It's not red vs. blue, it's the state vs. you. (1 Viewer)

[substantialmajestic]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed. The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

 

[BirdinHand]

Nope.

Not interested in the narcissist who couldn’t handle a loss.

 

[TheGoverness]

You Trump supporters are so ridiculous, and live in a warped dimension. You guys pretend like he's not the one of the biggest frauds on the damn planet. The loyality is straight up ridiculous. He wouldn't drive over you if you were dying, because he wouldn't want to dirty his wheels.

I recommend returning to this planet sometime and getting a reality check when you can, blud.

 

[TheGoverness]

Nope.

Not interested in the narcissist who couldn’t handle a loss.

Who still can't handle that loss.

 

[Irredentist]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed. The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

Trump doesn't have a shred of integrity or empathy whatsoever. The man doesn't care about anyone other than himself. He's not the sort of person you can trust with power.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

When reading stuff like this I still would like an answer to the following question:

Serious question: Why are Trump supporters the way they are?

Think about it. Believing in non-stop conspiracy theories. Sucking up every word he utters as gospel. Getting very angry when any criticism of Trump is made. Constantly trying to deflect criticism with whataboutisms. But worse, becoming insulting and nasty and snarky and spitting nails because...

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[Donatello]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed. The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

There's a whopper. A newbie telling us the Left and the Right hate Trump because "he can easily fix problems". Maybe so, but he can't win a general election because he's a lying gangster with indictments and 91 counts against him. Are his indictments a "problem he can fix quickly"? Or we're you talking about important things like windmill regulation? How will he deal with his legal problems? Think he'll claim fraud?

 

[Rogue Valley]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed. The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

I have no intention of voting for Donald Trump, a racist and bigot who borrows (plagiarizes) from Hitler's Mein Kampf, pushes his Big Lie conspiracy, and instigated a violent Capitol coup on 6 January 2021.

Trump is under 91 felony indictments in four different jurisdictions, and is anathema to democracy. Trumpism is today's American Fascism.

See my siggy.

 

[DCCougar]

The state wants....

"The state" doesn't have a vote. People vote. Unfortunately, a lot of people make the horribly uneducated decision to vote for Trump. What ignorant fools!

 

[mrjurrs]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed. The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

What single economic metric did 4/91 improve over the trend that was created by President Obama and the recovery from 2008? Just one...

 

[Integrityrespec]

You Trump supporters are so ridiculous, and live in a warped dimension. You guys pretend like he's not the one of the biggest frauds on the damn planet. The loyality is straight up ridiculous. He wouldn't drive over you if you were dying, because he wouldn't want to dirty his wheels.

I recommend returning to this planet sometime and getting a reality check when you can, blud.

Will you vote Biden? That's a huge statement about how much anyone really cares about doing the right thing for the nation. The nation overall until the Covid epidemic was far better off than it had been for years and far, far better off than it is now. All I want is a better country and Biden is the cause of whats wrong now.

 

[TheGoverness]

Will you vote Biden?

Of course I will, because the other option is an insane, lunatic fascist that wants to install his own dictatorship and destroy this country.

If it was a banana peel running against Trump, I'd vote for the banana peel in a heartbeat. That's how awful Trump is.

Sorry, I don't live in y'alls orange-colored glasses alternative reality.

 

[Integrityrespec]

When reading stuff like this I still would like an answer to the following question:

Serious question: Why are Trump supporters the way they are?

Think about it. Believing in non-stop conspiracy theories. Sucking up every word he utters as gospel. Getting very angry when any criticism of Trump is made. Constantly trying to deflect criticism with whataboutisms. But worse, becoming insulting and nasty and snarky and spitting nails because...

debatepolitics.com

LOL! Even if you believe, how do you ignore what democrats have done and continue to do. Wasteful spending, unfulfilled decades of promises to black americans, high inflation, hight fuel prices, high prices for every basic stable in our homes, proxy wars costing us billions, a continued divisive campaign to keep us apart, A President that clearly is implicated in the dirty business of his son and family, a President who has spent more time on vacation weekends than any other President. A man with a clear history of racist statements and support for racist policies.
If you hate Trump, fine, but likely Biden is a joke.

 

[MamboDervish]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

Neither of those things is true. Quite the contrary, in fact, it was Biden who finally pulled us out of America's longest war.

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

And again, virtually none of that. He had a chance in his four foundering years to pull our troops out of Central Asia, but instead waited until he has LOST the election, then reduced our Army in Afghanistan to less soldiers than the number of police in Brooklyn - just to poison Biden. All the economic gains he got by just surfing the same wave Obama first put into motion, giving us the longest consecutive string of months of economic growth in the nation's history.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed.

A fevered dream, and a sad one. Trump couldn't even fulfill his own biggest campaign promises, let alone go after any of the nation's pressing issues.

How's his "much better, much cheaper" healthcare working out for you? You know, the one that he promised, after repealing ObamaCare? He promised it in his 2015 campaign, then promised it again in the midterms, and he just promised it yet again a few weeks ago. That just goes to show how much respect he has for his own mindless minions. He knows he can tell you any ****ing lie, and you'll gulp it down, hook, line, sinker, reel and rod!

And how is his southern border wall? You remember - the one that was only going to be "5 billion", then "9" billion, then "12", then "15", then "20 billion dollar$" to complete? What happened? Did Mexico's check get lost in the mail?

How about crooked Hillary ?!!? He promised you a special prosecutor to take her down. Remember? "LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!"


Trump's entire term in office was one abject failure after another, and you bought into it. Not good.

The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

The ACA is so successful, even the state's that were opposed to it refuse to give it up now.
Or didn't you notice?

 

[bongsaway]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed. The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

They, they, they, all bad. Trump good, only he can save america again from all the demons that live inside the heads of republicans.

 

[Visbek]

The state wants Haley or Biden.

Which state? California? Louisiana? Delaware?

Who runs this state? Who manages this state, apparently in total secrecy, despite not having any actual budget?

Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power.

You mean, like how Biden continued the war in Afghanistan? Oh, wait....

Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

You mean, like how Trump promised to build a huge wall on the southwest border and make Mexico pay for it?

Or repeal the ACA?

Or cause 4% GDP growth rates?

Or eliminate the federal deficit? (Reminder: He made it larger, even before the pandemic)

Or how COVID-19 would be over by Easter 2020?

Or how he promised not to play golf while in office?

Or end North Korea's nuclear program?

In case the point isn't clear: Trump did much worse than the average President in terms of delivering his promises.

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars.

Not for lack of trying. During his first 6 months in office, the US military dropped more bombs that Obama did in his entire 1st year in office; he also pointlessly dropped a MOAB in Afghanistan in 2017, and used bombs to assassinate Qasem Soleimani, an Iranian major general.

He fully funded HBCUs

Yeah, not so much.

PolitiFact - Trump’s exaggerated claim that he ‘saved’ HBCUs with 2019 funding bill

President Donald Trump exaggerated his contributions to historically Black colleges and universities during the final pr

www.politifact.com

fought for veteran's benefits

Was that before or after "Private Bone Spurs" insulted veterans, including McCain? Or referring to soldiers as "suckers?"

higher paying manufacturing jobs

lol, no. The rate of adding manufacturing jobs and wage growth for manufacturing was the same, if not slightly lower, than during Obama's term.

better trade deals

lol... Name 3. Then explain how they were better than previous trade deals.

lower gas prices

Yes, because Presidents directly control gas prices. Or is that The State which does it? If so, then why did The State allow gas prices to increase during Biden's term? Aren't they rigging this thing for Biden?

lower inflation

Yes, clearly Biden caused inflation around the entire world by... uh... how did that happen exactly?

lower unemployment

LOL

Egads, not even close. Trump inherited an exceptionally low unemployment rate from Obama. When the pandemic hit, unemployment spiked -- and has fallen almost every month since, and is now at the same rate as the best years during Trump's term. It was 6.2% when Biden came into office, and is now at 3.7%.

But don't let a pesky thing like "facts" get in the way. You certainly haven't so far, why change a losing streak?

, and high stock market gains.

lol... The highest the S&P was during Trump's term was right at the end. It's gone up about 30% since then.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed.

That would be so much more believable, if he actually accomplished anything in office -- other than cutting taxes for the wealthy, and separating immigrant children from their families.

The state will promise you everything without delivering anything.

Did you already forget how many promises Trump made, and failed to deliver?

Please, spare us this nonsense. No matter how you slice it, Trump was the most corrupt and inept President since Grant.

So yeah, what's going on? It is definitely "Red vs Blue."

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

LOL! Even if you believe, how do you ignore what democrats have done and continue to do. Wasteful spending, unfulfilled decades of promises to black americans, high inflation, hight fuel prices, high prices for every basic stable in our homes, proxy wars costing us billions, a continued divisive campaign to keep us apart, A President that clearly is implicated in the dirty business of his son and family, a President who has spent more time on vacation weekends than any other President. A man with a clear history of racist statements and support for racist policies.
If you hate Trump, fine, but likely Biden is a joke.

Nice copy and paste from Fox News. Do you have any original thoughts?

 

[richmondc7]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed. The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

You seem to be forgetting that for 4 yrs Trump was "the state." 10 of his trusted political team are now convicted felons. Biden never got 1,200 people convicted in court with many serving felony sentences of more than 10 years. Trump left us with $7 Trillion in additional national debt. The highest non-war 4 yrs in history. None of what you list as Trump's achievements were his. They were done by the congress. It was not until Biden did we get veterans coverage for burn pit exposure. Biden's added 750,000 mfg jobs in three years without Trump's horrible tariffs. Trump added total 500,000 in 4 yrs. Under Trump the stock market gained 67%. It gained 85% under Obama. Biden was climbing out of the impact of Covid that resulted in higher inflation. Under Biden 14 million new jobs were created. Under Trump 7 million. EASILY FIXED???? Trump never even addressed the border even when he had all three legs of the government. Trump "talked about infrastructure" but did nothing. Under Biden there are 10,000 new fully funded infrastructure projects including all 50 states and the program is now fully rolled out. Biden is bring back chip mfg to the USA. Trump claimed he put tariffs on China. Biden has retained all of them. No new wars under Biden. Trump tried to weaken NATO and made America aligned with Russia. Biden is leading NATO to stop Russian military aggression. NATO has never been more unified or more appreciative of American leadership. Biden has been in office for 44 years without a misdemeanor or criminal charge. Trump was in office 4 years and has 91 felony counts in 3 states and DC and nearly continuous civil trials which he looses. By election time Trump will have lost at least $500 million in payment for civil crimes. Yeah, things look real easy for Trump.

 

[Lursa]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed. The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

Too bad he didnt fix any while in office. He never drained the swamp either. Where was that 'big beautiful health plan' he promised?

 

[Airyaman]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed. The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

 

[Fearandloathing]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed. The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

Your proof?

It's wonderful to have an opinion. But, they are like sphincter muscles. Everyone has one and most stink.

But an informed opinion is something to be listened to, something I've not heard from the American right in at least a decade!

Information is alien to you. If you buy into a guy who tells a thousand lies before breakfast, why would anyone believe you?

I don't.

 

[Grand Mal]

Will you vote Biden? That's a huge statement about how much anyone really cares about doing the right thing for the nation. The nation overall until the Covid epidemic was far better off than it had been for years and far, far better off than it is now.

When Obama was President and Biden was VP.

All I want is a better country and Biden is the cause of whats wrong now.

Trump is the cause. He presided over the country as it swirled down the tubes.
Seems to be recovering nicely now, though, but for some reason millions of Americans want to flush it again.

 

[Divine_Wind]

The state wants Haley or Biden. They don't care which one. Both will continue the endless wars and the money flowing to those in power. Both will make promises to the little people and then say "Ah shucks, we just couldn't do it, maybe next time."

In contrast, President Trump did not send us into any new wars. He fully funded HBCUs, fought for veteran's benefits, higher paying manufacturing jobs, better trade deals, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower unemployment, and high stock market gains.

Both the left and right political class despise President Trump because he exposes how easily problems can be fixed. The state will promise you everything without delivering anything. They advance more checks for new wars immediately though.

"The state"? Is that supposed to be the Jewish Global Conspiracy? Who's in control of "the state"?

Trump is a lying, adulterous, draft-dodging pedophile and traitor. He broke his oath and abused his office last time and promises to do it again. He's unfit to be President. Nikki Haley would restore sanity to the White House.

A lot of Independents like myself don't like liars, traitors, pedophiles and draft-dodging adulterers, so it's more than just the "left and right political class", whoever that is. Is it the Jews again?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

You Trump supporters are so ridiculous, and live in a warped dimension. You guys pretend like he's not the one of the biggest frauds on the damn planet. The loyality is straight up ridiculous. He wouldn't drive over you if you were dying, because he wouldn't want to dirty his wheels.

I recommend returning to this planet sometime and getting a reality check when you can, blud.

What is also true is that you folks are completely ignoring 50+ years of left wing ideas which suggested that mainstream politicians have been the biggest frauds on the damn planet and loyalty to them was straight up ridiculous, and that they wouldn't drive over you if you were dying because they wouldn't want to dirty their wheels.

Was George Bush not a war criminal? Did he not lie us into an illegal war, on knowingly fake claims of WMD in Iraq? Did he not buddy up to Saudi Arabia? Was he not acting on behalf of his friends, like the Cheneys and Big Oil?

Did Johnson not commit war crimes, and get us into a 10 year illegal and undeclared war in Vietnam, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths? Invasion of the Dominican Republic?

Ford - support for Indonesia's invasion of East Timor.

Did Nixon not conduct illegal bombing campaigns in Cambodia and Laos, and escalate the bombing of North Vietnam? His carrying out of actions against Cuba - like poisoning livestock.

Did Reagan not commit war crimes, too, illegally invading Grenada, and waging covert wars in Nicaragua, trading guns for hostages, and the like?

Did Truman not order atomic bombs dropped on cities full of civilians? Did he not create the insurgency campaign in Greece, resulting in the dismantling of their government and the deaths of hundreds of thousands?

Eisenhower? Guatemala? Iran? Lebanon?

Kennedy? The invasion of Cuba was outright aggression. After the invasion of Cuba, Kennedy launched a huge terrorist campaign against Cuba, bombardment of industrial installations with killing of plenty of people, bombing hotels, sinking fishing boats, sabotage.

Bush Sr? How about Panama?

Clinton? How about Haiti, Sudan, Somalia? Iraq? Iran? Kosovo Bombing?

Obama? Libya.... Syria.... Obama approved the use of 563 drone strikes that killed approximately 3,797 people. One of the first CIA drone strikes under President Obama was at a funeral, killing as many as 41 Pakistani civilians.

But....Trump? He's the warmonger? He's the one who is the loose cannon?

LOL

 

[Irredentist]

What is also true is that you folks are completely ignoring 50+ years of left wing ideas which suggested that mainstream politicians have been the biggest frauds on the damn planet and loyalty to them was straight up ridiculous, and that they wouldn't drive over you if you were dying because they wouldn't want to dirty their wheels.

Was George Bush not a war criminal? Did he not lie us into an illegal war, on knowingly fake claims of WMD in Iraq? Did he not buddy up to Saudi Arabia? Was he not acting on behalf of his friends, like the Cheneys and Big Oil?

Did Johnson not commit war crimes, and get us into a 10 year illegal and undeclared war in Vietnam, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths? Invasion of the Dominican Republic?

Ford - support for Indonesia's invasion of East Timor.

Did Nixon not conduct illegal bombing campaigns in Cambodia and Laos, and escalate the bombing of North Vietnam? His carrying out of actions against Cuba - like poisoning livestock.

Did Reagan not commit war crimes, too, illegally invading Grenada, and waging covert wars in Nicaragua, trading guns for hostages, and the like?

Did Truman not order atomic bombs dropped on cities full of civilians? Did he not create the insurgency campaign in Greece, resulting in the dismantling of their government and the deaths of hundreds of thousands?

Eisenhower? Guatemala? Iran? Lebanon?

Kennedy? The invasion of Cuba was outright aggression. After the invasion of Cuba, Kennedy launched a huge terrorist campaign against Cuba, bombardment of industrial installations with killing of plenty of people, bombing hotels, sinking fishing boats, sabotage.

Bush Sr? How about Panama?

Clinton? How about Haiti, Sudan, Somalia? Iraq? Iran? Kosovo Bombing?

Obama? Libya.... Syria.... Obama approved the use of 563 drone strikes that killed approximately 3,797 people. One of the first CIA drone strikes under President Obama was at a funeral, killing as many as 41 Pakistani civilians.

But....Trump? He's the warmonger? He's the one who is the loose cannon?

LOL

The issue with Trump has nothing to do with his policy positions, and everything to do with his personality. He doesn't have a single redeeming human quality whatsoever.