Israel calls on 1.1 million Gazans to evacuate south in order UN warns is ‘impossible’

[reinaert]

You are arguing for the status quo which means continued war and suffering for Palestinians.

No. I'm stating that any position taken with regard to Putin must be applied consistently. Even to Israel.

You want Hamas to retain their govt. in Gaza and your excuse is the same one they use.

I think you probably need to believe this, which says something about you. I just don't like war crimes. I don't give a **** if combatants kill each other. They know the rules. They choose the stakes. For example, I don't care how brutally or gleefully Ukrainian soldiers slaughter Russian regulars or contract fighters.

But, hey, if you think that's not enough, you can always go the 'self-hating Jew route. Maybe call me a Nazi sympathizer, like the tankies and Putinists do in the Ukraine discussions.

It is too dangerous to civilians to destroy them.

And then, the inevitable nonsense.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

When do you think it started, since we have such hysterical historical rewriters here?

you’re the GOP and he’s the good guy, or are you bernie to the worst degree?

your posting adds up to gop >> russia (ethnic-cleansing of Ukraine to boot) >> iran >> (NK cyber) >> hamas >> raping, murdering, & kidnapping of civilians from &

Do you agree with the post or not?

Simple question

 

[iguanaman]

You don't get to change the meaning of words. Deliberate and continued bombing of CIVILIANS is not a simple matter of a few of them dying due to collateral damage inherent in bombing of a known and recognized military target.

And deliberate interdiction of food, water, fuel, medicines? There is no way even you could possible make any kind of case that this is not primarily targeting CIVILIANS.

Bibi and his Government are targeting the population of Gaza and holding them responsible for the actions of Hamas. They are inflicting collective punishment.

This is a war to destroy Hamas and the Israelis are targeting known Hamas facilities. The alternative is the allow Hamas to continue to exist because they hide among civilians who will suffer if they are attacked. That is what Hamas is counting on and you are their cheerleader.

 

[Bodi]

Forceful relocation and expulsion are war crimes. Killing those who cannot evacuate are war crimes.

For ****'s sake, this is not hard.

What about what started this all.. you know, the terrorist invasion and killing and taking hostage hundreds of innocent civilians including women and children? Was that a war crime?

 

[Pyrite]

Honestly, I do not think Hamas will let them flee.....Hamas needs the human shields.
Its is their modus operandi.

Honestly, there's no way more than a million people would be able to get out.

Israel likely knows this. Is trapping and then bombing them their modus operandi?

 

[Questerr]

So you say. Anyone can say that. Most who did serve don’t say it out loud.

It’s an impossible conversation, just like 5,000 years of war, rape, and pillage.

it’s impossible for me to support the illegal, corrupt and incompetent government of Netanyahu; as Israeli Mothers have said to Bibi: We Will Never Forgive You;

You have seen Bibi campaign for GOPs in your state. You have seen Aman, Shin Bet, Mossad & the Netanyahu government fail her own Israeli people.

Really? Most Iraq veterans refuse to admit it? You got a source for that?

 

[Pyrite]

This is a war to destroy Hamas and the Israelis are targeting known Hamas facilities. The alternative is the allow Hamas to continue to exist because they hide among civilians who will suffer if they are attacked. That is what Hamas is counting on and you are their cheerleader.

Starving civilians is not a war to destroy Hamas. It's a collective punishment aimed at killing civilians.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

You will never let the Palestinians have a homeland and doom them to death and suffering forever. That is worse than disgusting.

I want them to, you feel they are sheep to be slaughtered

 

[Questerr]

You condone terrorism and war crimes when it is your side doing it... be honest now. LOL

What exactly is “my side”? And quote what terrorism and war crimes I’ve “condoned”.

Or you could admit to lying. That would be the truthful thing to do.

 

[reinaert]

Maybe the U.S. is in on the fix, that's a probability, especially this late in the game.
But what does that mean the best course of action is FOR PALESTINIANS?

Raging at Israel and the U.S. isn't going to work, it's not how the game is played.

Not rage. Pathos. Tragic, profoundly disappointed pathos. But the answer to your question remains what it was: Biden could stop this today.

Instead, memos have gone out shielding the worst of Netanyahu's instincts:

Leaked Emails Warn U.S. Diplomats Against Calling For Israeli ‘De-Escalation’ In Gaza

As Israel escalates its offensive, U.S. diplomats are being discouraged from publicly using three phrases that would urge calm.

www.huffpost.com

 

[Questerr]

She did not discuss cutting off water and my response to her had nothing to do with cutting off water...

I asked, in a general sense, when is Israel allowed to defend itself?

So, when is Israel allowed to defend itself... or is everything that they do a "War Crime"?

Cutting off water to Gaza is something Israel is doing RIGHT NOW. Do you agree it’s a war crime?

 

[Bodi]

You're bad at this. Thank's for the reminder.

LOL

 

[ASHES]

Cutting off water to Gaza is something Israel is doing RIGHT NOW. Do you agree it’s a war crime?

Isn't there a saying? Don't bite the hand that feeds you?

 

[reinaert]

What about what started this all.. you know, the terrorist invasion and killing and taking hostage hundreds of innocent civilians including women and children?

It was a human evil.

Was that a war crime?

Yes, of course.

It does not justify expulsion, starvation, cutting off water, incendiary weapons on civilians, or whatever other awful is coming next.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Isn't there a saying? Don't bite the hand that feeds you?

So the Palestinians should beg and be happy they being kept alive but oppressed

 

[iguanaman]

No. I'm stating that any position taken with regard to Putin must be applied consistently. Even to Israel.


I think you probably need to believe this, which says something about you. I just don't like war crimes. I don't give a **** if combatants kill each other. They know the rules. They choose the stakes. For example, I don't care how brutally or gleefully Ukrainian soldiers slaughter Russian regulars or contract fighters.

But, hey, if you think that's not enough, you can always go the 'self-hating Jew route. Maybe call me a Nazi sympathizer, like the tankies and Putinists do in the Ukraine discussions.

And then, the inevitable nonsense.

LOL The Ukrainians do not place their military in and among civilians in civilian buildings and Putin has no military reason to target them. That is not the same situation as Gaza at all. Equating them is disingenuous at best. Israel has every right to destroy Hamas and they cannot use their humans shields to stop them from doing it. That thinking is what made the attack on Israel possible. If Hamas knew that they would be obliterated for this attack they would not have done it.

 

[Questerr]

What about what started this all.. you know, the terrorist invasion and killing and taking hostage hundreds of innocent civilians including women and children? Was that a war crime?

Yes. Hamas is a terrorist organization. They commit war crimes.

 

[ASHES]

So the Palestinians should beg and be happy they being kept alive bit oppressed

Hamas is their oppressor.

 

[reinaert]

LOL The Ukrainians do not place their military in and among civilians in civilian buildings and Putin has no military reason to target them.

Think about what you are justifying.

That is not the same situation as Gaza at all. Equating them is disingenuous at best. Israel has every right to destroy Hamas and they cannot use their humans shields to stop them from doing it.

Think about what you are justifying. In between lamenting the breeding of subhumans, that is.

 

[Questerr]

Isn't there a saying? Don't bite the hand that feeds you?

The civilians of Gaza but Israel’s hand how?

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Hamas is their oppressor.

No it is not, as the Palestinians in the west bank are oppressed as well

 

[Bodi]

When it isn't doing war crimes and apartheid, for starters.

A non-answer answer. LOL

Bad at this means not taking your hand and lead into stupidity.

 

[ASHES]

No it is not, as the Palestinians in the west bank are oppressed as well

And Israel would be oppressed or completely destroyed if it had lost any of it's wars.

 

[Bum]

Honestly, there's no way more than a million people would be able to get out.

Israel likely knows this. Is trapping and then bombing them their modus operandi?

if you mean by giving them a warning, then , yes.
"Door knocking" or "Roof knocking: is a trademark of the Israeli military.
I do not condone strikes on Palestinian buildings, but its a far cry from machine gunning infants and toddlers.

 

[Rexedgar]

Wasn't that already tried in 2000?

• 1949 Armistice Agreements
• Allon Plan (1967-80)
• Rogers Plan (1969)
• Geneva Conference (1973)
• Camp David Accords (1978)
• Egypt–Israel peace treaty (1979)
• Madrid Conference of 1991
• Oslo Accords (1993)
• Israel–Jordan peace treaty (1994)
• 2000 Camp David Summit

Israeli–Palestinian peace process - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The westward US expansion was done by “settlers” too, right? We called it “manifest destiny.”

Israeli settlement timeline - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org