are you a flat tax supporter?

Irrelevant.

Where did I say this?

It's inferred from the title.

If they weren't anti-capitalist then they wouldn't be far left. Reasonable leftists who believe in damage mitigation like myself are willing to vote for moderates in the generals. However, inspiring the base is still essential. If the Dem candidate is too corporate or too cucked to Israel then they are going to lose a substantial portion of the electorate.

Okay. Again, my point is the contradictory messages.

 

[Chomsky]

Right now, there is a divide between progressives/leftists and liberals/centrists. Pritzker is someone who is well-liked on both sides. He is progressive and politically savvy. He also has that dog in him to take on any MAGA-crazed GOP candidate.

I just haven't seen any other candidate that checks the boxes the way Pritzker does.

I will admit Pritzker, being direct, outspoken, and unafraid of confrontation, might match well against Trump. I think Dems are looking for a fighter, so he would seem to be in a position to excite and rally Dems around him.

My concern though, is he's another billionaire and won't provide a "man of the people" contrast.

I personally think Shapiro has the best shot at the White House. Newsom is the guy I personally prefer, but it's close. I'd like Whitmer on the ticket as Veep.

 

[Chomsky]

I still want Gretchen Whitmer and Mark Kelly. Don’t care much which of the two is at the top of the ticket.

Don’t know Pritzker but will take a look.

I'd like Gretchen as Veep, I think. Given recent history, women at the top of the ticket just don't seem able to close the deal. It is what it is, for whatever reason.

 

[Chomsky]

You obviously don't live in Illinois.

Pritzker only wins here because the Republican Party is so dysfunctional.

He's not a great speaker. He's only where he is because his family has more money than they know what to do with.

Now, as an aside, when I was in the National Guard, I served with his cousin. He played pretend soldier because his family wouldn't let him near the real money.

Today "she" calls herself "Jennifer". And I just threw up in my mouth a bit.

There's some truth in what you say, but in terms of Dems I think they would rally around Pritzker's combative no-holds-barred nature towards Trump. I believe Dems are looking for a fighter. A serious fighter.

How this may play with Indies though, I don't know.

 

[Buster Keaton]

We thought that Democrats hated and feared billionaire oligarchs

 

[Geoist]

I will admit Pritzker, being direct, outspoken, and unafraid of confrontation, might match well against Trump. I think Dems are looking for a fighter, so he would seem to be in a position to excite and rally Dems around him.

My concern though, is he's another billionaire and won't provide a "man of the people" contrast.

I personally think Shapiro has the best shot at the White House. Newsom is the guy I personally prefer, but it's close. I'd like Whitmer on the ticket as Veep.

FDR was a multi-millionaire during his time, and the working class LOVED him.

Shapiro is too much of an Israel-apologist to appeal to the Left. I guarantee Pritzker is much more appealing to them.

 

[phoenix2020]

We thought that Democrats hated and feared billionaire oligarchs

Why would any non-MAGA care what you think? No democrat, independent or conservative wants the vote of a MAGA foot soldier. After all, your job is to vote for whomever and whatever Donald obstructs you to vote for.

 

[ttwtt78640]

We thought that Democrats hated and feared billionaire oligarchs

Not when they bash Trump.

 

[Geoist]

That's not how I see it. I see Bernie and AOC demonizing billionaires.

Well then their message is flying over your head.

Many people have called billionaires evil. Right here at the forum. Many see wealth as a consequence of greed.

I mean, it often is. Greed may be evil... but that doesn't necessarily make the person evil.

Irrelevant.

It is absolutely not irrelevant. You seem to be claiming that taxing the wealthy at a higher rate is bigoted. So are you a flat tax proponent or not?

It's inferred from the title.

How does "JB Pritzker As 2028 Nominee Just Makes Sense" infer preaching "hate the rich?"

 

[Geoist]

We thought that Democrats hated and feared billionaire oligarchs

As usual, you think wrong.

 

[Chomsky]

I don't think anyone who lives here wants to see fatboy as President.

One thing to consider:

Illinois would have good favor from being a "favorite son" recipient. Rostenkowski, via chairing the Ways & Means Committee, brought tremendous resources to the state & city during his tenure. I would expect similar from Pritzker.