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It's the Women, Stupid

VanceMack said:
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There was no personal attack. There was a very direct question asked. Which facts do you dispute...that Bill Clinton has a history of accusations of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment or that Hillary Clinton has spent 40+ years knowingly attacking the victims of her husbands violent sexual assaults? You are very keen on engaging, but not very keen on answering the question.
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either go back through the thread and deal with your own quotes and your conclusions or move on

it is that simple...
 
_Sal said:
either go back through the thread and deal with your own quotes and your conclusions or move on

it is that simple...
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Again...your refusal to answer the question truly says it all.
 
_Sal said:
can't defend all of your conclusive emotional outbursts above...

it's okay, we understand
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Thats a very sad attempt at diversion. The direct fact remains. You REFUSE adamantly to answer a direct question. And you have spent numerous posts doing so. Which really...be honest...pretty much answers the question completely.
 
VanceMack said:
Which 'facts' do you dispute...that Bill Clinton has been accused on NUMEROUS occasions of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment or that Hillary Clinton has spent 40 years attacking the victims of her husbands rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment?


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Get your facts straight before spewing your nonsense. One rape accusation, no less by a woman who swore under oath no such thing happened previously, and two harassment complaints, one of which had no direct evidence. The other Ken Starr found lied under oath!

Now with Trump, there are two rape allegations, one by his ex wife, one by a 13 year old girl. The 13 year old, has a witness and the incident happened in the company of a proven pedophile. Plus Bill isn't running for office. So of course in your mind, Clinton is guilty, despite shaky evidence and Trump not, despite there being fairly compelling evidence. Your standard is different for your side and therefore your argument holds no water or credibility.
 
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code1211 said:
The opposing case was pretty well represented, too.
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Sure, it was kind of funny--BJ isn't sex. :lol: I got a kick out of it.

But, it is telling that Bill would not **** that crazy bitch. The man has standards after all.

ANd, she was crazy. Who else saves a cum stained dress in their closet for well over a year. Tell me she wasn't either crazy like a fox, setting him up, or just plain kray kray.
 
markjs said:
Get your facts straight before spewing your nonsense. One rape accusation, no less by a woman who swore under oath no such thing happened previously, and two harassment complaints, one of which had no direct evidence. The other Ken Starr found lied under oath!

Now with Trump, there are two rape allegations, one by his ex wife, one by a 13 year old girl. The 13 year old, has a witness and the incident happened in the company of a proven pedophile. Plus Bill isn't running for office. So of course in your mind, Clinton is guilty, despite shaky evidence and Trump not, despite there being fairly compelling evidence. Your standard is different for your side and therefore your argument holds no water or credibility.
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1- I defy you to find a single post where I have said Trumps accusers are not to be believed.
2-Juanita Broderick quite clearly explains why she did what she did and if you know anything about women that have been raped and threatened you would know what she has said is consistent. Kathleen Wiley was sexually assaulted. Paula Jones was sexually harassed. But theres MANY more And throughout 40+ years Hillary Clinton has been right there attacking his accusers. That is why the Clinton sexual attacks are relevant today.
 
VanceMack said:
1- I defy you to find a single post where I have said Trumps accusers are not to be believed.
2-Juanita Broderick quite clearly explains why she did what she did and if you know anything about women that have been raped and threatened you would know what she has said is consistent. Kathleen Wiley was sexually assaulted. Paula Jones was sexually harassed. But theres MANY more And throughout 40+ years Hillary Clinton has been right there attacking his accusers. That is why the Clinton sexual attacks are relevant today.
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Relevant to Trumptards, and nobody else. Hard to blame ya though, with a sociopathic, narcissistic, arguably racist, no policy blowhard for a candidate, there is no defending him without diversion.

Hard to believe Hillary is the better choice, but in this case, by a long shot. Too bad Bernie didn't win the primaries, because there isn't a Republican alive could have beaten him.
 
markjs said:
Relevant to Trumptards, and nobody else. Hard to blame ya though, with a sociopathic, narcissistic, arguably racist, no policy blowhard for a candidate, there is no defending him without diversion.

Hard to believe Hillary is the better choice, but in this case, by a long shot. Too bad Bernie didn't win the primaries, because there isn't a Republican alive could have beaten him.
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That you dont find it relevant speaks volumes as to just who and what you are. No hiding from that for you I'm afraid.
 
markjs said:
Relevant to Trumptards, and nobody else. Hard to blame ya though, with a sociopathic, narcissistic, arguably racist, no policy blowhard for a candidate, there is no defending him without diversion.

Hard to believe Hillary is the better choice, but in this case, by a long shot. Too bad Bernie didn't win the primaries, because there isn't a Republican alive could have beaten him.
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And yet...Bernie Sanders was so weak he couldnt even beat Hillary. See...thats just how silly your arguments are.
 
EvaPeron said:
In my eyes, only a buffoon insults a class of people because they don't support the same opinion.
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Incorrect. An intelligent person can insult a class of people that supports cannibalism, for instance.

And BTW I do have a college education - a complete one that includes the understanding that educated people don't have to call people names to get their points across.
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Which class were you taught that you don't have to call people names to get your point across?
 
Bodhisattva said:
Incorrect. An intelligent person can insult a class of people that supports cannibalism, for instance.



Which class were you taught that you don't have to call people names to get your point across?
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I'm still trying to figure out what Eva meant when she said she learned to keep it in her pants back in one of the Bill Clinton is a Horn Dog threads.
 
calamity said:
... earned 75% what women earned...
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Untrue.



calamity said:
... are the victims of rape 90% of the time that there is a reported rape,
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Reported?
Nice try at a caveat. iLOL


Then there is this.




calamity said:
suffered 85% of the domestic violence assaults,
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Women are as violent if not more so when it comes to domestic violence. They just lack the strength to do as much damage as men do.


The Surprising Truth About Women and Violence

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... it turned out that women were as likely as men to initiate violence—a finding confirmed by more than 200 studies of intimate violence. In a 2010 review essay in the journal Partner Abuse, Straus concludes that women’s motives for domestic violence are often similar to men’s, ranging from anger to coercive control.

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The Surprising Truth About Women and Violence​


Woman As Aggressor: The Unspoken Truth Of Domestic Violence

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From this information researchers found that of the 18,761 relationships, 76 percent were non-violent and 24 percent were violent. Of the 24 percent that were violent, half had been reciprocal and half had not — reciprocal meaning there was violence inflicted by both partners. Although more men than women (53 percent versus 49 percent) had experienced nonreciprocal violent relationships, more women than men (52 percent versus 47 percent) had taken part in ones involving reciprocal violence.

This statistic was undoubtedly the most striking: in committing acts of domestic violence, more women than men (25 percent versus 11 percent) were responsible. In fact, in the 71 percent of nonreciprocal partner violence instances, the instigator was the woman. This flies in the face of the long-held belief that female aggression in a relationship is most often predicated on self-defense.

Further, while injury was more likely when violence was perpetrated by men, in relationships that featured reciprocal violence men were injured more often (25 percent of the time) than women (20 percent of the time).

[...]

The Department of Psychology at California State University, Long Beach, compiled a bibliography that examined 286 scholarly investigations, 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses demonstrating that which we are reluctant to discuss — the uncomfortable reality that women are as physically aggressive, or even more so, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners.

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Woman As Aggressor: The Unspoken Truth Of Domestic Violence​



calamity said:
... the Breitbart media bubble they live in is completely out of touch with reality, this is it.
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Thanks for demonstrating how out of touch you are with the reality of what has been reported in the media.
 
Excon said:
Untrue.



Reported?
Nice try at a caveat. iLOL


Then there is this.




Women are as violent if not more so when it comes to domestic violence. They just lack the strength to do as much damage as men do.


The Surprising Truth About Women and Violence

[...]

... it turned out that women were as likely as men to initiate violence—a finding confirmed by more than 200 studies of intimate violence. In a 2010 review essay in the journal Partner Abuse, Straus concludes that women’s motives for domestic violence are often similar to men’s, ranging from anger to coercive control.

[...]

​
​
The Surprising Truth About Women and Violence​


Woman As Aggressor: The Unspoken Truth Of Domestic Violence

[...]

From this information researchers found that of the 18,761 relationships, 76 percent were non-violent and 24 percent were violent. Of the 24 percent that were violent, half had been reciprocal and half had not — reciprocal meaning there was violence inflicted by both partners. Although more men than women (53 percent versus 49 percent) had experienced nonreciprocal violent relationships, more women than men (52 percent versus 47 percent) had taken part in ones involving reciprocal violence.

This statistic was undoubtedly the most striking: in committing acts of domestic violence, more women than men (25 percent versus 11 percent) were responsible. In fact, in the 71 percent of nonreciprocal partner violence instances, the instigator was the woman. This flies in the face of the long-held belief that female aggression in a relationship is most often predicated on self-defense.

Further, while injury was more likely when violence was perpetrated by men, in relationships that featured reciprocal violence men were injured more often (25 percent of the time) than women (20 percent of the time).

[...]

The Department of Psychology at California State University, Long Beach, compiled a bibliography that examined 286 scholarly investigations, 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses demonstrating that which we are reluctant to discuss — the uncomfortable reality that women are as physically aggressive, or even more so, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners.

[...]​

Woman As Aggressor: The Unspoken Truth Of Domestic Violence​



Thanks for demonstrating how out of touch you are with the reality of what has been reported in the media.
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:lamo
 
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calamity said:
Trump is sunk. Why?

Women.

Election Update: Women Are Defeating Donald Trump | FiveThirtyEight



In other words, even though enough men are still dumb enough to easily hand a buffoon the presidency, women by are are not quite that stupid.
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This is definitely an interesting event. I heard and actually believe a polling outlet that said typically, when a group is being demeaned or in this case, pointed out by the opposite party of being against a candidate like a Trump who is see by many as a womanizer or such, that those who would and will vote for him do not acknowledge it.

I feel that is what is going to happen here in this election. Many women who are asked are either not answering or not saying how they really feel because they feel opposite of what they perceive others in their gender believe. Now, I know that us women on this site are certainly willing and eager to speak our minds, but many women are hesitate and just keep the truth to themselves.

We shall see in a few more weeks.
 
Henrin said:
The real issue is that the way women approach politics it allows the government to grow massive while still being able to claim that they care. When men want power they just come out and say something that makes everyone know it, but when women want power they make it into some caring mission that leaves people thinking it is for their own good.
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I'm just going to have to say that makes no sense to me. I think just as many men use the guise of caring to gain votes. It isn't just a lady thing - sorry to point out the obvious.
 
EvaPeron said:
This is definitely an interesting event. I heard and actually believe a polling outlet that said typically, when a group is being demeaned or in this case, pointed out by the opposite party of being against a candidate like a Trump who is see by many as a womanizer or such, that those who would and will vote for him do not acknowledge it.

I feel that is what is going to happen here in this election. Many women who are asked are either not answering or not saying how they really feel because they feel opposite of what they perceive others in their gender believe. Now, I know that us women on this site are certainly willing and eager to speak our minds, but many women are hesitate and just keep the truth to themselves.

We shall see in a few more weeks.
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calamity said:
Sure, it was kind of funny--BJ isn't sex. :lol: I got a kick out of it.

But, it is telling that Bill would not **** that crazy bitch. The man has standards after all.

ANd, she was crazy. Who else saves a cum stained dress in their closet for well over a year. Tell me she wasn't either crazy like a fox, setting him up, or just plain kray kray.
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Perhaps she read newspapers and knew what her fate would be if she did not preserve proof. How many Clinton accusers were already out there? 10 or so?

How many were there that never came forward? It's hard to imagine that 100% of the "bimbos" wanted to be subjected to the pillory?

The Clinton attack machine was put in motion to systematically create the image of these women that you have just, once again, projected and then went on to trash them and their lives.

Does any run of the mill person know anything about Paula Jones except that she is a Bimbo and will follow currency if it is dragged through a trailer park?

Does any run of the mill person know anything about Monica Lewinsky except that she saved the dress?
 
code1211 said:
Perhaps she read newspapers and knew what her fate would be if she did not preserve proof. How many Clinton accusers were already out there? 10 or so?

How many were there that never came forward? It's hard to imagine that 100% of the "bimbos" wanted to be subjected to the pillory?

The Clinton attack machine was put in motion to systematically create the image of these women that you have just, once again, projected and then went on to trash them and their lives.

Does any run of the mill person know anything about Paula Jones except that she is a Bimbo and will follow currency if it is dragged through a trailer park?

Does any run of the mill person know anything about Monica Lewinsky except that she saved the dress?
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Proof for what?

So, you admit she had designs of going public.
 
calamity said:
Proof for what?

So, you admit she had designs of going public.
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I have nothing to admit. I don't know the woman.

At time of the encounter with Bill that our press tells us was not sexual, she must have been in touch with reality to the point that she knew that as a participant in this action, she was liable to be attacked by the same machine that attacked all of the others.

I don't have designs of driving my car into a wall, but I do carry auto insurance. I don't plan to have a fire in my home or have a break in, but I do carry home owners.

Do you have any insurance of any type? If yes, why?
 
code1211 said:
I have nothing to admit. I don't know the woman.

At time of the encounter with Bill that our press tells us was not sexual, she must have been in touch with reality to the point that she knew that as a participant in this action, she was liable to be attacked by the same machine that attacked all of the others.

I don't have designs of driving my car into a wall, but I do carry auto insurance. I don't plan to have a fire in my home or have a break in, but I do carry home owners.

Do you have any insurance of any type? If yes, why?
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Since she obviously kept her mouth shut when it mattered most, she should have kept it shut later instead of telling Linda Trip and gawd only knows who else that she blew the president. No one would have known about the BJ. Hence, there was no reason to keep the dress.
 
danielpalos said:
i sometimes refuse to even take women seriously, unless they are doing me or can muster a special battalion.
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Pretty much explains why Trump is down 40 points among women.
 
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