Their irrational pursuit of a nuclear weapon paints a fairly complete picture of exactly that.
Their irrational pursuit of a nuclear weapon paints a fairly complete picture of exactly that.
Saddam DID possess stockpiles of WMDs. He just hid them in the one place he knew Dubya would never look: the Baghdad Public Library.
Mark
Of course they are, but they were decades old. The Bush administration tried making it appear like Hussein was building and stockpiling WMD and trying to build nuclear weapons. This is what we invaded over.
- 25,000 liters of anthrax
- 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin
- 500 tons of mustard, sarin and VX nerve gas.
- 30,000 missiles and short-range rockets
- reconstituting its nuclear weapons program
He admitted to getting that wrong.fyi, GWB's claim was not that there were some decades old munitions rotting in Iraq
Anthrax is both.fwiw, anthrax is a disease not a WMD
True, false, trueYou can use anthrax to make a WMD. But a pile of anthrax spores is not a WMD. anthrax is indigenous to Africa, Americas, Asia, Australia, and Europe
Where do you think Trump gets his information? Duh. Except his isn't filtered through a mesh of LW propaganda and partisanship.Thankfully W took care of the weapons of mass destruction before Iraq had a chance to use them and, what, there were no weapons of mass destruction, but W and his cronies said there were?
And now we have Donald talking about war with Iran because they are so close to having a nuclear weapon, that's what he's saying.
And then we have the intelligence services, which trump knows more than anyone in any of the services about everything, saying Iran isn't even close to having a bomb. Since Donald says he operates on instinct and he says they are close, who do you believe? Trump or his intelligence operatives who were also wrong about putin and the 2016 election?
Who do you believe, trump or the intelligence services?
Trump says Iran is close to having a nuclear weapon but U.S. intelligence says otherwise
Trump says Iran is close to having a nuclear weapon but U.S. intelligence says otherwise
NBC News White House Correspondent Vaughn Hillyard, Senior National Security Correspondent Courtney Kube and retired Lt. Gen. Steph Twitty join Meet the Press NOW to discuss the Intelligence Community’s assessment that Iran isn’t close to creating a nuclear weapon, despite President Trump saying...www.yahoo.com
It's because he didn’t have what we invaded over. And Hussein didn't get rid of his own weapons, which would have been stupid when he was about to be invaded. The problem was blamed on poor intelligence. Both with us and England.
The Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction
We conclude that the Intelligence Community was dead wrong in almost all of its pre-war judgments about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. This was a major intelligence failure.
Apparently not from his intelligence services who are telling him Iran is not close to getting a nuclear weapon, so you tell me, where does he get his info? Trump already told you himself, he gets it from his instincts.Where do you think Trump gets his information? Duh. Except his isn't filtered through a mesh of LW propaganda and partisanship.
He admitted to getting that wrong.
Is trump about to lie us into another war like W did with his weapons of mass destruction claims?
You should know that W was proven right, so why the pretense?
Ooops caught trying to have it both ways.Imho,
GWB's admission that he got it wrong also seems to undercut your assertion that GWB "was proven right"
ymmv
Apparently NOT from daily Presidential briefingsWhere do you think Trump gets his information?
Duh. Except his isn't filtered through a mesh of LW propaganda and partisanship.
Knows? Where is your proof? If you have proof show it. If they were close it’s Trump’s faultTrump and the rest of the civilised world knows that Iran is very close to having nuclear weapons. And having them in the hands o primitive totalitarian theocrats woul be a danger to us all.
They have been that since 1995 though, days from the nuke. It's quite alot of days.Trump and the rest of the civilised world knows that Iran is very close to having nuclear weapons. And having them in the hands o primitive totalitarian theocrats woul be a danger to us all.
non sequiturApparently NOT from daily Presidential briefings
LOL, are you serious? You think we publish our most highly classified information and plans for public consumption? You're joking, right?When was the last time you looked for a published intelligence assessment from the USIC or the US military regarding Iran and the nuclear weapon capabilities?
Doesn't matter any more, does it. We don't know WHAT his intelligence services tell him in private, so you're talking through your hat.Apparently not from his intelligence services who are telling him Iran is not close to getting a nuclear weapon, so you tell me, where does he get his info? Trump already told you himself, he gets it from his instincts.
non sequitur
LOL, are you serious? You think we publish our most highly classified information and plans for public consumption? You're joking, right?
Never mind, my point obviously went way over your head. Oh, and how many other documents are NOT published because of classified?Actually, the fact that Trump does NOT get his info from the USIC is exceptionally on point.
ROFLMAO
WHO TF SAID ANYTHING ABOUT "our most highly classified information"?
Pretending I said that our "our most highly classified information and plans" have been published
seems a deflated attempt to avoid realizing that you do not seek information from reliable sources.
There are eleventy gazillions of published documents from the USIC and the US military which are available for people who want information which is not "filtered through a mesh of LW propaganda and partisanship."
And, yes, none of the published documents are the "most highly classified information and plans" the US has.
Never mind, my point obviously went way over your head. Oh, and how many other documents are NOT published because of classified?
Wouldn't do much good, my clearance expired when I retired. My accept would be severely limited.When was the last time you looked for a published intelligence assessment from the USIC or the US military regarding Iran and the nuclear weapon capabilities?
Wouldn't do much good, my clearance expired when I retired. My accept would be severely limited.
It’s simple. No nukes equals no messing around with their internal politics. Really, this has been known for a long time. The Iranians are well aware. That was the point of Obama’s agreement, although the sunset clause was a fatal flaw.How is their pursuit of a nuclear weapon “irrational”? They want deterrence against the US doing a “regime change” on them. That’s rational.
That’s a general notion assuming rational leadership. Iran, by virtue of their leadership and their resulting actions, does not fit that general notion. At all. Who among nuclear armed nations subscribes to first use as policy?Wildly, many military strategists find the pursuit of nuclear weapons to be quite rational, esp if the country is facing threats from nuclear powers
What a wacky crew of people those strategists are for thinking that arming yourself in response to threats is rational.
Thankfully W took care of the weapons of mass destruction before Iraq had a chance to use them and, what, there were no weapons of mass destruction, but W and his cronies said there were?
And now we have Donald talking about war with Iran because they are so close to having a nuclear weapon, that's what he's saying.
And then we have the intelligence services, which trump knows more than anyone in any of the services about everything, saying Iran isn't even close to having a bomb. Since Donald says he operates on instinct and he says they are close, who do you believe? Trump or his intelligence operatives who were also wrong about putin and the 2016 election?
Who do you believe, trump or the intelligence services?
Trump says Iran is close to having a nuclear weapon but U.S. intelligence says otherwise
Trump says Iran is close to having a nuclear weapon but U.S. intelligence says otherwise
NBC News White House Correspondent Vaughn Hillyard, Senior National Security Correspondent Courtney Kube and retired Lt. Gen. Steph Twitty join Meet the Press NOW to discuss the Intelligence Community’s assessment that Iran isn’t close to creating a nuclear weapon, despite President Trump saying...www.yahoo.com
Never mind. I'm clearly talking at a level far above your grasp.There are eleventy gazillions of published documents from the USIC and the US military which are available for people who want information which is not "filtered through a mesh of LW propaganda and partisanship."
all you have to do is look for them
they are published on purpose
you do not need clearance to access them—only an internet connection
an informed electorate is good for national security after all
These are great resources for people who want to know things.
Feel free to ignore them in favor of information which is "filtered through a mesh of propaganda and partisanship." if you prefer.
Except Hussein didn't "divest." He didn't have those weapons because they were either destroyed by our cruise missiles or by U.N. inspectors. As yoy were shown, our intelligence was seriously flawed.He admitted to getting that wrong.
In 2002, no one believed that Saddam would divest, though he already had.
Anthrax is both.
True, false, true
I think you made my point.
And yet just days earlier, our intelligence was saying there was no evidence Iran was building nuclear weapons.Where do you think Trump gets his information? Duh. Except his isn't filtered through a mesh of LW propaganda and partisanship.
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