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It’s Time to Stop Giving Christianity a Pass on White Supremacy and Violence

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In the wake of the massacre in Buffalo, we have all, naturally, tried to understand what could have caused someone to commit such a horrific act of violence. This young white man linked his motivations to fears about demographic and cultural changes in the U.S., dynamics that he believed were resulting in the replacement of “the white race.”

The shooting has spurred a national discussion about the mainstreaming of these concerns, often summarized under the term “replacement theory.” Most of the attention has been given to the demographic component of this theory, while the cultural aspects have been overlooked.

But the fear of cultural replacement has an unambiguous lineage that gives it specific content. At the center of the “great replacement” logic, there is—and has always been—a desperate desire to preserve some version of western European Christendom. Far too many contemporary analysts, and even the Department of Justice, have not seen clearly that the prize being protected is not just the racial composition of the country but the dominance of a racial and religious identity. If we fail to grasp the power of this ethno-religious appeal, we will misconstrue the nature of, and underestimate the power of, the threat before us.

In a 180-page racist screed, the Buffalo shooter wrote that he was particularly inspired by the man behind the 2019 massacre at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, which claimed 51 lives. The Christchurch shooter also left a manifesto entitled “The Great Replacement,” which talked at length about “the Muslim invasion of Europe.” So, the incident that most inspired the Buffalo shooter was a man of European descent murdering Muslims praying in mosques located in a city pointedly named “Christchurch.”

The Christchurch shooter in turn took particular inspiration from the ideology of a terrorist who killed nearly 100 people at a youth camp on Utøya island in Norway in 2011. The Utøya shooter also published a manifesto, which contains clear white Christian nationalist appeals throughout. He asked God to help him succeed in his mission to expel all Muslims from Europe, and he decried the way multiculturalism was deconstructing European culture and “European Christendom.” Toward the end of the document, he proclaimed, “Onward Christian soldiers! Celebrate us, the martyrs of the conservative revolution, for we will soon dine in the Kingdom of Heaven.”

In the U.S., this drive to preserve white Christian dominance undergirded the worldview of the Ku Klux Klan when it reemerged in the early part of the 20th century. We rightly remember the terrorism aimed at Black Americans, but the KKK was also explicitly anti-Jewish and anti-Catholic; it existed to protect the dominance of a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant America.

In 1960, in my home state of Mississippi, Governor Ross Barnett regularly blended his Christian identity with talk about the threat of “white genocide.” Off the campaign trail, Barnett also served as head of the large men’s Sunday school program at the most influential church in the state, First Baptist Church. After his successful segregationist campaign, FBC blessed him with a consecration service and a gift of a pulpit Bible in recognition of his protection of their white and Christian supremacist worldview.


Why are we seeing the rise in white supremacist violence over the last decade? In short, in the U.S. context, the election, and re-election, of our first Black President coincided with the sea change of no longer being a majority white Christian nation (as I noted in my book The End of White Christian America, white Christians went from 54% to 47% in that period, down to 44% today). These twin shocks to centuries of white Christian dominance set the stage for Donald Trump.

Trump’s “Make American Great Again” formula—the stoking of anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, and anti-Black sentiment while making nativist appeals to the Christian right—contains all the tropes of the old replacement theory. The nostalgic appeal of “again” harkens back to a 1950s America, when white Christian churches were full and white Christians comprised a supermajority of the U.S. population; a period when we added “under God” to the pledge of allegiance and “In God We Trust” to our currency.

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Loonie tunes said what?
 
Do you have to be a Christian to believe in white supremacy and violence? I'm confused.
 
Some people definitely make a concerted effort to tie America, Whiteness, and Christianity into one singular concept where you are less American if you are a non-Christian.
 
I don’t get why the OP cites a link and then proceeds to C&P the text in the link. Did I miss the poster content to spur the discussion?

I looked at the article and scanned the text, I didn’t find a difference……🤷
 
Do you have to be a Christian to believe in white supremacy and violence? I'm confused.
No, of course not. But there has always existed an element of Christian theocracy to many US White Supremacist movements. There less (or sometimes even anti) theocratic movements, like the Atomwaffen Division. But there are many US White supremacists that believe the US was founded as a White Christian nation for White Christians.
 
Oh I don't know maybe because that how the rules say to do so? Good ****ing grief. I'm not going to post to everyone's liking. Don't like my threads then just ****ing close them.
 
The whining and bitching is off the chains today. Is every Monday like this here?
 
Personally, I quit give Christianity a pass a long time ago. A good share of them seem to be on the wrong side of just-about-everything.
But they do love those non-taxable shrines though.
 
The whining and bitching is off the chains today. Is every Monday like this here?
When people start complaing about "off topic, not in the OP, against the rules," it just means they've lost the argument. So I just smile and let it go.
 
Oh I don't know maybe because that how the rules say to do so? Good ****ing grief. I'm not going to post to everyone's liking. Don't like my threads then just ****ing close them.
Spunkylama, many many of your posts are critical of Christians and Christianity. Feel free to correct me but I believe it to be true.
There are other religions such as Judaism, Buddism, Hinduism etc that have tenets that could be seen as hypocritical. Care to comment on those?
 
Oh I don't know maybe because that how the rules say to do so? Good ****ing grief. I'm not going to post to everyone's liking. Don't like my threads then just ****ing close them.
Did I miss the “original content?”


Here is rule # 17:

17. Starting a Thread - When starting a thread, it is best to express your own thoughts in your own words. Threads without original content may be summarily closed.
 

In the wake of the massacre in Buffalo, we have all, naturally, tried to understand what could have caused someone to commit such a horrific act of violence. This young white man linked his motivations to fears about demographic and cultural changes in the U.S., dynamics that he believed were resulting in the replacement of “the white race.”

The shooting has spurred a national discussion about the mainstreaming of these concerns, often summarized under the term “replacement theory.” Most of the attention has been given to the demographic component of this theory, while the cultural aspects have been overlooked.

But the fear of cultural replacement has an unambiguous lineage that gives it specific content. At the center of the “great replacement” logic, there is—and has always been—a desperate desire to preserve some version of western European Christendom. Far too many contemporary analysts, and even the Department of Justice, have not seen clearly that the prize being protected is not just the racial composition of the country but the dominance of a racial and religious identity. If we fail to grasp the power of this ethno-religious appeal, we will misconstrue the nature of, and underestimate the power of, the threat before us.

In a 180-page racist screed, the Buffalo shooter wrote that he was particularly inspired by the man behind the 2019 massacre at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, which claimed 51 lives. The Christchurch shooter also left a manifesto entitled “The Great Replacement,” which talked at length about “the Muslim invasion of Europe.” So, the incident that most inspired the Buffalo shooter was a man of European descent murdering Muslims praying in mosques located in a city pointedly named “Christchurch.”

The Christchurch shooter in turn took particular inspiration from the ideology of a terrorist who killed nearly 100 people at a youth camp on Utøya island in Norway in 2011. The Utøya shooter also published a manifesto, which contains clear white Christian nationalist appeals throughout. He asked God to help him succeed in his mission to expel all Muslims from Europe, and he decried the way multiculturalism was deconstructing European culture and “European Christendom.” Toward the end of the document, he proclaimed, “Onward Christian soldiers! Celebrate us, the martyrs of the conservative revolution, for we will soon dine in the Kingdom of Heaven.”

In the U.S., this drive to preserve white Christian dominance undergirded the worldview of the Ku Klux Klan when it reemerged in the early part of the 20th century. We rightly remember the terrorism aimed at Black Americans, but the KKK was also explicitly anti-Jewish and anti-Catholic; it existed to protect the dominance of a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant America.

In 1960, in my home state of Mississippi, Governor Ross Barnett regularly blended his Christian identity with talk about the threat of “white genocide.” Off the campaign trail, Barnett also served as head of the large men’s Sunday school program at the most influential church in the state, First Baptist Church. After his successful segregationist campaign, FBC blessed him with a consecration service and a gift of a pulpit Bible in recognition of his protection of their white and Christian supremacist worldview.


Why are we seeing the rise in white supremacist violence over the last decade? In short, in the U.S. context, the election, and re-election, of our first Black President coincided with the sea change of no longer being a majority white Christian nation (as I noted in my book The End of White Christian America, white Christians went from 54% to 47% in that period, down to 44% today). These twin shocks to centuries of white Christian dominance set the stage for Donald Trump.

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Christianity is a Semitic religion, founded by a Jew, which supplanted the inferior "white" pagan religions and their polytheistic deities such as Zeus and Thor.

Originally, Christ's followers had no intention of extending their religion to include the "white" heathens and gentiles, but keeping it a faith reserved solely for God's chosen people.
 

It’s Time to Stop Giving Christianity a Pass on White Supremacy and Violence​



Agreed. White Supremacy and Violence are among the most un-christian things that christians can be and do. If it isn't being strongly condemned in every White christian church on a regular basis, someone should be telling those pastors to read the new testament again, and perhaps again and again, until they get it.

The bitterest of ironies is that the preponderance of Muslim refugees that flooded into Europe and the USA, provoking at least some of this growing Islamophobic sentiment, did so as a direct result of being displaced from their homeland by Bush the Lesser's invading and occupying hordes in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. By 2007, more than 2.5 million Iraqis had been driven from their country by the army of the very White people who wanted them to stay where they were.

Historically, the US has always been very slow to learn the Law of Unintended Consequences.
 
Spunkylama, many many of your posts are critical of Christians and Christianity. Feel free to correct me but I believe it to be true.
There are other religions such as Judaism, Buddism, Hinduism etc that have tenets that could be seen as hypocritical. Care to comment on those?
I post what is in the news. I assume we see more about Christians as we have more of them here. My personal thoughts is that they are all equally awful.
 
Personally, I quit give Christianity a pass a long time ago. A good share of them seem to be on the wrong side of just-about-everything.
But they do love those non-taxable shrines though.
Why you don't want separation of church and state?
 

In the wake of the massacre in Buffalo, we have all, naturally, tried to understand what could have caused someone to commit such a horrific act of violence. This young white man linked his motivations to fears about demographic and cultural changes in the U.S., dynamics that he believed were resulting in the replacement of “the white race.”

The shooting has spurred a national discussion about the mainstreaming of these concerns, often summarized under the term “replacement theory.” Most of the attention has been given to the demographic component of this theory, while the cultural aspects have been overlooked.

But the fear of cultural replacement has an unambiguous lineage that gives it specific content. At the center of the “great replacement” logic, there is—and has always been—a desperate desire to preserve some version of western European Christendom. Far too many contemporary analysts, and even the Department of Justice, have not seen clearly that the prize being protected is not just the racial composition of the country but the dominance of a racial and religious identity. If we fail to grasp the power of this ethno-religious appeal, we will misconstrue the nature of, and underestimate the power of, the threat before us.

In a 180-page racist screed, the Buffalo shooter wrote that he was particularly inspired by the man behind the 2019 massacre at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, which claimed 51 lives. The Christchurch shooter also left a manifesto entitled “The Great Replacement,” which talked at length about “the Muslim invasion of Europe.” So, the incident that most inspired the Buffalo shooter was a man of European descent murdering Muslims praying in mosques located in a city pointedly named “Christchurch.”

The Christchurch shooter in turn took particular inspiration from the ideology of a terrorist who killed nearly 100 people at a youth camp on Utøya island in Norway in 2011. The Utøya shooter also published a manifesto, which contains clear white Christian nationalist appeals throughout. He asked God to help him succeed in his mission to expel all Muslims from Europe, and he decried the way multiculturalism was deconstructing European culture and “European Christendom.” Toward the end of the document, he proclaimed, “Onward Christian soldiers! Celebrate us, the martyrs of the conservative revolution, for we will soon dine in the Kingdom of Heaven.”

In the U.S., this drive to preserve white Christian dominance undergirded the worldview of the Ku Klux Klan when it reemerged in the early part of the 20th century. We rightly remember the terrorism aimed at Black Americans, but the KKK was also explicitly anti-Jewish and anti-Catholic; it existed to protect the dominance of a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant America.

In 1960, in my home state of Mississippi, Governor Ross Barnett regularly blended his Christian identity with talk about the threat of “white genocide.” Off the campaign trail, Barnett also served as head of the large men’s Sunday school program at the most influential church in the state, First Baptist Church. After his successful segregationist campaign, FBC blessed him with a consecration service and a gift of a pulpit Bible in recognition of his protection of their white and Christian supremacist worldview.


Why are we seeing the rise in white supremacist violence over the last decade? In short, in the U.S. context, the election, and re-election, of our first Black President coincided with the sea change of no longer being a majority white Christian nation (as I noted in my book The End of White Christian America, white Christians went from 54% to 47% in that period, down to 44% today). These twin shocks to centuries of white Christian dominance set the stage for Donald Trump.

Trump’s “Make American Great Again” formula—the stoking of anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, and anti-Black sentiment while making nativist appeals to the Christian right—contains all the tropes of the old replacement theory. The nostalgic appeal of “again” harkens back to a 1950s America, when white Christian churches were full and white Christians comprised a supermajority of the U.S. population; a period when we added “under God” to the pledge of allegiance and “In God We Trust” to our currency.

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Who is giving a pass? I don't know any christians who thinks that was OK.
 
Who is giving a pass? I don't know any christians who thinks that was OK.
We aren't seeing people speak out against it. If anything we are seeing extremists preaching it from the pulpit.
 
I pay no attention to Christianity or what it says, advocates or condemns. I only pay attention to what people say, advocate or condemn. Although many of them happen to be Christian, I still apply the same rule. Paying much attention to what 1000's of years old texts say or what long dead church officials claim that they say, after they have been translated through 3 different languages and edited and re-edited repeatedly over 100's of years, depending on the fickle preferences of specific ecclesiastical committees, seems foolish.

Soo I will keep giving Christianity 'a pass' on white supremacy and violence, and give absolutely no quarter or sympathy to Christians who use Christianity to justify or rationalize their own racist or violence behavior.
 
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