ManofthPeephole
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I think he would be a flight risk, so I can understand denying him permission. Just last year, the imprisoned former governor of Illinois - George Ryan - was denied permission to visit with his terminal wife. She passed away about three months later.
What I will never understand is why the Lockerbie bomber was released in 2009 for “humanitarian reasons”. As far as I know, he is still alive today
Agreed. I can also understand why the Pakistanis were pissed about releasing Raymond Davis.As for the reasons, I would say a lack of anything resembling common sense
Agreed. I can also understand why the Pakistanis were pissed about releasing Raymond Davis.
Yeah, I was really amazed at that one. But when "Blood Money" is an acceptable legal principle, what do you expect?
Different cultures-different belief systems.
Paul
If other prisoners of similar status are being allowed this right then it is 'cruel and unusual' to deny it.
If Justice is not blind then it very quickly deteriorates and nothing makes it deteriorate faster than allowing politics to start making specific sentencing and penal decisions over individual prisoners. If you are really a liberal then you have to accept that and live with the consequences, blind justice is non-negotiable.
I think he would be a flight risk, so I can understand denying him permission. Just last year, the imprisoned former governor of Illinois - George Ryan - was denied permission to visit with his terminal wife. She passed away about three months later.
What I will never understand is why the Lockerbie bomber was released in 2009 for “humanitarian reasons”. As far as I know, he is still alive today
but he wasn't "especially" a dead relative. there were requests made for his father to see him before he died and they were denied.Leniency should not be shown just because some scumbag has a relative,especially a dead relative.
would it really have been so bad to show some common humanity towards his father?
but he wasn't "especially" a dead relative. there were requests made for his father to see him before he died and they were denied.
would it really have been so bad to show some common humanity towards his father?
this is the third time i have said this. reading comprehension please people.
One of things about prison is that you miss out on family functions. This means no birthday parties, no seeing someone on their death bed, no visiting someone in the hospital, no anniversaries, no kids little league practice, no weddings, no holidays or any other special functions with loved ones. That is some of the consequences of going to prison. The spy should rot in prison for the rest of his life, he should have been executed. If his father's funeral is that import then they can video tape it and show it to him on the other side of that glass window in the visitors room.
The fact his father may have or may not want his somewhere is irrelevant. Do you know how many kids across the country miss their fathers not being there? Should we allow inmates to go to their kids little league or soccer match? Should we allow inmates out of prison to go to their kids birth day party,graduation or some other special occasion?
from what i've read, Pollard and his father had been estranged since the mid 90s. IMO he shouldn't have been allowed to visit him asi know what he did was wrong, but would it have been so bad to let him say goodbye to his Dad before he died. his Dad didn't do anything wrong.
I think he would be a flight risk, so I can understand denying him permission. Just last year, the imprisoned former governor of Illinois - George Ryan - was denied permission to visit with his terminal wife. She passed away about three months later.
What I will never understand is why the Lockerbie bomber was released in 2009 for “humanitarian reasons”. As far as I know, he is still alive today
I don't think he deserves any sort of preferential treatment. Syping on your friends is despicable.
Would it have been 'special treatment' or, is it standard practice to allow prisoners to attend the funeral of their next of kin/parents?
Paul
Everybody spies on everybody else, friend or foe. The UK spies on us, the Japanese and Koreans spy on us, most multi-national corporations hiding under the American flag sell secrets, technology and everything else to Red China, American politicians sell votes to any country with the bucks to offer.
Let's not forget that some of the information Pollard passed to Israel which then found it's way to Russia included the names of spies and the addresses of safe houses. His actions led to the deaths of hundreds of people.
Everybody spies on everybody else, friend or foe. The UK spies on us, the Japanese and Koreans spy on us, most multi-national corporations hiding under the American flag sell secrets, technology and everything else to Red China, American politicians sell votes to any country with the bucks to offer. Reagan and his bitch Oliver North committed treason, smuggled weapons to a hostile government who committed an act of war on us, and then smuggled drugs into the U.S.. They both should have died in prison or been shot, yet they're revered as 'heroes'.
So, let the guy go to his father's funeral, and commute the rest of his sentence as well. It serves no purpose, it's certainly not a deterrent to anybody else, given all the corruption ruining this country anyway.
Let's not forget those claims are all utter nonsense, and no proof at all exists for them, except of course in the wilds of the Neo-Nazi propaganda mills and assorted right wing nut farms.
The time he is serving in prison is already 'special treatment'. I don't remember where I heard this but someone said the US won't release Pollard until they will be sure he will not be accepted in Israel as a hero with celebrations. The irony is, the longer he sits in prison, the more popular the cries for his release get.
=jamesrage;1059615810]His dad is dead and his father is irrelevant to the fact his son was convicted for spying.
How is his dad a innocent victim? Did his father get thrown in prison because of what his son did?
it amazes me how freely some of you people toss out the antisemitism card
I don't doubt you're amazed by all sorts of things. Fingerpainting, clouds, peanut butter ...
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