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"His Excellency" was not used after President George Washington. It reminded Americans of the British monarch.
"His Excellency" was not used after President George Washington. It reminded Americans of the British monarch.
Thing about saying the name of the Emperor of Japan: Never call him Emperor Naruhito. Living or dead, the Emperor of Japan is never called by his given name. This also applies to the living retired "emperor emeritus", who is never called Akihito. This is very important to avoid an imperial faux pas if you're ever in Japan or talking to Japanese.
When an emperor is still alive, they can only be called:
* His Majesty the Emperor (Tenno Heika)
* His Current Majesty (Kinjo Heika)
* The Emperor (Tenno)
Until his death, the emperor who just retired is called:
* The Emperor Emeritus (Daijo Tenno)
* or just for short, "Joko"
Now, AFTER an emperor's death, they still are never called in their given name. Instead, their "posthumous name" is the name of their Era, which was decided upon at their accession. Currently, it is the Reiwa Era, so the new emperor will be styled "Reiwa Tenno" posthumously. When the Emperor Emeritus dies, he will thereafter be styled "Heisei Tenno"; but never until then.
Thus, the Japanese never call the wartime emperor (reigned 1926 to 1989) as "Emperor Hirohito" as we do in the West; but the Emperor Showa (Showa-Tenno).
I have no idea what to call the Empress, or her mother-in-law, the Empress Emeritus. Of course, we always refer to a non-reigning Queen (wife of a king) as Your Majesty in the West. I am not aware of a convention involving a posthumous name for Her Imperial Majesty.
Yeah, but that's speaking of him in the third person.A million thanks for your erudite explanation.
I do not know Japanese, but when I occasionally watch a Japanese-language newscast on YouTube, I am able to understand the newsreader when she says "Tenno Heika."
Welll, you do have an official (by now) title to use as proper form of address.I do so wish that the United States had a ceremonial head of state, too. Then we could have someone whom we all respected or at least whom we didn't care about either way. As it is, the country is dangerously polarized.
When you're not sure of the societal or hierarchical position of a Japanese (in relation to your own) YOU bow deeply while slanting your view up at him to see what he does. If he gives a less deep bow your rank is established and you wait for him to stop bowing. Then you can relax your neck as well.I just can't get over it: the politeness of the Japanese to their emperor.
Every morning, I go to YouTube to see the latest videos of the Emperor and Empress (usually, they are shown getting on or off the imperial train).
Everyone is bowing to their majesties, and the latter bow back (although not so deeply).
I dream of what our country would be like if members of Congress bowed to President Trump, and he to them. Surely, it would help to dampen some of the animosity between them.
Sigh.
On May 1, 2019, Japan will have a new emperor.
His Majesty Emperor Naruhito will occupy the Chrysanthemum Throne.
His enthronement ceremony will be later.
We Americans are scheduled to be honored by having His Excellency President Donald J. Trump as His Majesty's first foreign guest.
I prefer my previously stated version (clown). Short and to the point and far less pretentious.:lol:I think the term " your Orangency " might be worth considering if the more honest " your Bigotency " is a little too graphic
I prefer my previously stated version (clown). Short and to the point and far less pretentious.:lol:
I understand that our more formal foreign friends do address our president as "His Excellency."
And, I believe, that the title was used in the earlier days of the republic, e.g., His Excellency President George Washington.
I think that we need a little more formality and ceremony in our country. So I'm trying to reintroduce "His Excellency."
(P.S. Even the title "The Honorable" drives some anti-Trump people absolutely bananas!)
Have a nice day!
Might want to “return” to YOUTUBE; how far a journey is it anyway?
If you're ever invited, you address him with Heika (forget the Tenno, he knows what he is already). And wait for him to address you first. All others of nobility (his wife included) may be addressed as "sama". That's a suffix to the name (Oda-sama) applied to males and females alike but don't ever use Heika as a suffix, it stands alone as address.
Name here being family name, using the first name is heavily frowned upon even today. Confusion may arise while reading a business (calling) card. By the Eastern name order it'll show the family name first, given name second. Thus Hiro (given name) Matsuoro (family name) will show as Matsuoro Hiro. When the addressee is not of nobility the more apt suffix will be san (Matsuoro-san).
Thank you.
Bye the way, the honorific "His Excellency" is not used with US presidents. Just the title "Mr. President" or "The Honorable".
They tried but we dont have a king so the title is not used perhaps we can go back to his rotundity?