Ivermectin no more effective than placebo for covid

[Fledermaus]

Where do you think the health agencies and the medical researchers, and the news outlets, get most of their funding?

 

[Good4Nothin]

If you bother to look it up, you will stop laughing.

 

[noonereal]

Journal of the American Medical Association

Efficacy of Ivermectin on Disease Progression in Patients With COVID-19

This randomized clinical trial assesses the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in preventing progression to severe disease among high-risk patients with COVID-19 in Malaysia.

jamanetwork.com

In this randomized clinical trial of early ivermectin treatment for adults with mild to moderate COVID-19 and comorbidities, we found no evidence that ivermectin was efficacious in reducing the risk of severe disease. Our findings are consistent with the results of the IVERCOR-COVID19 trial,17 which found that ivermectin was ineffective in reducing the risk of hospitalization.



I'm sure we'll see all sorts of apologies from the liars that shilled this bullshit right?

This only speaks to sever disease.

I have seen studies that show marginal improvement vs placebo in less than sever disease.

And lets not forget, if you get Covid you may well be the sickest you have ever been in your life, suffering horribly and it is not considered serious. You will welcome any help to alleviate he suffering.

 

[Fledermaus]

If you bother to look it up, you will stop laughing.

 

[mike2810]

This only speaks to sever disease.

I have seen studies that show marginal improvement vs placebo in less than sever disease.

And lets not forget, if you get Covid you may well be the sickest you have ever been in your life, suffering horribly and it is not considered serious. You will welcome any help to alleviate he suffering.

Provide a link to a couple of the "studies" that show marginal improvement vs. placebo.

In the studies you mention, what else was the person taking? Was it ivermectin only? WAs it ivermectin + some other drug.

I have no clinical study to back it up, but a few years ago I had a bad cold. Ran out of cold medicine so I used a shots of Jim Beam and honey. It seemed to help. Within a couple of days I was better. It had to be what I took, right?

 

[noonereal]

Provide a link to a couple of the "studies" that show marginal improvement vs. placebo.

In the studies you mention, what else was the person taking? Was it ivermectin only? WAs it ivermectin + some other drug.

I have no clinical study to back it up, but a few years ago I had a bad cold. Ran out of cold medicine so I used a shots of Jim Beam and honey. It seemed to help. Within a couple of days I was better. It had to be what I took, right?

Don't wait for me to do busy work for you, I could care less what you want to believe.

It will be easy for you to resource VALID studies (yes, more than one) from respected institutions that show ivermectin to be marginally effective against non serious Covid.

 

[noonereal]

I have no clinical study to back it up, but a few years ago I had a bad cold. Ran out of cold medicine so I used a shots of Jim Beam and honey. It seemed to help. Within a couple of days I was better. It had to be what I took, right?

BTW, I do not appreciate your sarcasm. I, of all posters here am the least prone to such logical fallacies of though.

 

[Monica33]

Probably pointless to argue further. There are only a certain percentage of gullibles who can be unconditioned .

IVM works --literally hundreds of doctors across the world know it does . Possibly thousands but I stopped counting 18 months ago .
Over 100 studies clearly show it works .
The pandemic ceases to exist once effective alternative treatments become available. Nobody dare undermine the establishment let alone parts of its very own organisation .
Any US health professional will lose their job , livelihood, even life if they contradict CDC and even FDA .
Research grants disappear if the establishment is contradicted .
One state in India with 240million population eradicated Covid by only using IVM.

Believe what you will, but I prefer real science and not Fake MSM News fed under obligation from Pharma and through CDC and FDA .

 

[Dans La Lune]

You have no proof at all that conservatives have the most comorbidities

Of course there's proof.

Why Red States Suffer Greater Obesity

Why might there be a correlation between obesity and voting patterns?

www.psychologytoday.com

10 most obese states in America (and the right-wing policies that enable them) - Salon.com

It's not a coincidence that some of the poorest and most obese states in the country tend to lean Republican

www.salon.com

nor any proof that masks work.

Why do surgeons wear masks?

I have asked for this a thousand times now.

The 6 things doctors wish patients knew about masks

Even though wearing a mask is vital to preventing the spread of COVID-19, there are still myths and misunderstandings. Physicians want to clear them up.

www.ama-assn.org

You could have saved time and asked a professional. It's the same reason people are supposed to cover their mouth when they cough, or sneeze in their sleeve. Only more effective.

You can prove it very simply by pointing to the states that have far fewer infections per capita because of their mask insistence.

Isn't the the proof of mask efficacy in the simple science of how airborne viruses are transmitted?

No one has done it yet and there are 50 states. How about you being the first to show up your fellow comrades?

Is that the official test for mask efficacy?

 

[Fledermaus]

Probably pointless to argue further. There are only a certain percentage of gullibles who can be unconditioned .

Yep, CT gullible are immune to reality.

IVM works --literally hundreds of doctors across the world know it does . Possibly thousands but I stopped counting 18 months ago .
Over 100 studies clearly show it works .

Ivermectin has been tried and failed.

The pandemic ceases to exist once effective alternative treatments become available. Nobody dare undermine the establishment let alone parts of its very own organisation .
Any US health professional will lose their job , livelihood, even life if they contradict CDC and even FDA .
Research grants disappear if the establishment is contradicted .
One state in India with 240million population eradicated Covid by only using IVM.

Believe what you will, but I prefer real science and not Fake MSM News fed under obligation from Pharma and through CDC and FDA .

Nope. Not even close to correct.

 

[mike2810]

BTW, I do not appreciate your sarcasm. I, of all posters here am the least prone to such logical fallacies of though.

sorry you were offended.
However, when someone makes a claim about studies and does not provide a link to them, I am suspect of what they are saying. I asked for the links so I could see the exact studies you were referring too.

If I said Ivermectin does not help in the treatment of covid-19. Would you accept that without any backup references?

Since you read the studies, you could have answered the other questions on if other medications were taken. You chose not to. At least then we could discuss if it was Ivermectin or a combination of it with other drugs that allegedly improved a covid patients health.

As far as my example you took as sarcasm. It is a true story. I used Jim Beam and Honey after I ran out of cold medicine.

 

[CaughtInThe]

IVM works

You are a far, far right wing extremist. Off the damn cliff.

 

[CaughtInThe]

I wonder how many kids lost their parents today because of the misinformation from the anti-vaxers and extremists.

And if you've noticed, not a one of them care.

 

[Paradoxical]

Of course there's proof.

Why Red States Suffer Greater Obesity

Why might there be a correlation between obesity and voting patterns?

www.psychologytoday.com

10 most obese states in America (and the right-wing policies that enable them) - Salon.com

It's not a coincidence that some of the poorest and most obese states in the country tend to lean Republican

www.salon.com

Why do surgeons wear masks?

The 6 things doctors wish patients knew about masks

Even though wearing a mask is vital to preventing the spread of COVID-19, there are still myths and misunderstandings. Physicians want to clear them up.

www.ama-assn.org

You could have saved time and asked a professional. It's the same reason people are supposed to cover their mouth when they cough, or sneeze in their sleeve. Only more effective.



Isn't the the proof of mask efficacy in the simple science of how airborne viruses are transmitted?



Is that the official test for mask efficacy?

Read up on why surgeons wear masks. It is NOT for COVID but for blood splatters.

Tes, the best scientific proof is that you show me in real-life situations the states that are required to wear masks do better. Book stuff or proclamations by those in authority doesn't cut it.

The links I won't read. One is from the ridiculous Salon and you provided no excerpts or proof.

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

Journal of the American Medical Association

Efficacy of Ivermectin on Disease Progression in Patients With COVID-19

This randomized clinical trial assesses the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in preventing progression to severe disease among high-risk patients with COVID-19 in Malaysia.

jamanetwork.com

In this randomized clinical trial of early ivermectin treatment for adults with mild to moderate COVID-19 and comorbidities, we found no evidence that ivermectin was efficacious in reducing the risk of severe disease. Our findings are consistent with the results of the IVERCOR-COVID19 trial,17 which found that ivermectin was ineffective in reducing the risk of hospitalization.



I'm sure we'll see all sorts of apologies from the liars that shilled this bullshit right?

So this group is saying that Ivermectin will do absolutely no harm...
Well other countries use it and has had success in reducing the severity of covid!

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines - PMC

Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials. We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Military Documents About Gain of Function Contradict Fauci Testimony Under Oath | Project Veritas

Investigating and exposing corruption in both public and private institutions.

www.projectveritas.com

 

[Ethel2]

Don't wait for me to do busy work for you, I could care less what you want to believe.

It will be easy for you to resource VALID studies (yes, more than one) from respected institutions that show ivermectin to be marginally effective against non serious Covid.

There are no good studies at all that show that ivermectin provides any benefit against covid at any level of severity. That’s not to say that ivermectin has been proven to be useless. It’s very difficult to prove a negative. So far there is no evidence whatsoever to support its use.

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

I wonder how many kids lost their parents today because of the misinformation from the anti-vaxers and extremists.

And if you've noticed, not a one of them care.

None! If they died from covid, then you need to blame Facui and his counterparts in Wuhan for creating and releasing this virus on to the world !

 

[Ethel2]

Read up on why surgeons wear masks. It is NOT for COVID but for blood splatters.

Tes, the best scientific proof is that you show me in real-life situations the states that are required to wear masks do better. Book stuff or proclamations by those in authority doesn't cut it.

The links I won't read. One is from the ridiculous Salon and you provided no excerpts or proof.

Ummmm
Surgeons wear masks primarily to protect patients from exhaled pathogens.
You have no idea what you are talking about. As usual.

 

[Ethel2]

None! If they died from covid, then you need to blame Facui and his counterparts in Wuhan for creating and releasing this virus on to the world !

Please produce proof from a reputable source that proves beyond a doubt that Dr Fauci had anything to do with creating covid.
Or admit you made it up.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Read up on why surgeons wear masks. It is NOT for COVID but for blood splatters.

If anyone listens to the above poster, who has been wrong about COVID from day one, they must have a hole in their head...


"We recently spoke to several Yale Medicine doctors about the medical reasons why they wear masks. They are protective on several levels, explains Manisha Juthani, MD, an infectious disease specialist. “It is really important for me to wear a mask when I'm taking care of patients who have a respiratory virus that I could be at risk of getting and then potentially giving to somebody else.” In fact, the only way she can treat patients with different infectious diseases is by wearing a medical-grade mask so she does not spread any disease or get sick herself."

 

[CaughtInThe]

None! If they died from covid, then you need to blame Facui and his counterparts in Wuhan for creating and releasing this virus on to the world !

Actually, a ton of them are dying because they're unvaccinated.

You people who are spreading the misinformation about the vaccines and safety are causing their deaths when they believe you.

I hope you aren't religious.

 

[Fledermaus]

None! If they died from covid, then you need to blame Facui and his counterparts in Wuhan for creating and releasing this virus on to the world !

You have EVIDENCE Fauci created COVID-19?

 

[Fledermaus]

Don't wait for me to do busy work for you, I could care less what you want to believe.

It will be easy for you to resource VALID studies (yes, more than one) from respected institutions that show ivermectin to be marginally effective against non serious Covid.

How about the largest real world application of Ivermectin? Dwarfing all studies. Would that do?

 

[noonereal]

Since you read the studies, you could have answered the other questions on if other medications were taken. You chose not to. At least then we could discuss if it was Ivermectin or a combination of it with other drugs that allegedly improved a covid patients health.

First off, I am not advocate of Ivermectin. I am simply not agenda driven. Either right nor left.

Second, it is clear you are attempting to say that others meds may be responsible for improved outcomes in the studies. A reputable study takes into account such things so this point is without merit.

and no, like I said, I will not run done the various studies. You can go on believing as you like. It is no skin off me. I simply shared my knowledge for your edification.

 

[noonereal]

How about the largest real world application of Ivermectin? Dwarfing all studies. Would that do?

Of course not. There must be controls or it's garbage. You know this. You are not one of the idiots here.