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It's amazing how an election loss, even as big as this one, still doesn't put a dent in the thinking that lost it.

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Warning: Mayer uses the F-word in his commentary.
"It's amazing how an election loss, even as big as this one, still doesn't put a dent in the thinking that lost it."

Bill Mayer, with a very sarcastic tone and lots of hyperbole, nailed why the Democrats lost the election. If they don't change, they keep losing. Isn't this what some of us have been saying to those who continue to double down in the defense of their team? He does not defend Trump or his supporters, just to be clear. He's telling the Democrats to stop digging their holes and learn from their mistakes. The entire party has become nothing but a Portlandia sketch. Take one week to ask what you did wrong.

 
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trixare4kids said:
Warning: Mayer uses the F-word in his commentary.
"It's amazing how an election loss, even as big as this one, still doesn't put a dent in the thinking that lost it."

Bill Mayer, with a very sarcastic tone and lots of hyperbole, nailed why the Democrats lost the election. If they don't change, they keep losing. Isn't this what some of us have been saying to those who continue to double down in their defense of their team? He does not defend Trump or his supporters, just to be clear. He's telling them to stop digging their holes and learn from their mistakes. The entire party has become nothing but a Portlandia sketch. Take one week to ask what you did wrong.

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He's been screaming these things for awhile. I knew even before his first show after the election what he was going to blame the loss on. It's confirmation bias and many are engaging in.
 
trixare4kids said:
Warning: Mayer uses the F-word in his commentary.
"It's amazing how an election loss, even as big as this one, still doesn't put a dent in the thinking that lost it."

Bill Mayer, with a very sarcastic tone and lots of hyperbole, nailed why the Democrats lost the election. If they don't change, they keep losing. Isn't this what some of us have been saying to those who continue to double down in their defense of their team? He does not defend Trump or his supporters, just to be clear. He's telling them to stop digging their holes and learn from their mistakes. The entire party has become nothing but a Portlandia sketch. Take one week to ask what you did wrong.

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Bottom line- voting for Trump was a lot more stupid than voting democrat...........................no one voter should need campaigning to know that
 
trixare4kids said:
Warning: Mayer uses the F-word in his commentary.
"It's amazing how an election loss, even as big as this one, still doesn't put a dent in the thinking that lost it."

Bill Mayer, with a very sarcastic tone and lots of hyperbole, nailed why the Democrats lost the election. If they don't change, they keep losing. Isn't this what some of us have been saying to those who continue to double down in their defense of their team? He does not defend Trump or his supporters, just to be clear. He's telling the Democrats to stop digging their holes and learn from their mistakes. The entire party has become nothing but a Portlandia sketch. Take one week to ask what you did wrong.

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Exactly. Instead of self reflection, they are doubling down on what led them to lose voters in every demographic. A part of me wants them to keep doing that as they will either reamin lost in the woods or go the way of the Whig party.
 
Peter said:
Yes, because Republicans are all about introversion and critical self analysis.

Since when have they ever changed stances due to an election loss?
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It happens. Trump is not the typical establishment republican. he faced significant resistance from republicans in his first term. Many of those establishment republican congress critters have since lost their seats. In the lead up to this election, most of them have fallen in line and support Trump.
 
trixare4kids said:
Warning: Mayer uses the F-word in his commentary.
"It's amazing how an election loss, even as big as this one, still doesn't put a dent in the thinking that lost it."

Bill Mayer, with a very sarcastic tone and lots of hyperbole, nailed why the Democrats lost the election. If they don't change, they keep losing. Isn't this what some of us have been saying to those who continue to double down in the defense of their team? He does not defend Trump or his supporters, just to be clear. He's telling the Democrats to stop digging their holes and learn from their mistakes. The entire party has become nothing but a Portlandia sketch. Take one week to ask what you did wrong.

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He nailed it and has been saying that for a while. Thank God that the left is too 'smart' to listen to him.
 
Peter said:
Yes, because Republicans are all about introversion and critical self analysis.

Since when have they ever changed stances due to an election loss?
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Whataboutism fail. But thanks for admitting that you are no better, smarter or more introspective than the people you hate.
 
MAGAnificent said:
Exactly. Instead of self reflection, they are doubling down on what led them to lose voters in every demographic. A part of me wants them to keep doing that as they will either reamin lost in the woods or go the way of the Whig party.
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Some of us ever before the election gave the warning that they can't keep this up, insulting the electorate, minorities especially. They continued to play their race card, and how'd that work out for them?

Some of us have been saying this in many threads since the election, but it appears to be falling on deaf ears. Maybe it's just this forum where it is loaded with leftwing progressives, the very group Mayer scorns the most.

I see that in other areas across the Net, opinion pieces on Democrat blogs and new sites where there are some more moderate Democrats who are willing to get real, and admit their many mistakes as to why they got their clocks cleaned. They aren't still blaming orange man bad and his voters.

The Democratic Party appears to be in shambles though, so much finger-pointing at one another when in fact, collectively, they are all to blame.
 
trixare4kids said:
Warning: Mayer uses the F-word in his commentary.
"It's amazing how an election loss, even as big as this one, still doesn't put a dent in the thinking that lost it."

Bill Mayer, with a very sarcastic tone and lots of hyperbole, nailed why the Democrats lost the election. If they don't change, they keep losing. Isn't this what some of us have been saying to those who continue to double down in the defense of their team? He does not defend Trump or his supporters, just to be clear. He's telling the Democrats to stop digging their holes and learn from their mistakes. The entire party has become nothing but a Portlandia sketch. Take one week to ask what you did wrong.

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Was it a big loss? Depends on how one defines big. Losing the presidency is big, but in other terms this was one close election. Trump currently leads Harris by 1.8 points in the popular vote. Only 2 elections since 1900 has been closer, 1960 and 2000. Yes, the electoral college was a runaway. The house, the GOP entered this election with a 222-213 advantage. As of this AM, the republicans have a 218-211 lead. 218 gives the GOP control. There’re 6 seats to be determined. 3 held by democrats, 3 by republicans. Both parties flipped 7 seats. You can’t get any closer. The senate, yes, the republicans gained 3 seats. Those 3 seats are in deep red states which shouldn’t have been represented by a democrat to begin with. The republicans may have a 4th in Pennsylvania. It should be noted that in the 5 swing states that held both a presidential and senate race, Trump winning all 5 states, but 4 elected democratic senators, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada and Arizona. The 5th, Pennsylvania is going to a recount.

That takes care of Big. For me the number one and biggest reason the democrats lost, poor job performance by Biden and company. No sitting president with an overall job performance of below 50% has won reelection nor has his replacement won the next election. Biden had a 41% overall job approval, 56% disapproval with 63% of all Americans thinking Biden and his administration had this country headed in the wrong direction, off on the wrong track. With numbers like that, the republicans should have won in a landslide, bigger than big, but they didn’t. Since 1950 we’ve had 8 elections where the sitting president had an overall job approval of below 50%. 1952, Truman’s replacement Stevenson lost to Eisenhower, 1968, LBJ’s replacement Humphrey lost to Nixon. 1976 Ford lost reelection, 1980 Carter lost reelection, 1992 G.H.W. Bush lost reelection, 2008 G.W. Bush’s replacement McCain lost to Obama, 2020 Trump lost reelection, 2024 Biden’s replacement Harris lost to Trump. Everything else about this election will fall back under the poor job performance.

So then why not a bigger than big win for the republicans, a landslide? I say it’s because they went with Trump, a candidate that a majority of Americans dislike. That almost any other republican would have led the GOP to a landslide win considering the above numbers.
 
Lycanthrope said:
"What good is liberalism if you don't win elections?"

Yep, nailed it. Does no good to push an ideology in a democracy if it doesn't connect with a critical mass of voters.
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This is why many are leaving the Democratic Party, have already left. They've been insulting their base for years. I hated the way they used women as if any of us ever needed their protection. Now minorities are catching on. Long past due. We don't need them to pretend they are fighting our battles. We woke up and realize that we are responsible for our own lot in life.

That's why I left them, or should I say they left us. What's to vote for when we're already free?

You can think someone is stupid, as Mayer says, but to call the electorate garbage, Nazis, and fascists, and stupid to their faces is the worst campaign mistake a party could make. I hope they change, but then part of me, a big part says, **** them and they can just stay in their sunken ship, the blue wail.

I won't be addressing anyone who does not address the video in the O/P.
Have a nice day, everyone.
 
trixare4kids said:
Some of us ever before the election gave the warning that they can't keep this up, insulting the electorate, minorities especially. They continued to play their race card, and how'd that work out for them?
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They certainly blew off clear warning signs at their own peril.
trixare4kids said:
Some of us have been saying this in many threads since the election, but it appears to be falling on deaf ears. Maybe it's just this forum where it is loaded with leftwing progressives, the very group Mayer scorns the most.
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But then those left wing progresives are largely taking their leads from their party talking heads who right up to election night were still calling Trump fascist and a threat to democracy.
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The Democratic Party appears to be in shambles though, so much finger-pointing at one another when in fact, collectively, they are all to blame.
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At some point self reflection and a return to the center will have to occur if they want to remain a viable party. They have lost the middle and working class. They are losing a large segment of the minority community.
 
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I think Dems need someone who is not attached to Biden immigration/inflation baggage and has a more populist economic message. I definitely do not think they should stop calling out the many things Trump has done and will continue to do to undermine democracy and American values. That message was not powerful enough to overcome the anti-incumbency mood of the planet or the negative feelings about the economy this year, but when Trump inevitably ****s up the economy it will help get his corrupt and extremist MAGA movement out of power.
 
trixare4kids said:
Warning: Mayer uses the F-word in his commentary.
"It's amazing how an election loss, even as big as this one, still doesn't put a dent in the thinking that lost it."

Bill Mayer, with a very sarcastic tone and lots of hyperbole, nailed why the Democrats lost the election. If they don't change, they keep losing. Isn't this what some of us have been saying to those who continue to double down in the defense of their team? He does not defend Trump or his supporters, just to be clear. He's telling the Democrats to stop digging their holes and learn from their mistakes. The entire party has become nothing but a Portlandia sketch. Take one week to ask what you did wrong.

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Someone smarter than Bill Maher would probably look at how the Dems performed in the down ballot races and consider the actual lesson to learn from the election.
 
The only democrat that lost on my ballot was POTUS.

I suspect the mileage may vary depending on where each person lives.

Senate was going to go GOP this election simply based on what seats were up…so I don’t see that as any sort of “big deal”

The issue for the GOP now becomes governing…I imagine future election outcomes will depend on how well they can do that. 😂
 
trixare4kids said:
This is why many are leaving the Democratic Party, have left They've been insulting their base for years. I hated the way they used women as if any of us ever needed their protection. Now minorities are catching on. Long past due.

That's why I left them, or should I say they left us. What's to vote for when we're already free?
You can think someone is stupid, as Mayer says, but to call the electorate garbage, Nazis, and fascists, and stupid to their faces is the worst campaign mistake a party could make. I hope they change, but then part of me, a big part says, **** them.
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Of course, Maher was also right when he said we've elected a crazy person and that Clinton won the popular vote in 2016, "which in a normal country would be called a victory."

But I take your point - I left the Republican party in disgust in the 90s and have seen nothing since worth returning to. That said, there was never a chance I would sign on with the Democrats, less because of their elitism and more because they a) they are too often blind to what it takes to appeal to average Americans, and b) cannot get their shit together for any consistent length of time.

As Jeff Bridges said in the TV show The Newsroom, "If liberals are so ****ing smart how come they lose so goddamn always?"
 
It's a case of 'even if I'm wrong, I'm right'. Lefties say winning is of paramount importance using over-the-top phrases like the end of democracy Hitler, Authoritarian, etc, but the reality is regardless of who wins life will go on, more or less the same. They can still cling to their incorrect beliefs because it gives them a feeling of comfort and self-rigorousness, especially so amplified by the left wing echo-chamber. From this point the hard work will be on the Republicans to carry these highly ambitions plans of massive changes without blowing up the goverment or the economy. I'm really excited but still cautiously optimistic.
 
trixare4kids said:
Some of us ever before the election gave the warning that they can't keep this up, insulting the electorate, minorities especially. They continued to play their race card, and how'd that work out for them?

Some of us have been saying this in many threads since the election, but it appears to be falling on deaf ears. Maybe it's just this forum where it is loaded with leftwing progressives, the very group Mayer scorns the most.

I see that in other areas across the Net, opinion pieces on Democrat blogs and new sites where there are some more moderate Democrats who are willing to get real, and admit their many mistakes as to why they got their clocks cleaned. They aren't still blaming orange man bad and his voters.

The Democratic Party appears to be in shambles though, so much finger-pointing at one another when in fact, collectively, they are all to blame.
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Democrats are now 99% convinced they just got the messaging wrong. They are still perfect and everyone loves them, they just screwed up the campaign messaging. Importantly, it had nothing to do with their track record. Even more importantly, it had nothing to do with Reality.
 
humbolt said:
I don't mind at all if the left continues to lose. Just their reaction alone is worth it. Charles Barkley (!) summed it up perfectly to the left: "Y'all stupid."
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Sometimes for a laugh I watch a YT video or two of lefties losing it. Lefties have absolutely no control over their emotions whatsoever.
 
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