It's time for RENT CONTROLS

[RaleBulgarian]

The sky high rents are caused by the progressive regulatory state restricting the supply of housing via planning and zoning regulations, impact fees, so-called "smart growth" policies, ridiculous building codes, etc.

I may soon write a series of posts about how government ruined the American housing market.

Should be good WC reading material.

 

[RealityNow]

The sky high rents are caused by the progressive regulatory state restricting the supply of housing via planning and zoning regulations, impact fees, so-called "smart growth" policies, ridiculous building codes, etc.

I may soon write a series of posts about how government ruined the American housing market.

I'd suggest you do a bit more reading:
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A varity of States such as California, Oregon, Montana, New York and Others are changing the Paradigm...
"How lawmakers are upending the California lifestyle to fight a housing shortage"

You might want to read the work HUD is doing within the Community Development Block Grants to Support and Promote Affordable Housing and Mixed Income Developments.

I've worked in that sector, so... I know for a fact, what you are saying is not true.

Government did not cause the housing issue, Real Estate Agencies & Brokers along with Bankers and their MBS (Mortgate Back Securities) led to the massive over inflated valuations, and house flipping and now Wall Street Investors saw this as a "Profit Gouging Model" after the crash of 2007 left so many foreclosures across the nation, these same people who played into the MBS greed game, are the same people who are not trying to capitalize on the same housing market they damaged by their MBS and Varitable Rage Game.
It was the government that helped bring back some stability to help keep people in their homes and helped many people via the HAMP (Home Affordable Modification Program).

 

[braindrain]

Policies are not bad... Its the conduct of people, that make things bad. People fight change, and turn what can be good into something that is challenged. When such things happen.
How do parents raise and groom their kids not to abuse things, is by Penalty. Mankind will engage the proclivity to be beast without constructive penality. Not everyone is raised with "good principles and respect for values"... or "respect for others" or "respect for the system".

Any Job that people have ever had, when policies are put in place, its to prevent abuse, when abuse happens policies are put in place. It's happens within the work place and it happens in the homes where people responsibly raise their kids to be respectful and responsible.

Man's greed is an atrocity that causes all sort of Havoc, and then people seek to blame everything, "except the individual who embrace and submit themselves to greed, and/or disrespect.

When people back and support prices going out of control, all they do is "erode the value of "Denominational Currency"... and when they do that, Denominal Currency is weakened in its purchasing power.

These are things that is not taught to people. People are taught to hoard, chase greed, and pursue gain by any means with regard for nothing but the pursuit of gain.

Life is not hard, it's people lack of respect and illresponsibility that bring and create difficulty. Mankind was gifted with the ability to "think" and to "learn".. but too many people grow up... undisciplined and driven by "selfishness". and then others try and excuse it, by fighting against societial principles and regulatory standards.

• Man left to his own selfishness will engage "savagery" and become "barbaric".

We suffer as a society because University has for too long taught based on "greed and hoard principles" driven by a "get rich quick by any means madness". We've seen it and we see it... those types engage any and every type of debauchery that is common to "Heathens".

Yes all your ideas would be great if it weren’t for reality and human behavior getting in the way. If only humans would do as you wish life would be perfect.

Do you actually believe the nonsense you post or are you just playing around.

 

[aociswundumho]

I'd suggest you do a bit more reading:
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A varity of States such as California, Oregon, Montana, New York and Others are changing the Paradigm...
"How lawmakers are upending the California lifestyle to fight a housing shortage"

I've worked in that sector, so... I know for a fact, what you are saying is not true.

Government did not cause the housing issue,

Yes it did. From the article you linked to:

When California lawmakers tried earlier this year to force local governments to allow four or more homes on land zoned for single-family residences, fierce pushback from suburban communities stopped the plan in its tracks. For many, the long-standing neighborhood template of a home, backyard and garage on a lot was too intrinsic to the California lifestyle to upend.

What you can build on your own property is being decided by politics. In a nutshell that's how government ruined the housing market - by replacing market forces with political decisions.

State legislators began wiping away restrictions against building small backyard homes in 2016, passing bills that aimed to reduce utility-connection fees and other barriers, and required cities and counties to approve the units more quickly. Those efforts, combined with increased interest from some local governments in making it easier to build, have led to a surge in construction.

In other words, reducing the amount of government intrusion makes things better (big surprise). They are rolling back some regulations and "other barriers" because they are failures and part of the problem.

“We’re on the precipice of single-family zoning functionally not existing,” said Ben Metcalf, former director of the state’s Department of Housing and Community Development.

It shouldn't have existed in the first place. Again, this is all an attempt to try to reduce the damage to the market caused by government intervention.

 

[SkyChief]

. . . . Life is not caught in a "Freeze Frame Spectrum", never has been. Anything that exist in a Governed Nation can be Regulated and made non exempt. I think if people understand the fact that "A Governed Nations" is exactly that, "A Governed Nation".

California as well as Other States are changing the Paradigm...
"How lawmakers are upending the California lifestyle to fight a housing shortage"

You believe that government should have absolute regulatory and restrictive power over its citizens?

I gave you a real-world example of how rent control destroyed the rental housing market in Santa Monica. You ignore the facts and tout massive government power. You provided this link about government altering California lifestyles with legislation. Most freedom-loving people don't want government to "alter" our lifestyles . . . the one's I know anyways.

This rezoning legislation in the L.A. Times link has nothing to do with rent control. Rent control is destructive, and has backfired when and where it was implemented.

It's a bad idea.

 

[RealityNow]

Yes all your ideas would be great if it weren’t for reality and human behavior getting in the way. If only humans would do as you wish life would be perfect.

Do you actually believe the nonsense you post or are you just playing around.

Every generation people learn more than the generation before them. I have faith in the future and I have faith in young people because they are the future.
If you don't, that your choice, and if you care to call it nonsense, that too is your choice.

I don't take things for granted, I am not an anti-government person and I do pay attention to the things that are being developed by young people for the future they are creating and building. I don't live in a self encircling pessimism.

I choose "optimism"... and it has continued to serve me well in my living. In my work, I have never in life held a job that I did not "improve its efficiency and productivity. I don't fear change, and I look for ways to build upon things in life.

People are people, some learn and some choose to fight against learning.. some are forced to learn and some pursue learning with a passion to learn more. some suffer the consequences of their resistance to learning.

 

[RealityNow]

Yes it did. From the article you linked to:



What you can build on your own property is being decided by politics. In a nutshell that's how government ruined the housing market - by replacing market forces with political decisions.



In other words, reducing the amount of government intrusion makes things better (big surprise). They are rolling back some regulations and "other barriers" because they are failures and part of the problem.



It shouldn't have existed in the first place. Again, this is all an attempt to try to reduce the damage to the market caused by government intervention.

You SERIOUSLY don't understand the principles of living in a Governed Society !!! yet, you been living within it your entire life...
Probably your bitterness is becasue you seem to want to fight against and attack anything and everything about the Governing Principles and Values.

• Since that's what turns you own... you may enjoy your perpetual anguish and misery...

Maybe you could learn about 'County Ordinance and Regulations' as well as "City Ordinance" and "Metropolitian Planning who deals with Zoning".

• I've owned property that had single family home on it, that was zoned R-3, which meant I could build additional units on the property.

Too many people cry and whine about "everything"... I don't suffer from that malady.

 

[RealityNow]

You believe that government should have absolute regulatory and restrictive power over its citizens?

I gave you a real-world example of how rent control destroyed the rental housing market in Santa Monica. You ignore the facts and tout massive government power. You provided this link about government altering California lifestyles with legislation. Most freedom-loving people don't want government to "alter" our lifestyles . . . the one's I know anyways.

This rezoning legislation in the L.A. Times link has nothing to do with rent control. Rent control is destructive, and has backfired when and where it was implemented.

It's a bad idea.

You posted your perspective.... Santa Monica has its own dynamics... its a Beach City that exands beyond the beach front. Santa Monica is also adjacent to Pacific Palisades and Brentwood, which is a ultra high dollar areas.

I don't trip about freedom as if its some word that means do anything... I see freedom as a responsibility to live within a society that is governed and if there is something that needs to be addressed, then I do the research to find out the why's before I go trying to pursue any agenda.

 

[braindrain]

Every generation people learn more than the generation before them. I have faith in the future and I have faith in young people because they are the future.
If you don't, that your choice, and if you care to call it nonsense, that too is your choice.

I don't take things for granted, I am not an anti-government person and I do pay attention to the things that are being developed by young people for the future they are creating and building. I don't live in a self encircling pessimism.

I choose "optimism"... and it has continued to serve me well in my living. In my work, I have never in life held a job that I did not "improve its efficiency and productivity. I don't fear change, and I look for ways to build upon things in life.

People are people, some learn and some choose to fight against learning.. some are forced to learn and some pursue learning with a passion to learn more. some suffer the consequences of their resistance to learning.

Yes keep pretending that your ideas will work perfectly once humans stop acting like humans. That should be any day now.

 

[MAGAnificent]

There are factors that the Old Model of Rent Control could modify. It has to be inclusive of "variance" which respond to factors.

The problem with the Old Rent Control. it did not have realistic transistional variances, but we also did not have progressive Property Tax Increase to Tame the madness of Appraisals who submitted themselves to allowing Real Estate Brokers to influence Home Pricing, and that was made into an Atrocity when MBS (Mortgage Back Security) lost control to "greed packaging of loans" and went into "uncontrollable and unregulated greed programming' with wild and crazy "adjustable rates" that led to the massive default cycle that saw itself devastate the Housing Market and the Financial Sector of the economy in 2007.

Rent control under any model will in the long run only drive up the number of investors buying up properties and rent will continue to increase. Rent control should only be used as a last resort and only in the form of temporary laws against price gouging during emergencies, just as when there is a hurricane in my area and some convenience stores take advantage and sell you a $1.29 bag of potato chips for $8.99. When there is no emergency, let the market decide rent. The landlords will charge no more then they can get renters to pay. Permanent rent control policies kill the incentive to do any more then absolutely necessary repairs and improvements. And the conglomerates of landlords/investment companies keep enough politicians in their pockets to get continued rent increases approved. The rent control policies in California are largely responsible for tent cities.

We as a society are already dealing with the principles of "Price Controls" in the Prescription Medicine" sector... they more they learn in this sector, they can use those principles to develop better policy and better legislation to deal with "Pricing Management'.

Trump attempted to enact policies that would bring our prescription medicine prices in line with Canadian prices and the left went ape shit and undid those moves as soon as Dementia Joe took office.

If we get truly and seriously invested in building up the "Consumer Protection Agency" it will be better for the Nations, bring better Stability to Industry and Commercial Business, and be better for general economics, where people can engage more means to patronize more businesses, and when money circulates, within communities and systems several times before it leaves the system for another system.. everything "improves", peoples lives improve, communities improve and cities improve.

Take Banks for reference... When communities utilize them and make deposits, banks remain in communities, they lend within the communities, Its more about the depositis, even if people spend down what they deposit, the banks can still remain because the deposits improve their circulation of money, but when people don't make deposits, banks pack up and leave. Many poor areas, Banks leave, when people don't make deposits, as far too many times in poor areas, people use "money orders' rather than banking and using checks and debit payment programs. The same is true with business in poor areas, when the business does not use the banking system in their community, the banks will pack up and leave. They remain when people use them, because the circulation of money through banks is vital to a banks functions.

I do not disagree with any of that.

 

[RealityNow]

Yes keep pretending that your ideas will work perfectly once humans stop acting like humans. That should be any day now.

Get Real !!!! no one can control the human society .... the best hope we have is for a progressively better educated society. Still, there will be people will abuse knowledge for some of the Seven Deadly Sins.

• That's why we have A Governing System, Governing Principles, Regulatory Statues, Policy Principles, Ordinances, Laws and A System of Penalty.

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People will abuse knowledge for some of Seven deadly sins

• Lust
• Gluttony
• Greed
• Sloth
• Wrath
• Envy
• Pride

Acedia (Latin, acedia "without care") (from Greek ἀκηδία) is the neglect to take care of something that one should do. It is translated to apathetic listlessness; depression without joy. It is related to melancholy; acedia describes the behaviour and melancholy suggests the emotion producing it. In early Christian thought, the lack of joy was regarded as a willful refusal to enjoy the goodness of God. By contrast, apathy was considered a refusal to help others in time of need.

Acēdia is negative form of the Greek term κηδεία (Kēdeia), which has a more restricted usage. 'Kēdeia' refers specifically to spousal love and respect for the dead. The positive term 'kēdeia' thus indicates love for one's family, even through death. It also indicates love for those outside one's immediate family, specifically forming a new family with one's "beloved". Seen in this way, acēdia indicates a rejection of familial love. Nonetheless, the meaning of acēdia is far more broad, signifying indifference to everything one experiences.

------

Vainglory ​

• It is the progenitor of envy

Vanity is the excessive belief in one's own abilities or attractiveness to others.
The Latin term gloria roughly means boasting
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Mankind is a member of the Living Species - known as A Human Being- the highest form of Living Species that we know.

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WITHOUT A Governing System, Governing Principles, Regulatory Statues, Policy Principles, Ordinances, Laws and A System of Penalty. Man will engage Barbarism and become Driven into Savagery.

 

[SkyChief]

You posted your perspective.... Santa Monica has its own dynamics... its a Beach City that exands beyond the beach front. Santa Monica is also adjacent to Pacific Palisades and Brentwood, which is a ultra high dollar areas.

This is a classic red herring. Why would you compare Brentwood and Pacific Palisades to Santa Monica? Neither of those cities have rent control.

I have explained how, over time, rent-control dried up all the rental housing in Santa Monica, and your argument is that the cities of Brentwood and Pacific Palisades have different dynamics? Of course different cities have different dynamics!

Rent Control is destructive to monthly rental housing because it forces landlords to go to yearly leasing which is exempt from rent control.

I don't trip about freedom as if its some word that means do anything... I see freedom as a responsibility to live within a society that is governed and if there is something that needs to be addressed, then I do the research to find out the why's before I go trying to pursue any agenda.

I see Freedom differently. Freedom is something we are born with - - a birthright. People and governments will try to take our freedom, and we must resist, sometimes fight. Otherwise, we end up with mindless sheep who blindly follow orders from a powerful government. Government says "Jump!" and the sheep say Bah-h-h-h-h-h - How high?"

A pitiful existence, IMO.

 

[RealityNow]

Rent control under any model will in the long run only drive up the number of investors buying up properties and rent will continue to increase. Rent control should only be used as a last resort and only in the form of temporary laws against price gouging during emergencies, just as when there is a hurricane in my area and some convenience stores take advantage and sell you a $1.29 bag of potato chips for $8.99. When there is no emergency, let the market decide rent. The landlords will charge no more then they can get renters to pay. Permanent rent control policies kill the incentive to do any more then absolutely necessary repairs and improvements. And the conglomerates of landlords/investment companies keep enough politicians in their pockets to get continued rent increases approved. The rent control policies in California are largely responsible for tent cities.

Trump attempted to enact policies that would bring our prescription medicine prices in line with Canadian prices and the left went ape shit and undid those moves as soon as Dementia Joe took office.

I do not disagree with any of that.

Housing is part of National Citizens Stability, and National Citizens Stability is critical to a Stable Nation. Until we come to term with that, then we allow "greed" to invade every areas of society.
Just like Prescription Drugs is critical to National Citizen's Health, Hosing is Critical to National Citizens Stability - Those things are worthy of Regulatory Management.

There are many other areas where people can profit, as well as people can profit in Real Estate, but it should not be based on "Gouging Profits". We have enough knowledge to know what is a "Reasonable Profit". when it comes to National Stability and National Security Concerns for Stability within our society.

When programs were instituted to stop Medical Insurance from going crazy with gouging, Regulation were put in place, as to 'Profit %" and above that they had to progressive tax rates on the profit and then they had mandatory rebates for that excessive profit.

People go crazy and think Profit by any means is acceptable, when that is called "Savagery". Just as we have "wage rate for minimum wage, we have interest rates for borrowing, then we have the tools to factor what is "reasonable profit" for the better stability of Nation and Citizens. This craziness of claiming business should charge "anything" they want. Is why we have such economic imbalance and inability to manage inflation.

That's managable more than its unmanagable, and there can be exceptions, what those exceptions would be "I can't say". We have a Consumer Protection Agency, and we have a Management and Budget Agency. They know a lot more about how to deal with it, than the average citizens, who thinks in 'selfish greed based terms"

America and its history of people coming to this country over centuries with a "Get Rich, By Any Means Mentality"... and every man can be his own King, has been a damaging factor that has seen this nation go through too many atrocities and too many 'recessions and depressions" cycles.

It's tanamount to "Gluttony and Starvation" cycles... and we know that produces an Unhealthy Body.

It's no different than Run Away Greed and Recession/Depression cycles and we know that produces and unstable and unhealthy society and unstable Nation.


Freedom is not what you think. If you want to think "Freedom", think first about "RESPONSIBILITY".

When does a parent give a child freedom? It's simply, the more responsible that child is, the more Freedom it is afforded and that means Responsibility to respect Principles, Policies, Regulations, Ordinance, and Laws. Those who fail to do that, and the child who ignores Responsibility end up as a child that is headed to become "Prison Bound".

 

[braindrain]

Get Real !!!! no one can control the human society .... the best hope we have is for a progressively better educated society. Still, there will be people will abuse knowledge for some of the Seven Deadly Sins.

• That's why we have A Governing System, Governing Principles, Regulatory Statues, Policy Principles, Ordinances, Laws and A System of Penalty.

-----------------------------------------------------------

People will abuse knowledge for some of Seven deadly sins

• Lust
• Gluttony
• Greed
• Sloth
• Wrath
• Envy
• Pride

Acedia (Latin, acedia "without care") (from Greek ἀκηδία) is the neglect to take care of something that one should do. It is translated to apathetic listlessness; depression without joy. It is related to melancholy; acedia describes the behaviour and melancholy suggests the emotion producing it. In early Christian thought, the lack of joy was regarded as a willful refusal to enjoy the goodness of God. By contrast, apathy was considered a refusal to help others in time of need.

Acēdia is negative form of the Greek term κηδεία (Kēdeia), which has a more restricted usage. 'Kēdeia' refers specifically to spousal love and respect for the dead. The positive term 'kēdeia' thus indicates love for one's family, even through death. It also indicates love for those outside one's immediate family, specifically forming a new family with one's "beloved". Seen in this way, acēdia indicates a rejection of familial love. Nonetheless, the meaning of acēdia is far more broad, signifying indifference to everything one experiences.

------

Vainglory ​

• It is the progenitor of envy

Vanity is the excessive belief in one's own abilities or attractiveness to others.
The Latin term gloria roughly means boasting
----------------

Mankind is a member of the Living Species - known as A Human Being- the highest form of Living Species that we know.

______________

WITHOUT A Governing System, Governing Principles, Regulatory Statues, Policy Principles, Ordinances, Laws and A System of Penalty. Man will engage Barbarism and become Driven into Savagery.

When your ideas depend on humans to not act like humans it is a guaranteed recipe for failure. But I noticed that doesn’t stop you from pushing for them.

Similar to how despite all the past examples of rent control having crappy results you are just convinced it will be different this time.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Housing is part of National Citizens Stability, and National Citizens Stability is critical to a Stable Nation. Until we come to term with that, then we allow "greed" to invade every areas of society.

No matter how you attempt to spend it, rent control is an authoritarian policy. The only effective means of rent control is allowing market forces to work. Landlords will charge only what the market will bare. Example, If I bought another house and rented out the one I am residing in now, I would set the rental price at whatever i could reasonable expect a prospective tenant would be willing to pay. If I charge more, I will be paying property taxes on an empty rental. No profit in that.

Just like Prescription Drugs is critical to National Citizen's Health, Hosing is Critical to National Citizens Stability - Those things are worthy of Regulatory Management.

Which does not working a capitalistic society. It never has.

There are many other areas where people can profit, as well as people can profit in Real Estate, but it should not be based on "Gouging Profits". We have enough knowledge to know what is a "Reasonable Profit". when it comes to National Stability and National Security Concerns for Stability within our society.

When programs were instituted to stop Medical Insurance from going crazy with gouging, Regulation were put in place, as to 'Profit %" and above that they had to progressive tax rates on the profit and then they had mandatory rebates for that excessive profit.

Programs instituted to stop Medical Insurance from going crazy with gouging? You mean Obamacare? How has that worked out? Unless you are one of the relatively few super-subsidized, the cost of health insurance immediately skyrocketed and has gone nothing but up since. Basically the population is getting gouged on medical insurance with government approval.

America and its history of people coming to this country with a "Get Rich, By Any Means Mentality"... has been a damaging factor that has seen this nation go through too many 'recessions and depressions".

Really? So damaging that the USA is the most successful economy that has ever existed on this planet? As for recessions and depressions, they are generally caused by greedy politicians spending too much taxpayer money.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Every generation people learn more than the generation before them. I have faith in the future and I have faith in young people because they are the future.
If you don't, that your choice, and if you care to call it nonsense, that too is your choice.

"I hear babies cry, I watch them grow.

They'll learn much more than I'll ever know.

And I think to myself what a wonderful world"

------ Louis Armstrong.

 

[RealityNow]

This is a classic red herring. Why would you compare Brentwood and Pacific Palisades to Santa Monica? Neither of those cities have rent control.

I have explained how, over time, rent-control dried up all the rental housing in Santa Monica, and your argument is that the cities of Brentwood and Pacific Palisades have different dynamics? Of course different cities have different dynamics!

Rent Control is destructive to monthly rental housing because it forces landlords to go to yearly leasing which is exempt from rent control.

I see Freedom differently. Freedom is something we are born with - - a birthright. People and governments will try to take our freedom, and we must resist, sometimes fight. Otherwise, we end up with mindless sheep who blindly follow orders from a powerful government. Government says "Jump!" and the sheep say Bah-h-h-h-h-h - How high?"

A pitiful existence, IMO.

You are welcome to go find a country that you don't have to live under Governance. Absolutely, no one is stopping you from leaving in pursuit of that.

People make themselves "sheep" when they chose to identify themselves by Political Party devotion.

Rational Human Being know they are both a mixture of Liberal and Conservative - because that what composes "Responsibility".

 

[RealityNow]

No matter how you attempt to spend it, rent control is an authoritarian policy. The only effective means of rent control is allowing market forces to work. Landlords will charge only what the market will bare. Example, If I bought another house and rented out the one I am residing in now, I would set the rental price at whatever i could reasonable expect a prospective tenant would be willing to pay. If I charge more, I will be paying property taxes on an empty rental. No profit in that.

Which does not working a capitalistic society. It never has.

Programs instituted to stop Medical Insurance from going crazy with gouging? You mean Obamacare? How has that worked out? Unless you are one of the relatively few super-subsidized, the cost of health insurance immediately skyrocketed and has gone nothing but up since. Basically the population is getting gouged on medical insurance with government approval.

Really? So damaging that the USA is the most successful economy that has ever existed on this planet? As for recessions and depressions, they are generally caused by greedy politicians spending too much taxpayer money.

You said:

• I would set the rental price at whatever i could reasonable expect a prospective tenant would be willing to pay. If I charge more, I will be paying property taxes on an empty rental. No profit in that.

That's called "RESPONSIBILITY"

You said:

• As for recessions and depressions, they are generally caused by greedy politicians spending too much taxpayer money.

That's called "BULLSHIT"

NO white people thought that, when tax money and tax benefit were used predominantly to help "white people"... that only became the "spin drama" when government programing began to help minorities and single women... with the same equal it would help "white people in general".

Did you consider it greedy or wasteful when tax money built parks and swimming pools in "white only communities" and "built nothing of the sorts in black communities"? or did you consider it greed or wasteful when there were "signs in public parks said "white only", or did you consider it greed or wasteful when white communities got well paved roads and black communities got gravel or tar dirt mixture? Did you consider it greedy and wasteful when public facilities had men and women restrooms for white people, and a single restroom for black people (if it had a rest room at all for black people). did you consider it greed or wasteful when there were well built white schools and underbuild and underprovided for black schools.

NOPE... you loved the government for what it provided to "white only".

As to ACA (Affordable Care Act) if you don't understand it, that's your problem, because the Legislation as Law has been on the books for more than a decade and its "free to be read by anyone who wants to read it". Which, we know you have not read it. But, I bet you will darn sure appreciate the fact that any pre-existing conditions won't cause you to be denied coverage. I bet you like that Medicare Part A is provided at no cost, and the cost for Part B is very low comparted to the cost of Insurance for people who have not reached age 65, and I bet you love the fact that you get a Social Security Check every month, and you'd raise hell if the check did not arrive on time or the auto deposit did not land in your bank account on schedule.

 

[SkyChief]

You are welcome to go find a country that you don't have to live under Governance. Absolutely, no one is stopping you from leaving in pursuit of that.

There are countries where the government tells you how to think, what to wear - - even how to cut your hair. North Korea has pre-selected some "authorized" hairstyles that citizens may choose from.

Maybe you might prefer North Korea. (?)

People make themselves "sheep" when they chose to identify themselves by Political Party devotion.

No. Sheep are people who cannot think for themselves. Passive herd behavior of people easily controlled by a governing power - sheep (people) will go exactly where they are led. Sheep have nothing to do with party affiliation, as you claim. You sure have some odd ideas about things.

Rational Human Being know they are both a mixture of Liberal and Conservative - because that what composes "Responsibility".

Oh dear.

 

[MAGAnificent]

ou said:

• I would set the rental price at whatever i could reasonable expect a prospective tenant would be willing to pay. If I charge more, I will be paying property taxes on an empty rental. No profit in that.

That's called "RESPONSIBILITY"

It's also called market forces. I would be an idiot to charge more for rent then potential tenants are able or willing to pay. Too much greed kills businesses. If you open a donut shop and charge twice as much as nearby donut shops, you will not remain in business very long.

You said:

• As for recessions and depressions, they are generally caused by greedy politicians spending too much taxpayer money.

That's called "BULLSHIT"

If only you understood.

 

[RealityNow]

There are countries where the government tells you how to think, what to wear - - even how to cut your hair. North Korea has pre-selected some "authorized" hairstyles that citizens may choose from.

Maybe you might prefer North Korea. (?)

No. Sheep are people who cannot think for themselves. Passive herd behavior of people easily controlled by a governing power - sheep (people) will go exactly where they are led. Sheep have nothing to do with party affiliation, as you claim. You sure have some odd ideas about things.

Oh dear.

You said:
Sheep are people who cannot think for themselves. Passive herd behavior of people easily controlled by a governing power - sheep (people) will go exactly where they are led.
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Yes, and we saw them Attack the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6th, 2021 in pursuit to enact a Coup D'etat to show worship to the man who led them to do so.

We've seen many of them, already saying, they did not know what they were doing they were folling instructions, and other saying they did not know what they were doing that they got caught up in the drama, incitement and madness, and others saying they were misled and through their confusion they followed what they were misled to follow.

We still see some of them "chasing any conspiracy and being led to try and blame anything and everything except themselves.

 

[RealityNow]

It's also called market forces. I would be an idiot to charge more for rent then potential tenants are able or willing to pay. Too much greed kills businesses. If you open a donut shop and charge twice as much as nearby donut shops, you will not remain in business very long.

If only you understood.

Maybe you should learn more about who you vote for... It was Republicans that led us and wrapped us in Wars on Two Lands, and war conflicts that lasted 20yrs at extremly high debt cost. It was also Republican Administration that saw us with Economic Crash in 2007.

If only you'd open your eyes and mind and face the truth, you'd understand.

 

[Noodlegawd]

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It's time for RENT CONTROLS and Other Category of PRICE CONTROLS

Domestic and Foreign Investor are buying up property all across America and 'GOUGING" American Citizens on Rents. These firms who have expanded their outreach to buy up properties not only drive up the cost to acquire property, they follow that up with extremely high "Rent Increases".

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Coral Gables Woman Hit With 106%Rent Increase After Property Sold To New Landlord: ‘I Couldn’t Believe It​

She never dreamt of leaving on LeJeune Road in Coral Gables. But last month, on March 24, a letter from her new landlord changed everything.

“It was a big sticker shock,” added Espinoza. “I couldn’t believe it. When I saw the letter, I couldn’t believe it.”

Espinoza’s rent jumped from $1,700 to $3,500 under the new landlords – a 106% increase.
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It's going to take "young people" to fix this problem and create ways to impose price controls.

*Older Republican white people complain about inflation but still "worship the wealthy gouging the public"​

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Young people are much smarter and much more aware of the abuses that is created by "worshiping the wealthy" and "supporting corporate gouging".

*Older people are not even aware that there are foreign and domestic investors involved in "rent gouging" as their new means to fleece the public.​

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Corporate landlords are gobbling up U.S. suburbs. These homeowners are fighting back.​

Her 3-bedroom 2-bath house with vinyl siding had never attracted so many admirers. Every week, the mail brought more postcard offers: Sell now! Will buy as is! Everyone in the neighborhood was getting them.
To Valerie Hamilton, then president of the Potters Glen Homeowners Association, it didn’t sit right. Already, more than 20 homeowners in her Charlotte neighborhood had sold out to investors and their houses had been quickly converted to rentals.
“We were being bombarded,” Hamilton said.
Like hundreds of communities across the United States, Hamilton’s neighborhood had become the target of large companies amassing empires of suburban homes for rent. Since the Great Recession, when millions of Americans lost their homes to foreclosure, these companies have been expanding their portfolios of tens of thousands of single-family houses, a disproportionate number of them located in majority-Black neighborhoods like Potters Glen.


The rise of investor purchases has spawned complaints that the companies, flush with Wall Street money, are pricing out first-time home buyers and renting to tenants who have not been properly screened. In Potters Glen, one house owned by Invitation Homes, a $24 billion company created by a Wall Street firm, drew several reports of illegal drugs and gunfire, according to police reports and neighbors.
Facing the influx, Hamilton started asking: “Can’t we stop them?”
The answer, it turns out, appears to be yes.
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Many people who don't read... result to be caught in the middle of madness, before they become aware of what it taking place. Then they want to blame someone else, because they did not pay attention and understand what was taking place.

Wall Street Investors DON'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE OR SOCIETY they only care about "profit by any means".

Young people know that there are many things in life that is more important than "chasing money by any means with regard for nothing". They've shown their knowledgable awarness of the importance of life is far greater than chasing money by any means; by walking away from jobs that don't respect employees and don't respect compensating their work to a level to meet basic living standards.

• Young people simply don't have a "worship the wealthy mentality" that the baby boomer and the baby boomers first generation of offsprings were groomed to worship.

1946 - 1964, consider yourself a Baby Boomer
1965 - 1980, consider yourself Generation X
1981 - 1996 consider yourself Millenial
1997 -2010 consider yourself Generation Z
2011 -2025 consider this as Generation Alpha

You have the power. Get a million of your best friends, go buy up property, and rent it out at below market rates.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Maybe you should learn more about who you vote for... It was Republicans that led us and wrapped us in Wars on Two Lands, and war conflicts that lasted 20yrs at extremly high debt cost. It was also Republican Administration that saw us with Economic Crash in 2007.

If only you'd open your eyes and mind and face the truth, you'd understand.

You are too partisan on that claim to be taken too seriously. I dislike RINOs as much as I dislike libruls in office. I am not a republican. I am a conservative independent.. As for the market crash in 2007, the only connection it had to a republican president was that a republican was in office at the time. However the blame for that crash not republican policy. It was democrat policy. The roots go all the way back to the Community Reinvestment Act signed into law by former President Jimmy Carter. It may have been well intentioned, however it pushed banks and mortgage companies to in too many cases, ignore the usual points system of credit worthiness and award loans to low income individuals who could not realistically be expected to pay them off. Ultimately it led to the creation of quasi government mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie mac guaranteeing so toxic loans, then cooking the books to hide profit losses when so many of the loans went south. The president in office at the time of the crash that you want to blame did see it coming and tried to head it off, however he was blocked by powerful democrats:

 

[HikerGuy83]

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America, has been overdue for a change... especially when it comes to economic and better understanding of "Capitalism". Capitalism was never designed to "fleece the people". It is a "monetary system" created to funcion by the usage of "Denominal Currency".
The creation of "Denominational Currency" was to facilitate a "Medium of Exchange".

Greed is what bastardized the concept and ideology of what "Capitalism" is. It was never about "Greed By Many Means and Hoarding"..
When Denominal Currency circulates, its the functional process which respects the principle of its valuation.
supply and demand paradigm must be changed. to 'increase supply when demand increase" NOT increse cost and curtail supply.

The young will not fight against that paradigm change. They use technology to improve supply, they have create new means or production and continue to develop new means of production, and they intergrate the usage of robotics in the process, and they will add in more robotics to ensure that supply can be scaled up with more rapid efficiency, when demand increases, which keeps prices with stability, and that helps preserve the "valuation of "Denominational Currency" where our system of exchange can function without exaggerated greed based inflation.

Critical think this.

Just like gasoline prices and all the morons who wanted to go after oil companies for "arbitrarily" raising prices. They charge what people are willing to pay.

Rent only goes up if someone is willing to pay it. The lady who got the 106% increase should thank her lucky stars for the time that she got to live in the place being severely UNDERCHARGED relative to what the market ill bare.

That, or the landlord is going to find that he/she is going to have a hard time renting that place for 3,500.

Supply/Demand......it's that simply.

Rent controls are just another hubris laden effort by benevolent morons in government to appease those who don't like where market forces are taking things.