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Jail and Loss of Citizenship for Flag Burning?

Do You agree with trump?

  • Great idea, throw them in jail then out of the country

    Votes: 3 2.1%

  • Worst idea ever, a clear violation of the 1st A

    Votes: 126 87.5%

  • Other, see explaination

    Votes: 15 10.4%
  • Total voters
    144
  • Poll closed .
Ikari said:
Hmm, not really. But what you're saying is that it's ok to be a socialist so long as that application of socialism is something you agree with, yeah? Interesting.

Also how about quoting the Constitution as it talks about Flag Burning like you claimed it did.
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im not sure 'socialist' means what u think it means. as for the constitution, weve already determined that flag burning is illegalized.
 
d0gbreath said:
Sure wingnut, you fought for my rights. Now go away.
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Like I said, the inadequacy to understand the nature of the USC and the ideas of liberty of your father and boss should not be visited upon the entire military.

Thier ignorance is on them. Don't be bigoted.
 
Ikari said:
Rights are rights, first off. Secondly, he wasn't making and differentiation between "illegal aliens" (man, is that the standard go-to these days). He said anyone burning the flag, which would include citizens...since US citizens are part of the larger group "anyone".

Duh.

And even if an "illegal alien" burned a flag on US soil, you have no right or justification to assault them.
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I do not plan to assault them

I want to see them deported

Because foreigners do not have a constitutional right to burn the flag
 
11Bravo said:
yea we already know its in the constitution its been stated and backed up by facts. ur just ignoring it.
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I accept your concession. you do a great disservice when you lie while representing who you are representing. you should be better than this.
 
Casper said:
Cute how you actually believe that. Going to be a long four years for all of us.
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I do believe that. It is what allowed me to see through the political nonsense and hateful hyperbole and intellectual dishonesty and vote for the man with a clear conscience. I don't like everything about him, I don't like all his ideas, and I don't like the way he often expresses himself, but I see in him a potential to do something good for America that Hillary had no incentive, class, competence, or desire to do.

It may indeed be a long four years for all of us. But I'm hoping it is only a long four years for the hateful, intolerant, disruptive, dishonest, and hopelessly anti-American and anti-liberty types.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
I accept your concession. you do a great disservice when you lie while representing who you are representing. you should be better than this.
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like a child, youre ignoring the facts and just screaming "nope youre wrong!" with nothing to back up ur claims
 
11Bravo said:
im not sure 'socialist' means what u think it means. as for the constitution, weve already determined that flag burning is illegalized.
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It means government ownership of personal property. You claim that when one buys a flag, that purchase making it their private property, that it's actually property of the government. Socialists man...do they even know what they're talking about, lol.
 
Mac77 said:
I do not plan to assault them

I want to see them deported

Because foreigners do not have a constitutional right to burn the flag
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Foreigners still have the right to free speech, even here, and that includes burning the flag. Now if they are here illegally, you may certainly deport them for that. But not just for burning a flag.
 
11Bravo said:
like a child, youre ignoring the facts and just screaming "nope youre wrong!" with nothing to back up ur claims
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Let me help you out.

Constitution Flag Burning.webp

The Constitution doesn't mention flag burning even once.
 
Ikari said:
It means government ownership of personal property. You claim that when one buys a flag, that purchase making it their private property, that it's actually property of the government. Socialists man...do they even know what they're talking about, lol.
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sounds more like protection of the national treasure
 
Ikari said:
Foreigners still have the right to free speech, even here, and that includes burning the flag. Now if they are here illegally, you may certainly deport them for that. But not just for burning a flag.
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Wrong

For foreigners free speech is a privilege not a right

And that applies most especially to illegal aliens
 
Ockham said:
yes actually it is bad.
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but its to keep the people and our national treasure safe. dont want the flag burning terrorists to roam around and destroy our american values.
 
Mac77 said:
Wrong

For foreigners free speech is a privilege not a right

And that applies most especially to illegal aliens
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Rights are rights, they are innate. So everyone has the right to free speech, and in America we recognize it. Thus you cannot deport someone solely for burning the flag.
 
11Bravo said:
but its to keep the people and our national treasure safe. dont want the flag burning terrorists to roam around and destroy our american values.
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No it's not. Flag burners are not terrorists. I understand your distaste and share it, but that does not mean I want the government who I do not trust to do the right thing by it's citizens, owning the flag. I fear you may be putting too much faith in an institution that has at it's core it's own preservation, not yours.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Like I said, the inadequacy to understand the nature of the USC and the ideas of liberty of your father and boss should not be visited upon the entire military.

Thier ignorance is on them. Don't be bigoted.
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I guess I used two examples that I know to bolster my argument. Obviously, that was over-reaching. Much like calling everyone in uniform a hero.
 
Ikari said:
Rights are rights, they are innate. So everyone has the right to free speech, and in America we recognize it. Thus you cannot deport someone solely for burning the flag.
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Illegal aliens do not have the right to be in this country.

They do enjoy limited rights in criminal cases where they could be put in jail

Due process, the right to council, the right to remain silent.

But I am not proposing to put them in jail even though I wish I could

I just want to kick them out of the country which is a civil not criminal proceedure
 
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