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Israeli plan for forced transfer of Gaza’s population ‘a blueprint for crimes against humanity’

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Israel’s two step genocide plan. Initiated by America, executed by Israel. So resorts can be built.

Step 1...


Step 2


 
Two million or so forcibly moved to Rafah, then expelled?

Those are war crimes.

With murderous settlers also razing or sieging villages on the West Bank, it sure looks like genocide.

But, a bronze age story says it belongs to definitely not a bunch of racist Russians only one group, I guess it there's nothing anyone can do.
 
Yeah, but America says it’s okay, so unless Europe grows a spine they are probably fine.

“But but Russia” is absolutely the excuse used to justify blind Western support of Israel, yes.
 
Yeah, but America says it’s okay, so unless Europe grows a spine they are probably fine.
Client states do what they patron states want.
“But but Russia” is absolutely the excuse used to justify blind Western support of Israel, yes.
I was referring to the Israelis who were not too long ago a bunch of Russian racists. But, because of a story, the land can only be theirs.
 
Those are war crimes.

With murderous settlers also razing or sieging villages on the West Bank, it sure looks like genocide.

Are they killing them because they are Palestinian or because they have been under attack for 80 years and are freaking fed up with it?


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Client states do what they patron states want.

I was referring to the Israelis who were not too long ago a bunch of Russian racists. But, because of a story, the land can only be theirs.
America can’t even have action novels with Israelis as the antagonists. There’s, like, one I can think of in the last few decades. That’s not “patron state” behavior; the U.S. is subservient to Israel.

Unless you are saying Europe is client to the U.S., I guess.


Yeah, but that racism was around long before any Russian emigres showed up.
 
Are they killing them because they are Palestinian or because they have been under attack for 80 years and are freaking fed up with it?


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Because a book written by people who heard voices and hallucinated talking animals says they can. Plus, colonial racism. Plus, the US allows it.

It's not self defense when you blow up children. This was as true of the IRA as it is of the IDF.
 
Because a book written by people who heard voices and hallucinated talking animals says they can. Plus, colonial racism. Plus, the US allows it.

It's not self defense when you blow up children. This was as true of the IRA as it is of the IDF.
Highkey Northern Ireland was as much under a version of Jim Crow as the U.S. South. It was only through decades of attacks by the PIRA and INLA and the like that it dawned on the British Empire that equal rights were a good idea.
 
Israel is a wholly dependent client.

Full stop. The US either allows incremental disposession (Clinton, Shrub, Obama) or authorizes, funds and arms war crimes (Trump, Biden).

The last US President to rein in Israel was Poppy Bush, showing the US always can if its leaders want to, and that it was not in the US interests, during that time, to license a freer Israeli hand.
 
There is little chance of the U.S. so much as reprimanding Israel. That is not a superior nation position. If anything, that is a subordinate one.

If you can’t even portray people from a country as villains in fiction, you are not in control.

George Bush I somehow being horrified by Israeli actions doesn’t actually change that.
 
Are they killing them because they are Palestinian or because they have been under attack for 80 years and are freaking fed up with it?


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If you think the Israelis have solely been under attack by the Palestinians for the last 80 years, then you are seriously misinformed. Open your mind and watch this doc. It will help you see some very important truths. There is only so much a population can take before it cracks -- watch and see how horribly Palestinians have been treated for decades.

 
Because a book written by people who heard voices and hallucinated talking animals says they can. Plus, colonial racism. Plus, the US allows it.

It's not self defense when you blow up children. This was as true of the IRA as it is of the IDF.

I didn't say it was self-defense. I said that they are probably over the shit.

That said, the overall concept is self-defense... and some bad shit happens too.
 
Not 15 minutes into the PBS Special they talk about Hamas calling for the complete destruction of Israel in the 1990's.

Over 2 million Palestinians live in Israel. The Jews are not wiping them out, as genocide would suggest. The ones being targeted are the ones that elected terrorists to lead them intent on killing all the Jews in Israel.

If you think the Israelis have solely been under attack by the Palestinians for the last 80 years, then you are seriously misinformed.




Open your mind and watch this doc. It will help you see some very important truths.




And I did not even mention the 1948 Invasion or the 1967 War or the Yom Kippur War in 1967

From your source:
"Their (Hamas) increasingly brazen attacks would fuel Israeli opposition to the peace talks"

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Israeli forces repeatedly attacked peaceful Palestinian villages, such as Deir Yassin, and carried out extensive atrocities in the process.

It wasn’t a Palestinian who assassinated Rabin for daring to try and make peace.
 
If this is real, it's infinitely beyond anything Israel had a right or duty to do. Bibi/Likud already had gone to far, but this is an obscenity, whether it's truly the approved strategy or one person's idea. It is the kind of act that should trigger responses well beyond "well we just won't give you weapons now".... but Trump/Kushner suggested it and will aid it. (Unless he does TACO about crimes against humanity to boot)

This is what some (many?) in Likud wanted. This would not happen if Harris won.
 
I appreciate that you made an effort to watch. You need to finish it... keep going.
 
What part of the documentary justifies the invasion into Israel by thousands of Islamist genocidal terrorists and the murder, rape and kidnapping of Israeli citizens?
 
Israel’s two step genocide plan. Initiated by America, executed by Israel. So resorts can be built.
You keep going on about this hysterical claim month after month and nothing happens. Makes me wonder when you'll give up this propaganda nonsense.

Establishing a humanitarian camp where people can live a more normal life while the war on Hamas terrorist wages is a bad thing? Maybe in the eyes of those who wish to sacrifice every single Gazan civilian in their dreams to destroy Israel. I heard Netanyahu saying himself yesterday in a dinner with Trump that Gazans have free choice and will have the freedom to choose whether to leave or stay.
 
As I see it, the path to peace in the Middle East leaves us with but one of two choices, an Israel or a Palestine.
 
You keep going on about this hysterical claim month after month and nothing happens.

The war crimes are in progress.

I heard Netanyahu saying himself yesterday in a dinner with Trump that Gazans have free choice and will have the freedom to choose whether to leave or stay.

Maybe he should talk to his war criminal Defence Minister who seems to have a different plan in mind.
 
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