facebook and Instagram have been banning a lot of radical right users; Parler did not, it invited and welcomed them and was a site dedicated to them. It's not 'all' trump's fault, just as the Holocaust wasn't all Hitler's fault. But he wasn't blameless, now, was he? trump is very responsible for the riots.
Kevin McCarthy and others called Trump numerous times during the attempted insurrection and told him to go on the air and say something. He refused to do so when it was at high tide. He did release a hostage video later on when he was told to do so by MeadowsIt's one thing for trump to ask his mob to enter the capitol, and another for him to want them to slaughter Congress. But it's hard to see how anything else makes sense.
It's long been predicted that trump would use any means he could, including violence if he could, trying to stay president. People from Michael Cohen to his niece have warned about how he might do anything if he lost.
So, for weeks after the election, he's claiming he won to his mob. That their election and their country is being stolen and they have to fight to defeat the thieves.
He launches about 60 lawsuits trying to overturn the election, he asks Republican legislatures to overturn it, he has Texas sue other states trying to overturn it, he demands secretaries of states overturn it. It all fails.
Now, he's facing the biggest, last part of the process of Congressional certification of the vote. He asks Pence to simply declare that he's recognizing different electors and that trump won, Pence refuses.
So all trump has left is his mob. He can't get the military to overthrow the election, despite installing loyalists at the Pentagon after he lost. How does he use them?
He calls to all his supporters across the country to come to Washington, D.C. on Jan 6 for a rally, at which he tells them they need to fight and to march on the capitol. But why? What did he hope to get?
What does he gain by having his mob walk around the capitol building, delaying the process for a few hours, and getting them turned into criminals? Did all that effort for the rally and plan to storm the capitol make sense just for some hours of delay?
It's hard to see what that gained him.
On the other hand, if the mob got to Democratic members and slaughtered them - and maybe Mike Pence, why not, then he could appoint Ivanka as VP as he wanted to in the first place - that would really stop the process. Establish him as a 'strongman'. He could disavow responsibility while taking advantage of the chaos for his own benefit.
Any questions about whether he'd do that are answered by the fact of how close that came to happening, while he was thrilled to see the mob trying, marching the halls chanting 'hang Mike Pence' and trying to find members to assassinate, we now know.
It's hard to see his plan as having any other goal than for members to be killed - his 'burn the place down' revenge and his only chance to disrupt the process enough to try to seize continued power.
Doing all that to arrange for the storming of the building just for a few hours' delay makes no sense.
So it's seeming trump deserves to be seen not only for inciting insurrection but inciting assassination, which nearly happened. We now know that Mike Pence was moved from the Senate floor into hiding with his family one minute before the mob reached the door of the floor, and was less than 100 feet from his hiding area.
If you have another theory of what trump's goal by this whole planned operation was, make your case, but I'm not seeing any other goal that makes much sense. Clearly trump did create the danger of assassination and nearly caused it, but it's hard to see how that wasn't his goal.
Add in that his closest allies in Congress were having mob members led around the capitol the day before for recon, and even worse possible plots involving more people are possible.
I think its hard to see for you because you are blindly partisan. Take those goggles off and look again.It's one thing for trump to ask his mob to enter the capitol, and another for him to want them to slaughter Congress. But it's hard to see how anything else makes sense.
It's long been predicted that trump would use any means he could, including violence if he could, trying to stay president. People from Michael Cohen to his niece have warned about how he might do anything if he lost.
So, for weeks after the election, he's claiming he won to his mob. That their election and their country is being stolen and they have to fight to defeat the thieves.
He launches about 60 lawsuits trying to overturn the election, he asks Republican legislatures to overturn it, he has Texas sue other states trying to overturn it, he demands secretaries of states overturn it. It all fails.
Now, he's facing the biggest, last part of the process of Congressional certification of the vote. He asks Pence to simply declare that he's recognizing different electors and that trump won, Pence refuses.
So all trump has left is his mob. He can't get the military to overthrow the election, despite installing loyalists at the Pentagon after he lost. How does he use them?
He calls to all his supporters across the country to come to Washington, D.C. on Jan 6 for a rally, at which he tells them they need to fight and to march on the capitol. But why? What did he hope to get?
What does he gain by having his mob walk around the capitol building, delaying the process for a few hours, and getting them turned into criminals? Did all that effort for the rally and plan to storm the capitol make sense just for some hours of delay?
It's hard to see what that gained him.
On the other hand, if the mob got to Democratic members and slaughtered them - and maybe Mike Pence, why not, then he could appoint Ivanka as VP as he wanted to in the first place - that would really stop the process. Establish him as a 'strongman'. He could disavow responsibility while taking advantage of the chaos for his own benefit.
Any questions about whether he'd do that are answered by the fact of how close that came to happening, while he was thrilled to see the mob trying, marching the halls chanting 'hang Mike Pence' and trying to find members to assassinate, we now know.
It's hard to see his plan as having any other goal than for members to be killed - his 'burn the place down' revenge and his only chance to disrupt the process enough to try to seize continued power.
Doing all that to arrange for the storming of the building just for a few hours' delay makes no sense.
So it's seeming trump deserves to be seen not only for inciting insurrection but inciting assassination, which nearly happened. We now know that Mike Pence was moved from the Senate floor into hiding with his family one minute before the mob reached the door of the floor, and was less than 100 feet from his hiding area.
If you have another theory of what trump's goal by this whole planned operation was, make your case, but I'm not seeing any other goal that makes much sense. Clearly trump did create the danger of assassination and nearly caused it, but it's hard to see how that wasn't his goal.
Add in that his closest allies in Congress were having mob members led around the capitol the day before for recon, and even worse possible plots involving more people are possible.
Mob bosses never specifically order a murder either.
Trump is said to have an IQ of about 78. But that's all a cult leader needs when he's dealing with followers whose IQ hovers around 10 to 20.The one area trump is not an incompetent about is his role as a con man. He tends to understand his suckers very wel
Down, boy! (GROWWFF!)My god Ivanka is gorgeous!
I read Trump is refusing to pay Giuliani his fee.And if there is any doubt about what Donnie Boy and his IDIOT crew were trying to accomplish hurling that mob at the Capital all you have to do is listen to Rudy's audio message left for Tommy Tuberville WHILE the Insurrection was taking place. He lays it out quite plainly though in truth I am sure they were looking to lock up the entire process trying to run out the clock on it. They did not care what was destroyed nor who was injured or killed either, ON EITHER SIDE!!!!
In fact I am sure Trump has thrown Rudy under the bus because Rudy was STUPID enough to leave a taped message instead of talking to Tuberville directly.
Please show the video where Trump tells these crazies to storm the capital and attack police? No, you cannot because he did not.It's one thing for trump to ask his mob to enter the capitol, and another for him to want them to slaughter Congress. But it's hard to see how anything else makes sense.
It's long been predicted that trump would use any means he could, including violence if he could, trying to stay president. People from Michael Cohen to his niece have warned about how he might do anything if he lost.
So, for weeks after the election, he's claiming he won to his mob. That their election and their country is being stolen and they have to fight to defeat the thieves.
He launches about 60 lawsuits trying to overturn the election, he asks Republican legislatures to overturn it, he has Texas sue other states trying to overturn it, he demands secretaries of states overturn it. It all fails.
Now, he's facing the biggest, last part of the process of Congressional certification of the vote. He asks Pence to simply declare that he's recognizing different electors and that trump won, Pence refuses.
So all trump has left is his mob. He can't get the military to overthrow the election, despite installing loyalists at the Pentagon after he lost. How does he use them?
He calls to all his supporters across the country to come to Washington, D.C. on Jan 6 for a rally, at which he tells them they need to fight and to march on the capitol. But why? What did he hope to get?
What does he gain by having his mob walk around the capitol building, delaying the process for a few hours, and getting them turned into criminals? Did all that effort for the rally and plan to storm the capitol make sense just for some hours of delay?
It's hard to see what that gained him.
On the other hand, if the mob got to Democratic members and slaughtered them - and maybe Mike Pence, why not, then he could appoint Ivanka as VP as he wanted to in the first place - that would really stop the process. Establish him as a 'strongman'. He could disavow responsibility while taking advantage of the chaos for his own benefit.
Any questions about whether he'd do that are answered by the fact of how close that came to happening, while he was thrilled to see the mob trying, marching the halls chanting 'hang Mike Pence' and trying to find members to assassinate, we now know.
It's hard to see his plan as having any other goal than for members to be killed - his 'burn the place down' revenge and his only chance to disrupt the process enough to try to seize continued power.
Doing all that to arrange for the storming of the building just for a few hours' delay makes no sense.
So it's seeming trump deserves to be seen not only for inciting insurrection but inciting assassination, which nearly happened. We now know that Mike Pence was moved from the Senate floor into hiding with his family one minute before the mob reached the door of the floor, and was less than 100 feet from his hiding area.
If you have another theory of what trump's goal by this whole planned operation was, make your case, but I'm not seeing any other goal that makes much sense. Clearly trump did create the danger of assassination and nearly caused it, but it's hard to see how that wasn't his goal.
Add in that his closest allies in Congress were having mob members led around the capitol the day before for recon, and even worse possible plots involving more people are possible.
The FBI did not clear Trump in this. If you have a source, it would be nice to see it. Otherwise I'll go with this:FBI says Capitol uprising was several months in the planning. Trump knew nothing.
You are correct, Trump told them to march to protest peaceably and patriotically....they simply LIE, for there is no other word one could use. The left has far, far too much to hide and Trump is getting far too close to all their skeletons, thus the immense hatred. The "Faux Impeachment 2" is only to prevent Trump from running in 2024.
Please show the video where Trump tells these crazies to storm the capital and attack police? No, you cannot because he did not.
BLM Riots: 1 Billion+ in damage, 19 dead, 400 law enforcement officers injured. Can't believe how many people on the left now care about police officers, with all this defund the police, amid all the riots and protests last year. Changing narratives rather quickly when it comes to the Capitol riot. Last year, police bad...this year, police good.
Yup he used the word peaceful once in his incinerarry speech.
While all off his terrorists were setting their bombs, loading their guns, fitting their gas masks and sharpening their spears...
And cultists wonder why intelligent people think they are morons...
Trump's election fraud claims are total lies. There is no credible evidence of Trump's claims.
The same cannot be said of police brutality. There is an abundance of evidence. We all saw what happened to George Floyd with our own eyes. There is a whole list of such incidence we all saw.
In the plausible hypothetical, I know what he had in mind. He wanted dead congressmen, women and Pence, just like you stated. Then he would declare martial law and argue that Antifa did it. Easy peasy in the mind of a simpleton like Trump.
I honestly don't even think Trump spent much thinking about the consequences of his actions. And honestly, that has always been the problem with selfish, short sighted, impulsive people like him. It's all about immediate gratification. Trump wanted images of the Capitol under siege by his mob. Did he contemplate what that actually meant in terms of risk to human life, including his own Vice President? Probably not, because that would require looking outside of himself and that just isn't the kind of man that Trump is.
Agree with you on this. Trump didn't plan for an overthrow using force, he's simply not capable of even that level of planning and execution. But he is a psychotic narcissist and was unable to empathize with those under attack when things got out of hand. There have probably been few if any Presidents who are as dangerous because of his characteristics.
I think this is right. I can’t believe I agree with something that should be insane but the more we find out about what happened and that GOP reps might be involved, I can’t come to any other conclusions.
These ****ers were really coming for it all.
You are correct, it is insane to accuse the President of premeditated murder....please get over yourself, already. There was a huge rally planned and many came in a few days early and made visits to the Capitol, wearing their MAGA gear, nothing unusual here and not illegal.....you leftist are desperate, to find any conspiracy and it's all based on lies, as per the norm. Strangely, the left always does what they accuse others of doing.....they are actively trying to kick out many Congressmen and women for simply having opposing ideas, falsely accusing the President of sedition and insurrection, coming after free speech and crushing all opposition....yes, they are really coming for it all and the gullible are blindly following the take over.....sad and crazy to the nth degree.
Their ”opposing ideas” included overturning a free and fair election, and potentially aiding in the insurrection at the Capitol. The former disqualifies them from ever having a credible voice in our democracy whether their voters agree or not, the latter if proven demands expulsion.
We are a nation of laws, not a nation of “I like laws except when I have an opposing idea to them”.
This is how he turned a $420M inheritance into a $900M loss
We'll soon see if the democrats are for or against voter integrity.....if they quelch any plan of a investigation into the election, we will know their integrity, if good or bad. The simple truth, there are many, many Americans who suspect there was fraud in this election and should be the very first thing done this year to assure voters their vote remains safe and secure. We'll see soon enough.....then we'll know.
The Republicans refuse to appoint a special prosecutor. They demanded one in 2016We'll soon see if the democrats are for or against voter integrity.....if they quelch any plan of a investigation into the election, we will know their integrity, if good or bad. The simple truth, there are many, many Americans who suspect there was fraud in this election and should be the very first thing done this year to assure voters their vote remains safe and secure. We'll see soon enough.....then we'll know.
We'll soon see if the democrats are for or against voter integrity.....if they quelch any plan of a investigation into the election, we will know their integrity, if good or bad. The simple truth, there are many, many Americans who suspect there was fraud in this election and should be the very first thing done this year to assure voters their vote remains safe and secure. We'll see soon enough.....then we'll know.
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