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It's not about the war anymore... it's about lying.

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It's official, Bush lied-people died! It's as simple as that! Just what more proof do you Bushies need? It's not about the war anymore it's about lying, and the liars in the White House who blatently lied to the American people.

Wake-up America!







Book: CIA Ignored Info Iraq Had No WMD

WASHINGTON - A new book on the government's secret anti-terrorism operations describes how the CIA recruited an Iraqi-American anesthesiologist in 2002 to obtain information from her brother, who was a figure in Saddam Hussein's nuclear program.

Dr. Sawsan Alhaddad of Cleveland made the dangerous trip to Iraq on the CIA's behalf. The book said her brother was stunned by her questions about the nuclear program because — he said — it had been dead for a decade.

New York Times reporter James Risen uses the anecdote to illustrate how the CIA ignored information that Iraq no longer had weapons of mass destruction. His book, "State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration" describes secret operations of the Bush administration's war on terrorism.

The major revelation in the book has already been the subject of extensive reporting by Risen's newspaper: the National Security Agency's eavesdropping of Americans' conversations without obtaining warrants from a special court.

The book said Dr. Alhaddad flew home in mid-September 2002 and had a series of meetings with CIA analysts. She relayed her brother's information that there was no nuclear program.

A CIA operative later told Dr. Alhaddad's husband that the agency believed her brother was lying. In all, the book says, some 30 family members of Iraqis made trips to their native country to contact Iraqi weapons scientists, and all of them reported that the programs had been abandoned.

In October 2002, a month after the doctor's trip to Baghdad, the U.S intelligence community issued a National Intelligence Estimate that concluded Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear program...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060103/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cia_iraq
 

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Yeah, fundie conservatives lie. Shrubbie lies. creationists lies. IDers lie, anti-choice misogynists lie. There is nothing new in that. Birds fly, fish swim and conservatives lie. It is the way things are.
 
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It's official, Bush lied-people died! It's as simple as that! Just what more proof do you Bushies need? It's not about the war anymore it's about lying, and the liars in the White House who blatently lied to the American people.

Wake-up America!



Umm where exactly does this article state any lie aside from that I love how your op-ed piece is supposed to make anything official.



Book: CIA Ignored Info Iraq Had No WMD

WASHINGTON - A new book on the government's secret anti-terrorism operations describes how the CIA recruited an Iraqi-American anesthesiologist in 2002 to obtain information from her brother, who was a figure in Saddam Hussein's nuclear program.

Dr. Sawsan Alhaddad of Cleveland made the dangerous trip to Iraq on the CIA's behalf. The book said her brother was stunned by her questions about the nuclear program because — he said — it had been dead for a decade.

New York Times reporter James Risen uses the anecdote to illustrate how the CIA ignored information that Iraq no longer had weapons of mass destruction. His book, "State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration" describes secret operations of the Bush administration's war on terrorism.

The major revelation in the book has already been the subject of extensive reporting by Risen's newspaper: the National Security Agency's eavesdropping of Americans' conversations without obtaining warrants from a special court.

The book said Dr. Alhaddad flew home in mid-September 2002 and had a series of meetings with CIA analysts. She relayed her brother's information that there was no nuclear program.

A CIA operative later told Dr. Alhaddad's husband that the agency believed her brother was lying. In all, the book says, some 30 family members of Iraqis made trips to their native country to contact Iraqi weapons scientists, and all of them reported that the programs had been abandoned.

In October 2002, a month after the doctor's trip to Baghdad, the U.S intelligence community issued a National Intelligence Estimate that concluded Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear program...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060103/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cia_iraq
Umm where exactly does this article state that Bush lied it actually states what we've been saying all along, that the intelligence was faulty, aside from that I love how your op-ed piece on the book by the same guy who leaked classified information and put the lives of the citizenry at risk to hurt the president is supposed to make anything official nice try though get back to me when you have something relevant to say.
 

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Umm where exactly does this article state that Bush lied it actually states what we've been saying all along, that the intelligence was faulty, aside from that I love how your op-ed piece on the book by the same guy who leaked classified information and put the lives of the citizenry at risk to hurt the president is supposed to make anything official nice try though get back to me when you have something relevant to say.
According to the intelligence community, save the puppet Tenet, and the (as of yet) unofficial testimony of Wilson.... or the proven exploitation of the downing street memo and the timely disappearance of Blair....


Common Sense.

Even the Mi6 is on you sycophants.
 
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According to the intelligence community, save the puppet Tenet, and the (as of yet) unofficial testimony of Wilson.... or the proven exploitation of the downing street memo and the timely disappearance of Blair....


Common Sense.

Even the Mi6 is on you sycophants.
Oh wow the famed Downing Street memo, don't make me laugh the downing street memo is the biggest load of B.S. yet to come forth from the anti-war crowd. I've got a memo here that I got from an undisclosed source I made copies returned the original retyped the copies and burned the copies, ya ****ing right.

Oh and Wilson lmfao a man who has made public statements to the effect that: "I would never even vote Republican for dog catcher."

If partisan testimony and forgeries are all you got then you got nothin.

You have not proved that Bush lied in the lead up to war you have not proven anything.
 

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Oh wow the famed Downing Street memo, don't make me laugh the downing street memo is the biggest load of B.S. yet to come forth from the anti-war crowd. I've got a memo here that I got from an undisclosed source I made copies returned the original retyped the copies and burned the copies, ya ****ing right.

Oh and Wilson lmfao a man who has made public statements to the effect that: "I would never even vote Republican for dog catcher."

If partisan testimony and forgeries are all you got then you got nothin.

You have not proved that Bush lied in the lead up to war you have not proven anything.
Careful.


I believe in pacifism... which describes the use of violence as a last resort.... meaning repeated attempts to rectify a situation through diplomacy.

Wilson, well he was an ambassador to the yellow cake..... and you... what or who are you? Ahem!! Sorry I had some phlegm in my throat.

Where is Blair?
 
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Careful.


I believe in pacifism... which describes the use of violence as a last resort.... meaning repeated attempts to rectify a situation through diplomacy.
You sound like Neville Chamberlin when he was appeasing Hitler, and we all know how well that worked out. :roll:
Wilson, well he was an ambassador to the yellow cake..... and you... what or who are you? Ahem!! Sorry I had some phlegm in my throat.
Wilson was an ambassador and that made him qualified in intelligence gathering how exactly?
Where is Blair?
What do you mean where is Blair, Downing Street probably.
 

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You sound like Neville Chamberlin when he was appeasing Hitler, and we all know how well that worked out. :roll:
Read Mein-Kaumpf if you haven't already. If you have any concern for the well being of this nation it will be striking to you. If you do not have any concern for the well being of this nation then I must assume it must be one of your favorites.

Wilson was an ambassador and that made him qualified in intelligence gathering how exactly?
It made him qualified to communicate information, which is the main virtue of intelligence. Honestly I don't expect you to understand that.


What do you mean where is Blair, Downing Street probably.
Blair has not only conceded... word of the wire says he's talking... or is he? Be sure and subscribe to your local paper.
 
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Read Mein-Kaumpf if you haven't already. If you have any concern for the well being of this nation it will be striking to you. If you do not have any concern for the well being of this nation then I must assume it must be one of your favorites.
LMFAO the old Bush is Hitler ploy give me a freaking break when in doubt compare Bush to Hitler do you have anything relevant to the conversation about Bush lying to add or what?

It made him qualified to communicate information, which is the main virtue of intelligence. Honestly I don't expect you to understand that.
I don't expect you understand that Plame sent Wilson to the Sudan to NOT find anything Wilson had no experience in intelligence gathering what he did have experience in is partisan politics and making contributions to the DNC.

Wilson: "did you guys sell Saddam yellow cake?"

Sudanese: "No of course not."

Wilson: "Thanx my flight leaves in an hour.

Blair has not only conceded... word of the wire says he's talking... or is he? Be sure and subscribe to your local paper.
What the hell does this even mean?
 

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LMFAO the old Bush is Hitler ploy give me a freaking break when in doubt compare Bush to Hitler do you have anything relevant to the conversation about Bush lying to add or what?


I don't expect you understand that Plame sent Wilson to the Sudan to NOT find anything Wilson had no experience in intelligence gathering what he did have experience in is partisan politics and making contributions to the DNC.

Wilson: "did you guys sell Saddam yellow cake?"

Sudanese: "No of course not."

Wilson: "Thanx my flight leaves in an hour.



What the hell does this even mean?
Funny the only partisan politics involved came when Bush outed his wife for expressing his opinion. Like I said... you did read Mein-Kaumpf right?

I have no further butter for such toast.
 
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Funny the only partisan politics involved came when Bush outed his wife for expressing his opinion. Like I said... you did read Mein-Kaumpf right?

I have no further butter for such toast.
lmfao that hasn't even been proven yet it was public knowledge that Plame was a CIA agent she wasn't covert.
 

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lmfao that hasn't even been proven yet it was public knowledge that Plame was a CIA agent she wasn't covert.




Her identity was still classified dingleberry.
 

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And when exactly was it proven that the Bush administration leaked that information it was common knowledge?
Maybe we should ask Scooter... he was the one indicted for perjury.... ;)

Good Night Octavian.

I'm going to bed. I would say that you bore me.. but that would be an overstatement.
 
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Maybe we should ask Scooter... he was the one indicted for perjury.... ;)

Good Night Octavian.

I'm going to bed. I would say that you bore me.. but that would be an overstatement.
Oh wait maybe we should ask the reporter who changed his testimony and now states that he did in fact know about Plame before he talked to Libby, and Libby was indicted for outting Plame when exactly? Oh ya he wasn't and neither was anybody else in the Bush administration which just goes to prove my assessment that you have no proof except for partisan rhetoric that Bush lied. You haven't proven a damn thing beating you in debate is like shooting fish in a barrell.
 

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Then what happen to them?
 

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It's official, Bush lied-people died! It's as simple as that! Just what more proof do you Bushies need? It's not about the war anymore it's about lying, and the liars in the White House who blatently lied to the American people.

Wake-up America!







Book: CIA Ignored Info Iraq Had No WMD

WASHINGTON - A new book on the government's secret anti-terrorism operations describes how the CIA recruited an Iraqi-American anesthesiologist in 2002 to obtain information from her brother, who was a figure in Saddam Hussein's nuclear program.

Dr. Sawsan Alhaddad of Cleveland made the dangerous trip to Iraq on the CIA's behalf. The book said her brother was stunned by her questions about the nuclear program because — he said — it had been dead for a decade.

New York Times reporter James Risen uses the anecdote to illustrate how the CIA ignored information that Iraq no longer had weapons of mass destruction. His book, "State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration" describes secret operations of the Bush administration's war on terrorism.

The major revelation in the book has already been the subject of extensive reporting by Risen's newspaper: the National Security Agency's eavesdropping of Americans' conversations without obtaining warrants from a special court.

The book said Dr. Alhaddad flew home in mid-September 2002 and had a series of meetings with CIA analysts. She relayed her brother's information that there was no nuclear program.

A CIA operative later told Dr. Alhaddad's husband that the agency believed her brother was lying. In all, the book says, some 30 family members of Iraqis made trips to their native country to contact Iraqi weapons scientists, and all of them reported that the programs had been abandoned.

In October 2002, a month after the doctor's trip to Baghdad, the U.S intelligence community issued a National Intelligence Estimate that concluded Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear program...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060103/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cia_iraq

That's because the war was never about WMD. It was and still is about a bigger threat. To deal with this very real and bigger threat, a leader of the free world can't get on International television and tell the "truth" while keeping a semblance of diplomacy fro American interests. Most of the work needed in the Middle East will demand our indirect involvement. Indirect involvement that our media and people rush to expose at every turn, because they are too stupid to study the region for themselves. Instead they sit around and wait for equally ignorant reporters to feed them their opinions. The symptoms from the failing civilization in the Middle East is growing and the long term threat is real, yet so many would rather desperately hold to a false peace at the present at the expense of the future. Your children will be greatful for your sacrifice. The ignorance is sickening.
 
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Read Mein-Kaumpf if you haven't already. If you have any concern for the well being of this nation it will be striking to you. If you do not have any concern for the well being of this nation then I must assume it must be one of your favorites.

Sad. With a real threat growing in the Middle East...you resort to American Hilterism and paranoia against Christian armies rising up to make you "believe." The real threat in the Middle East appreciates your ignorance. :roll:
 

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That's because the war was never about WMD. It was and still is about a bigger threat. To deal with this very real and bigger threat, a leader of the free world can't get on International television and tell the "truth" while keeping a semblance of diplomacy fro American interests. Most of the work needed in the Middle East will demand our indirect involvement. Indirect involvement that our media and people rush to expose at every turn, because they are too stupid to study the region for themselves. Instead they sit around and wait for equally ignorant reporters to feed them their opinions. The symptoms from the failing civilization in the Middle East is growing and the long term threat is real, yet so many would rather desperately hold to a false peace at the present at the expense of the future. Your children will be greatful for your sacrifice. The ignorance is sickening.



First, the war was about WMD's, then it wasn't about WMD's. Talk about deadly flip-flop's. Talk about lying!

And now, it's about the free-press?

That's it, attack "Freedom of the Press", so what else is it with you 1st Ammendment-haters. Talk about the "shooting the messenger"!

Thank God America is finally waking up and getting wise to you war-mongers, wising up to you power-driven, power-hungry r-wing extremists!

Wake-up America!
 
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First, the war was about WMD's, then it wasn't about WMD's. Talk about deadly flip-flop's. Talk about lying!

And now, it's about the free-press?

That's it, attack "Freedom of the Press", so what else is it with you 1st Ammendment-haters. Talk about the "shooting the messenger"!

Thank God America is finally waking up and getting wise to you war-mongers, wising up to you power-driven, power-hungry r-wing extremists!

Wake-up America!

LMFAO god I love it when the left trys to rewrite history:

Public Law 107-243
107th Congress
Joint Resolution
Oct. 16, 2002
(H.J. Res. 114) To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq
(1) Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;

(2) Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;

(3) Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated;

(4) Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

(5) Whereas in Public Law 105-235 (August 14, 1998), Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in `material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations' and urged the President `to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations';

(6) Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;

(7) Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolution of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

(8) Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people;

(9) Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

(10) Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

(11) Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens;


(12) Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001, underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;

(13) Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;

(14) Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 (1990) and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security, including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 (1991), repression of its civilian population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 (1991), and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949 (1994);

(15) Whereas in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1), Congress has authorized the President `to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolution 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677;

(16) Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1),' that Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and `constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region,' and that Congress, `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688';

(17) Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;


(18) Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States to `work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common challenge' posed by Iraq and to `work for the necessary resolutions,' while also making clear that `the Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be unavoidable';

(19)Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;

(20) Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

(21) Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

(22) Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and,

(23) Whereas it is in the national security interests of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region:

Now therefore be it,

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
Authorization for use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002.
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First, the war was about WMD's, then it wasn't about WMD's. Talk about deadly flip-flop's. Talk about lying!

And now, it's about the free-press?

That's it, attack "Freedom of the Press", so what else is it with you 1st Ammendment-haters. Talk about the "shooting the messenger"!

Thank God America is finally waking up and getting wise to you war-mongers, wising up to you power-driven, power-hungry r-wing extremists!

Wake-up America!
In the congressional resolution authorizing the use of military force to remove Saddam and his requiem there were I believe 19 reasons and WMD was in the middle.

That being said, if they weren't there then where were they? He had them, so what did he do with them?
 

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First, the war was about WMD's, then it wasn't about WMD's. Talk about deadly flip-flop's. Talk about lying!

And now, it's about the free-press?

That's it, attack "Freedom of the Press", so what else is it with you 1st Ammendment-haters. Talk about the "shooting the messenger"!

Thank God America is finally waking up and getting wise to you war-mongers, wising up to you power-driven, power-hungry r-wing extremists!

Wake-up America!
WMD was a reason, but not the ultimate reason and not the focus. Being the leader of the free world demands a sense of diplomacy. This means lying when it is necessary. When dealing with the Middle East and the very real threat we are facing...the absolute truth is not recommended, because it would do more immediate harm than good. The region from where we must continue to receive oil is not black and white.

"war-mongers, wising up to you power-driven, power-hungry r-wing extremists!" Funny....I remember all of these names being thrown at us when we were in Somali, Haiti, Kosovo, and Bosnia. Except we were under a Democratic President then and it was all about how we were slaves to liberal extremists.:roll:

Learn about the Middle East for yourself and realize the threat and the solution that Iraq and Afghanistan are a part of. Try not to be the "messenger" that merely repeats what he heard or read from ignorant people.

Wake up KidRocks!
 
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In the congressional resolution authorizing the use of military force to remove Saddam and his requiem there were I believe 19 reasons and WMD was in the middle.

That being said, if they weren't there then where were they? He had them, so what did he do with them?
Actuall there were 23 and I already listed them on the last page if your interested as to why the left is full of ****.
 
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Being the leader of the free world demands a sense of diplomacy. This means lying when it is necessary. When dealing with the Middle East and the very real threat we are facing...the absolute truth is not recommended, because it would do more immediate harm than good. The region from where we must continue to receive oil is not black and white.

"war-mongers, wising up to you power-driven, power-hungry r-wing extremists!" Funny....I remember all of these names being thrown at us when we were in Somali, Haiti, Kosovo, and Bosnia. Except we were under a Democratic President then and it was all about how we were slaves to liberal extremists.:roll:

Learn about the Middle East for yourself and realize the threat and the solution that Iraq and Afghanistan are a part of.

Wake up KidRocks!
Don't fall into the whole "Bush lied," premise, it's not true in the first place they found 500 tons of yellow cake in the initial March push into Iraq for Christ's sakes.
 

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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/02/20030205-1.html

Secretary of State Colin Powell Addresses the U.N. Security Council

POWELL: Thank you, Mr. President.

Mr. President, Mr. Secretary General, distinguished colleagues, I would like to begin by expressing my thanks for the special effort that each of you made to be here today.

This is important day for us all as we review the situation with respect to Iraq and its disarmament obligations under U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441.

Last November 8, this council passed Resolution 1441 by a unanimous vote. The purpose of that resolution was to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction. Iraq had already been found guilty of material breach of its obligations, stretching back over 16 previous resolutions and 12 years.

POWELL: Resolution 1441 was not dealing with an innocent party, but a regime this council has repeatedly convicted over the years. Resolution 1441 gave Iraq one last chance, one last chance to come into compliance or to face serious consequences. No council member present in voting on that day had any allusions about the nature and intent of the resolution or what serious consequences meant if Iraq did not comply.

And to assist in its disarmament, we called on Iraq to cooperate with returning inspectors from UNMOVIC and IAEA.

We laid down tough standards for Iraq to meet to allow the inspectors to do their job.

POWELL: This council placed the burden on Iraq to comply and disarm and not on the inspectors to find that which Iraq has gone out of its way to conceal for so long. Inspectors are inspectors; they are not detectives.

I asked for this session today for two purposes: First, to support the core assessments made by Dr. Blix and Dr. ElBaradei. As Dr. Blix reported to this council on January 27th, quote, ``Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance, not even today, of the disarmament which was demanded of it,'' unquote.

And as Dr. ElBaradei reported, Iraq's declaration of December 7, quote, ``did not provide any new information relevant to certain questions that have been outstanding since 1998.''

POWELL: My second purpose today is to provide you with additional information, to share with you what the United States knows about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction as well as Iraq's involvement in terrorism, which is also the subject of Resolution 1441 and other earlier resolutions.

I might add at this point that we are providing all relevant information we can to the inspection teams for them to do their work.

The material I will present to you comes from a variety of sources. Some are U.S. sources. And some are those of other countries. Some of the sources are technical, such as intercepted telephone conversations and photos taken by satellites. Other sources are people who have risked their lives to let the world know what Saddam Hussein is really up to.

I cannot tell you everything that we know. But what I can share with you, when combined with what all of us have learned over the years, is deeply troubling.

POWELL: What you will see is an accumulation of facts and disturbing patterns of behavior. The facts on Iraqis' behavior--Iraq's behavior demonstrate that Saddam Hussein and his regime have made no effort--no effort--to disarm as required by the international community. Indeed, the facts and Iraq's behavior show that Saddam Hussein and his regime are concealing their efforts to produce more weapons of mass destruction.





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