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Well, US leadership knows everything they need to know about the enemy: we're NOT in a religious war. We're in a war against a revolutionary gang ala the axis of WWII. What they're are at war about means nothing. They want territory and will use any means to get it and we will deny them that. Just like before.
It's ignorant to think that we're at war with a religion or a religious belief.
It's ignorant to think that we're at war with a religion or a religious belief.
A significant number do, and which side do you think those fundamentalists land on?
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Call it what you want, but we need to understand why they are at war. It's religious to them, and we'd better understand that.
Again, why they are at war means nothing. Ideology is ideology. War is performed for territorial and social control. Whatever "emotional divers" are used for social controls are positioned for fear to bind the army. That is the motivation. The only thing that matters is when said motivations cross borders and damage another society. The reason we lost in Vietnam, was because said motivations had crossed borders twenty years before we got there and had taken hold of the rural population who cared nothing about motivations. So it goes with a majority of the Middle Eastern population who have the unfortunate circumstance of living in a sectarian society. Control of spiritual destiny has been used as a driver for millennia, and that driver is simply fear. The very same sort of fear that Hitler used to gain his upper hand as did the Romans.
ISIL is using conventional and guerrilla tactics the very same way American Revolutionaries did. The very same way Ho Chi Minh did. US leadership understands that. I - think - that, our real problem is the "proxy" element between the powers. It's like money.
So trying to boil it down to just religion is stupid and only holds people in ignorance and worse yet, plays right into the hands of the enemy as fuel for the fire. THIS IS WHY Democratic leadership in this country refuses, and wisely so, to go down the empty religious road.
So it's not even close as a matter of calling it what we want, it's matter of stripping it to its lowest common denominator so that we can know how to fight it and ultimately defeat it, and western powers are going to have to roll the dice and just go after it before it gets any bigger.
Oh looky, he's stooping low to draw an equivalence to our founders. Dude, you are desperate.
The floundering right wing. The typical "personalize the argument" ad-hom fallacy because refuting my argument has become impossible.
War is war American. It has motivations and tactics - full stop. Because of human nature, those motives and tactics are going to be the same; that's why they teach "tactics" at military colleges like West Point. I accept your ceding of the debate.
It's a religious war because ISIS made it one. Get use to it.
It's a religious war because ISIS made it one. Get use to it.
I refuse to accept an ignorant perspective.
If you want to go along with ISIS, then sure, it's a religious war. The Christians vs. the Muslims, just like in Spain and France hundreds of years ago.
I think you came in with one.
You're right, that's precisely how they think.
ISIS is by your own admission spreading and increasing terrorist attacks. Fighting them is inevitable...fight or die. Many fundamentalist Muslims will join them. Conversely...its not conservative religious fundamentalists that oppose them...its anyone with a pulse and a measurable IQ.If we allow ISIS to have its way and start a war between Islam and Christianity, then no doubt the fundamentalist Muslims will be on the side of Islam. That's one reason (among many) why we don't want ISIS to achieve its goal. Unfortunately, we have fundamentalists on the other side who seem to think a religious war in inevitable.
I refuse to accept an ignorant perspective.
Don't you realize that he just said that you are under the spell of ISIL?
That's been my point to you. You're not approaching this from an intelligent perspective, but from one that is always trying to find the blue M&M...
ISIS is by your own admission spreading and increasing terrorist attacks. Fighting them is inevitable...fight or die. Many fundamentalist Muslims will join them. Conversely...its not conservative religious fundamentalists that oppose them...its anyone with a pulse and a measurable IQ.
It is ignorant not to acknowledge reality. ISIS by their own claims are waging Jihad.
Go look up Jihad. Get back to us when you find out what it means.
No, he didn't. You're lying again.
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