ISIS In Europe

[Gathomas88]

Good news: 16% of people in France view ISIS favorably « Hot Air

Sooo... Can we be worried about demographic shift in Western Europe now, or what?

Apparently, some other sources are reporting that more British citizens have signed up for ISIS in the last year than have joined the UK Army Reserve.

WEST: Those who would rather join the jihadi army than their own nation's army - Washington Times

 

[Paleocon]

Good news: 16% of people in France view ISIS favorably « Hot Air

Sooo... Can we be worried about Demographic shift in Western Europe now, or what?

Apparently, some other sources are reporting that more British citizens have signed up for ISIS in the last year than have joined the UK Army Reserve.

WEST: Those who would rather join the jihadi army than their own nation's army - Washington Times

Those facts contradict established liberal narratives, therefore they are invalid. Anyone who disputes that this is sound reasoning is likewise invalid. Anyone who asks how a person can possibly be invalid, or calls the idea nonsensical, is invalid.

 

[ecofarm]

The Muzzies are coming!!11!!


:scared:


God save White Europe!!11!!

 

[Gathomas88]

Some people don't like facts, apparently. :shrug:

 

[polgara]

Good news: 16% of people in France view ISIS favorably « Hot Air

Sooo... Can we be worried about Demographic shift in Western Europe now, or what?

Apparently, some other sources are reporting that more British citizens have signed up for ISIS in the last year than have joined the UK Army Reserve.

WEST: Those who would rather join the jihadi army than their own nation's army - Washington Times

Greetings, Gathomas88. :2wave:

I wonder how many of those signing up are those who emigrated to Europe from the ME in recent years in the first place by claiming asylum! I find it hard to believe that anyone born in Europe would be willing to fight for a group that wants to dominate them eventually. Of course, they should be allowed to leave, but I'd be very reluctant to let them re-enter any country that they left! The ones born in Europe that would be willing to join are probably looking at it as a big adventure, and I'm not familiar with how they're being "wooed," but isn't that what might be termed a traitor to one's own country? They won't serve in their home country's military, but are willing to join a group that is killing women and children in the ME. This is unreal!

 

[PeteEU]

Good news: 16% of people in France view ISIS favorably « Hot Air

Sooo... Can we be worried about demographic shift in Western Europe now, or what?

Apparently, some other sources are reporting that more British citizens have signed up for ISIS in the last year than have joined the UK Army Reserve.

WEST: Those who would rather join the jihadi army than their own nation's army - Washington Times

This is not the first thread on this very strange poll. Why is it strange? because it makes absolutely not sense what so ever. The French numbers are nuts.. to get those %, not only would every Muslim in France but 10+% of the white Christian population support ISIS. That makes no sense what so ever.

Then there comes the poll it self. I have yet to find the raw poll numbers that could explain these results.

The poll basically "proves" what the far right in Europe and the US have been saying for years.. and that alone makes red flags go up for me. Add to that, it is Russia Today that has ordered this poll and it was from a non standard polling company... and that we cant get access to the raw numbers of the poll.. and well something smells.

 

[Fiddytree]

Although I am skeptical of the numbers, what ought to be troubling to a lot of people is the strength of radical Islam in Europe.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Those facts contradict established liberal narratives, therefore they are invalid. Anyone who disputes that this is sound reasoning is likewise invalid. Anyone who asks how a person can possibly be invalid, or calls the idea nonsensical, is invalid.

What does this has to do with liberals?

 

[radioman]

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WEST: Those who would rather join the jihadi army than their own nation's army - Washington Times

Uh-oh....looks like West wants to invade Britain.

 

[Gathomas88]

This is not the first thread on this very strange poll. Why is it strange? because it makes absolutely not sense what so ever. The French numbers are nuts.. to get those %, not only would every Muslim in France but 10+% of the white Christian population support ISIS. That makes no sense what so ever.

Then there comes the poll it self. I have yet to find the raw poll numbers that could explain these results.

The poll basically "proves" what the far right in Europe and the US have been saying for years.. and that alone makes red flags go up for me. Add to that, it is Russia Today that has ordered this poll and it was from a non standard polling company... and that we cant get access to the raw numbers of the poll.. and well something smells.

To be fair, the article did offer one possible explanation for the French numbers. Apparently, there is something of an anti-Semitic streak running through French culture at the moment, and some people perceive ISIS as standing in opposition to Israel.

That could conceivably explain why some of the native population would have a more positive impression of ISIS as well as the Muslims.

However, I doubt that the numbers would be a deliberate hoax. If they were, why would they single out France in particular, while basically ignoring the UK and Germany?

 

[PeteEU]

To be fair, the article did offer one possible explanation for the French numbers. Apparently, there is something of an anti-Semitic streak running through French culture at the moment, and some people perceive ISIS as standing in opposition to Israel.

Yes this is a theory promoted again by the right wing and not based in reality. Just because people are against Israel does not make them anti-Semitic. However there was some very highly publicized protests where very stupid things were said in anger and that was blown out of proportion as usual. Every time Israel flexes its muscles, "anti-Semitism" rises as anything critical of Israel is blasted as anti-Semtisim in Europe.. rather pathetic.

That could conceivably explain why some of the native population would have a more positive impression of ISIS as well as the Muslims.

Could also be that they only asked Muslims. Then the numbers might make more sense. And it would also be on how they formulated the question and when the poll was taken. I mean if the poll in France was taken on the day one of the many horrors happening in Gaza was being splattered over the media.. then I suspect that the result would be different than normal.

However, I doubt that the numbers would be a deliberate hoax. If they were, why would they single out France in particular, while basically ignoring the UK and Germany?

Why only poll those 3 countries? Why not the US as well? Why not Spain, Italy, Scandinavian countries, or Benelux countries.. countries with "large" Muslim minorities?

As for being a hoax.. not saying that, but this polling company was used by a marketing company for the first decade to make specific poll work for marketing... that does not mean that the poll results were accurate or unbiased.. as in they wanted a specific result and made the poll to fit that result.

The real question is why was this not done by a more reputable polling company? Could it be that the ones that wanted the poll, could not get the result they wanted at more reputable polling companies?

My real question is.. there have been many polls done over the years in all countries, but it is first time such a poll result has happened... that alone makes me think twice of the result.