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Jan 6 hearings, a fiasco?

Well, to be fair, all normal, patriotic decent Americans are anti-Trump.

He's a criminal who's trying to destroy America as we know it. You're not anti-that?
I reject your insult, I am Pro God, Pro American. When there is what is described by Chuck Grassly as Impactful, Voluminous Evidence of the Bidens including Joes activities when he was VP being crimminal.
10.17.2022
The Chinese own Biden

FBI Possesses Significant, Impactful, Voluminous Evidence of Potential Criminality in Biden Family Business Arrangements​


Grassley seeks specific records from FBI related to Biden deals with foreign nationals and companies connected to the communist Chinese regime​


WASHINGTON – Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Chuck Grassley is calling on the FBI to produce specific records in its possession indicating potential criminal activity in the Biden family’s foreign business deals. It remains unclear whether those FBI records, which have been reviewed by Grassley’s investigative staff, have been shared with the Delaware U.S. Attorney’s Office as part of its ongoing criminal investigation into Hunter Biden.

Since first raising concern about bias by senior leadership and a double standard by the FBI in politically sensitive investigations, numerous whistleblowers have made legally protected disclosures substantiating these concerns.

Notably, the Justice Department and FBI have not disputed the accuracy of the allegations that I have made public since May 31, 2022. The Justice Department’s and FBI’s continued silence on these matters is deafening and further erodes their credibility. Simply put, enough is enough – the Justice Department and FBI must come clean to Congress and the American people with respect to the steps they have taken, or failed to take, relating to the Hunter Biden investigation,” Grassley wrote in a letter to FBI and Justice Department leadership as well as the Delaware U.S. attorney.

In the letter, Grassley attached a contract, signed by Hunter and James Biden and three other business associates. The contract was part of an arrangement designed to funnel $5 million from the Chinese communist government-connected CEFC to Hunter and James Biden to compensate them for work done while Joe Biden was vice president, according to an FBI interview summary of Tony Bobulinski. But other records held by the FBI reveal frustration by the Bidens about CEFC’s payment being delayed. Records previously released by Grassley and Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) show James and Hunter Biden ultimately profited from a $5 million payment from a company connected to CEFC via a separate arrangement.

Other records held by the FBI shed light on Hunter Biden’s business and financial relationship with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky. These documents include specific details about conversations by non-government individuals relevant to potential criminal conduct by Hunter Biden. These documents also indicate that Joe Biden was aware of Hunter Biden’s business arrangements and may have been involved in some of them. It remains unclear whether the FBI took appropriate steps to follow up on this information or passed it to the Delaware U.S. attorney’s office.
 
Only if it involves a conservative, and then it's the seriousness of the accusation, not the proof. Same playbook the left has used for years.
Except backwards. Remember Hillary and Benghazi? Remember the guy they impeached for lying about adult consensual sex?

Conservatives get away with major crimes and then attack Dems for BJs.
 
Lol
You want a theocracy?
Your BS remains BS

Biden is an actual Chrisitan whereas Trump worships the almighty dollar
So you look at the link, stick your fingers in your ears and go NAH NAH NAH. Cool Anyone pro abortion is most definitively not Christian!
 
Not so much.
Bias is in the mind of the observer. I sincerely believe that most all American media are rightwing, in the long run.

Just as media 100 years ago was conservative. All of it.
 
No, not anyone, just the commies.
Right. But you just said that they're all commies... everyone who opposes your political positions.

Didn't you?
 
I'm sorry are you calling CNN neutral, NBC, CBS?
No, I consider them overly conservative. But they're as close to neutral as we can currently find.
 
So you look at the link, stick your fingers in your ears and go NAH NAH NAH. Cool Anyone pro abortion is most definitively not Christian!
More BS there are lots of Christians who are pro choice
Trump himself is pro abortion he doesnt care what the laws are as he knows he can send his mistresses somewhere where it is allowed

Again, I'll ask do you want to live in a theocracy?
 
I reject your insult, I am Pro God, Pro American. When there is what is described by Chuck Grassly as Impactful, Voluminous Evidence of the Bidens including Joes activities when he was VP being crimminal.
10.17.2022
The Chinese own Biden

FBI Possesses Significant, Impactful, Voluminous Evidence of Potential Criminality in Biden Family Business Arrangements​


Grassley seeks specific records from FBI related to Biden deals with foreign nationals and companies connected to the communist Chinese regime​


WASHINGTON – Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Chuck Grassley is calling on the FBI to produce specific records in its possession indicating potential criminal activity in the Biden family’s foreign business deals. It remains unclear whether those FBI records, which have been reviewed by Grassley’s investigative staff, have been shared with the Delaware U.S. Attorney’s Office as part of its ongoing criminal investigation into Hunter Biden.

Since first raising concern about bias by senior leadership and a double standard by the FBI in politically sensitive investigations, numerous whistleblowers have made legally protected disclosures substantiating these concerns.

Notably, the Justice Department and FBI have not disputed the accuracy of the allegations that I have made public since May 31, 2022. The Justice Department’s and FBI’s continued silence on these matters is deafening and further erodes their credibility. Simply put, enough is enough – the Justice Department and FBI must come clean to Congress and the American people with respect to the steps they have taken, or failed to take, relating to the Hunter Biden investigation,” Grassley wrote in a letter to FBI and Justice Department leadership as well as the Delaware U.S. attorney.

In the letter, Grassley attached a contract, signed by Hunter and James Biden and three other business associates. The contract was part of an arrangement designed to funnel $5 million from the Chinese communist government-connected CEFC to Hunter and James Biden to compensate them for work done while Joe Biden was vice president, according to an FBI interview summary of Tony Bobulinski. But other records held by the FBI reveal frustration by the Bidens about CEFC’s payment being delayed. Records previously released by Grassley and Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) show James and Hunter Biden ultimately profited from a $5 million payment from a company connected to CEFC via a separate arrangement.

Other records held by the FBI shed light on Hunter Biden’s business and financial relationship with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky. These documents include specific details about conversations by non-government individuals relevant to potential criminal conduct by Hunter Biden. These documents also indicate that Joe Biden was aware of Hunter Biden’s business arrangements and may have been involved in some of them. It remains unclear whether the FBI took appropriate steps to follow up on this information or passed it to the Delaware U.S. attorney’s office.
1) Not interested in your whataboutism. We're talking here about cornering a dangerous criminal.

2) I don't believe anything you say about the Bidens.
 
No, I consider them overly conservative. But they're as close to neutral as we can currently find.
When you are at the extreme right anything left of you is left just as those on the extreme left see anything right of them as right
 
Bias is in the mind of the observer. I sincerely believe that most all American media are rightwing, in the long run.

Just as media 100 years ago was conservative. All of it.

I can understand your feeling this way; however, in the last 75 years, most of the media has been very left-leaning and that was by design. It was meant to keep the right wing in check. Classically, this group is known as the 4th estate or 4th branch of government.
 
When you are at the extreme right anything left of you is left just as those on the extreme left see anything right of them as right
Yeah, extremism is the enemy. And it blinds a person to clear thought.
 
I can understand your feeling this way; however, in the last 75 years, most of the media has been very left-leaning and that was by design. It was meant to keep the right wing in check. Classically, this group is known as the 4th estate or 4th branch of government.
I dunno. Even now when I watch the evening network news, I see rightwing bias. It may be unintentional, but I heard an anchor the other day go on and on about terrible US inflation while not saying a word about that inflation being worldwide.

So the average, uneducated viewer would come away from that news thinking that America is uniquely burdened with an inflation problem... and would blame the current administration for it.

If the network were "liberal", they would have leaned on the fact that inflation is worldwide. So I consider them unintentionally rightwing.
 
How many hours were spent to defend Trump on the Commission?...
None. Because everyone within his inner circle testified he didn't want to do anything that would interfere with his useful idiot violent insurrection mob's attempt to cease the peaceful transfer of power from his defeated ass to a duly POTUS-Elect by hanging VP Mike Pence. Next stupid question.
 
More BS there are lots of Christians who are pro choice
Trump himself is pro abortion he doesnt care what the laws are as he knows he can send his mistresses somewhere where it is allowed

Again, I'll ask do you want to live in a theocracy?
No such thing as a pro choice Christian .
 
Except they aren't
No one is a Christian if they disagree with you on a theological or political issue, eh?

Of course they aren't. What cult can allow dissent among their members!
 
One thing the hearings have done quite well is establish the fact that Trump knew he lost and does not actually believe his own lies about the election.
 
OK, we'll just have to disagree. Remember who is closest to most every mobster in the history of mobsters? The driver. The guy who the mobster interacts with every day.

Same with palace guards. I think we need to watch them very carefully, and I can see no harm in having a database of their calls, just as Big Brother has on every American, I'm sure.

Oh, I agree we need to watch them carefully... but part of that is not drawing them into the political sphere at all. That's why I say Ornato going from the protective detail to WH Deputy Chief of Staff was such a betrayal of the agency. He crossed over that line. I'm thinking he crossed a lot of lines, but that one for sure.

The way I figure it, you've got the protective detail in their own little bubble.... and they report to the Director of the Secret Service who is then accountable to Congressional oversight. It's vital that the Director both makes sure that the protective detail does their job and only their job... but also to run interference with Congress so that they don't get drawn into politics. I see destroying the phone logs as part of that interference.
 
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