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'It's a Killing Field': IDF Soldiers Ordered to Shoot Deliberately at Unarmed Gazans Waiting for Humanitarian Aid

What if...? said:
Look up the “refuseniks”. Israel goes too far for even their own people sometimes. We just don’t hear about it. The ADL is good at its job!
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And you think that changes the lie that we were talking about.
But I get you want to deflect though.
 
What if...? said:
Where is it different? They both said IDF soldiers shot at civilians. Are you saying they did it without orders or object that one said they were ordered.
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That you don’t see the difference between a soldier being ordered to do something and something happening shoes a lack in critical thinking ability.
 
braindrain said:
That you don’t see the difference between a soldier being ordered to do something and something happening shoes a lack in critical thinking ability.
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Were the soldiers who deliberately shot at unarmed and starving Palestinians disciplined in any way?
 
Pyrite said:
Were the soldiers who deliberately shot at unarmed and starving Palestinians disciplined in any way?
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I have no idea.
And if they were or were not didn’t change the fact that the headline was a lie.
 
braindrain said:
That you don’t see the difference between a soldier being ordered to do something and something happening shoes a lack in critical thinking ability.
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I think you’re looking to score a point or something.

Both said it was IDF firing on civilians.

Israel is dirty. They commit atrocities and just lie about it. Then call you an antisemite if you call them on it.

Never have got one to explain how things can be antisemitic when they aren’t inherent Jewish traits.
As antisemitism is hatred of Jews for being Jewish.
 
Pyrite said:
Perhaps the poster doesn't want attention drawn to the fact that IDF soldiers have been shooting at starving Palestinians who are forced to run a gauntlet of Israel military personnel as they desperately try to access food.
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That’s exactly right. Since post #6 in this thread, @braindrain has attempted to deflect attention from IDF terrorists shooting desperate people trying to get food. Petty quibbling over the source and wording means he can pretend to be concerned with media bias and not have to confront the horror that Israel is inflicting on a civilian population.
 
What if...? said:
I think you’re looking to score a point or something.

Both said it was IDF firing on civilians.

Israel is dirty. They commit atrocities and just lie about it. Then call you an antisemite if you call them on it.

Never have got one to explain how things can be antisemitic when they aren’t inherent Jewish traits.
As antisemitism is hatred of Jews for being Jewish.
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I think you as just making excuses for a lying source because you like the story they are trying you push.

And you keep proving my point.

When you hold Israel to unrealistic standard and refuse to put the blame on Hamas where it belongs it shows that your real problem is with the Jews.
 
braindrain said:
I think you as just making excuses for a lying source because you like the story they are trying you push.

And you keep proving my point.

When you hold Israel to unrealistic standard and refuse to put the blame on Hamas where it belongs it shows that your real problem is with the Jews.
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So hamas shot those starving people?

Hamas’ actions make it ok to shoot unarmed starving people? That Israel was starving?
 
Decypher said:
That’s exactly right. Since post #6 in this thread, @braindrain has attempted to deflect attention from IDF terrorists shooting desperate people trying to get food. Petty quibbling over the source and wording means he can pretend to be concerned with media bias and not have to confront the horror that Israel is inflicting on a civilian population.
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Strange how in threads with right leaning media all we hear from the left is calling out the source for being right wing and lying.
But here some how talking about a left wing source lying is not supposed to be talked about.

Your partisan hypocrisy is showing.
 
What if...? said:
So hamas shot those starving people?

Hamas’ actions make it ok to shoot unarmed starving people? That Israel was starving?
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When Hamas hides behind civilians these types of things are going to happen.
And the laws of armed conflict make it clear who is you be blamed when it does.

Your ignorance of that is your own problem.
 
braindrain said:
The left: the right only uses biased sources that want to push an agenda. Thats why their sources should be ignored

Also the left. Here is my biased source that I am using because they are pushing the same agenda as me but every one should take it super serious because there are peddling the same propaganda as I am.


The biggest question is how long will it take those sane people who disregard any right wing fact check cause they are rated right , to come in here and talk about how no one should believe this sources as it has a lot of bias.
Strange how the left has been completely silent with regard to that.
It is almost like ask their wedding is simply partisan bs. Crazy I know
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It is okay most of this thing from checking has been absolutely false.

And you know this by how a story propagates and then vanishes. The one that was very recent was how an attack on Iran didn't absolutely obliterate their nuclear program. This was based on lack of information. So they just all the sudden said 30 some odd 30, 000 ton explosives didn't do nothing and then the intelligence came out and they all clammed up.

There was one after that where a swedish drug user was denied entry into the states because he's evidently a drug user and they said it was because of me he had about JD vance and then that story vanished.

Amazing disappearing stories are how you know whether or not a source is legit.
 
Elmo said:
The headline is entirely accurate. Have you not even read the story? The aid stations are only open for an hour a day, and cannot possibly help everyone who needs it in that time. So, predictably, desperate starving Palestinians show up early in the area to have a chance.

And the IDF shoots and shells these unarmed people to drive them away every single day. One IDF soldier: "There’s no enemy, no weapons… I’m not aware of a single instance of return fire.”

Where is the inaccuracy in this headline? "IDF soldiers ordered to deliberately shoot at gazans waiting for aid."
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When the story smells like bullshit it probably is and I'll use that metric from now on this story smells like bullshit.

You know I'm not going to read bullshit articles some complete lawyer writing a story is not evidence of anything.
 
braindrain said:
Strange how in threads with right leaning media all we hear from the left is calling out the source for being right wing and lying.
But here some how talking about a left wing source lying is not supposed to be talked about.

Your partisan hypocrisy is showing.
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Still trying to deflect to sources, I see. The IDF are killing starving people trying to get food. Either the soldiers have been ordered to do so or they are just doing so of their own volition.

Hundreds of people have been killed and an investigation has been launched. Netanyahu of course denies the reports but the amount of people who continue to believe anything he says is vanishingly small.
 
Decypher said:
Still trying to deflect to sources, I see. The IDF are killing starving people trying to get food. Either the soldiers have been ordered to do so or they are just doing so of their own volition.

Hundreds of people have been killed and an investigation has been launched. Netanyahu of course denies the reports but the amount of people who continue to believe anything he says is vanishingly small.
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Still showing your partisan hypocrisy I see.
 
Decypher said:
Still trying to deflect to sources, I see. The IDF are killing starving people trying to get food.
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So some crackpot journalist on a dubious website says but I don't believe them it sounds like bullshit.

The media has been caught lying so much lately that that cannot be trusted
Decypher said:
Either the soldiers have been ordered to do so or they are just doing so of their own volition.
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Or some hack wrote a story that says what you want to believe and you just believe it because of that.
Decypher said:
Hundreds of people have been killed and an investigation has been launched.
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Who are the investigators what are they investigating who are they investigating do you know any of this is it just words you're saying how do we know I'm not taking your word for it. The so-called source in the op isn't the source it's just a headline without an article.
Decypher said:
Netanyahu of course denies the reports but the amount of people who continue to believe anything he says is vanishingly small.
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The amount of people that will believe anything you say it's probably even smaller.
 
Decypher said:
Non response noted. Defending the indefensible must have drained your brain.
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There's no response to have you want to believe a conspiracy theory tabloid and not not that gullible.

You should have more skepticism for stories that tell you what you want to believe.
 
Airyaman said:
Just another reminder that Israel is not the good guys people want us to believe.

www.haaretz.com

IDF soldiers ordered to shoot deliberately at unarmed Gazans waiting for humanitarian aid

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www.haaretz.com www.haaretz.com

Since that is behind a paywall, here is more:

www.palestinechronicle.com

'It’s a Killing Field': Israeli Soldiers Admit to Firing on Hungry Civilians in Gaza - Palestine Chronicle

By Palestine Chronicle Staff A Haaretz exposé reveals that Israeli soldiers were ordered to shoot at Palestinians gathering for food, with commanders normalizing the killing of unarmed civilians. An investigation published by the Israeli [...]
www.palestinechronicle.com www.palestinechronicle.com

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It is what I suspected. When nearly 1 out of every 2 Jewish Israeli citizens supports genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, you are going to see this level of murderous action from a conscript army that reflects the attitudes of the general population.
 
braindrain said:
When Hamas hides behind civilians these types of things are going to happen.
And the laws of armed conflict make it clear who is you be blamed when it does.

Your ignorance of that is your own problem.
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So there’s really small Hamas that can hide behind children?

You keep flailing like this yer gonna sprain something.
 
What if...? said:
So there’s really small Hamas that can hide behind children?
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Well no they have children sit in front of them people don't risk shooting at them because they don't want to kill the children.
What if...? said:
You keep flailing like this yer gonna sprain something.
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There's no failing by anybody but you.
 
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