That pretty much has nothing at all to do with what I posted.Not dismissing them . They are out there , and most do Vote. A relative small number in Iowa in early 2008 derailed Romney at a key juncture for no other reason than his being LDS. Huckabee fed into that and his quiet view today - despite being a TV host has not changed much.
and I just explained where part of that doctrine originated...it was copied from other religions. There is much more in common with protestants that there are differences. People who seek out the differences and make issue of them are the ones who WANT to believe that their religion is superior....and all others are false...
Many have drifted away from the Church and become inactive. Two subgroups exist. Those who just want the inactivity (to be left alone from certain Church lifestyle) and those with an Axe to grind based on their experiences during their adolescence or possibly a Bad Marriage. Some even develop a super resentment against those in the Church who are seemingly prosperous and have a viable Well adjusted family .
I first heard it as a baptist back in the 60's.....You forgot the category of people who are only interested in accurate information about religious doctrine because they are intellectually curious.But, nice try at an ad hom. You know ad hominems are illogical, right? Kind of like the beliefs about the Mark of Cain.
I first heard it as a baptist back in the 60's.....
from wikipedia....
Historically, some Christians have interpreted the Biblical passages so that the "mark" is thought to be part of the "curse". In 18th century America and Europe, it was commonly assumed that Cain's "mark" was black skin[citation needed], and that Cain's descendants were black and still under Cain's curse.
Curse and mark of Cain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
also Argument - The Black Mark of Cain
Does the LDS church disallow the priesthood to any man of color today? Have they ever denied membership based on color?So, do you want to discuss the dark skins of the lamanites, or do you just want to keep playing with your strawman?
What I'm curious about is WHY anyone today in the US or the World is even remotely concerned about the influence or intentions of Mormons when there are much,much,bigger problems all around (???) The LDS Church based on their articles of Faith respects all laws whatever area they are i, and complies with local sensibilities. They also utterly respect the "Free Agency" of others including former members IF they wish to be left alone.
More like ALL of them....I'd also like to point out that MANY in LDS leadership positions are High Salaried Professionals with 3 figures or more income and regularly part with their 10% without question. Some could earn much more if they could devote more time to their careers. Also few have Children in Private Schools like a lot of Wine & Cheese Liberals do.
Yeah, they do, and it is almost as if they were some kind of "christian" religion....:2razz: That was sarcasm, of course....I have seen the LDS church help out non-members. And when a fund drive is done for a member of the community, you can expect at least $20,000 to be raised. We have had several people in the Logan, Utah area come down with rare and serious diseases in the 3 years we have lived here, and such fund raising draws donations from all over Cache Valley.Also If anyone in a Given Ward or Stake is beset with a sudden problem either some accident out of the blue, Family emergency or even Financial Hard times there is an immediate resource within the Church to help out. Not forever and obviously Family living elsewhere will be approached, but initially YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Obviously this is not unique to Mormons, but they are pound for pound more efficient at it. They take care of their own, and these is little gossip over it and 99% of whatever internal talk exists is not critical of those needing help but a genuine desire to help out.
Does the LDS church disallow the priesthood to any man of color today? Have they ever denied membership based on color?
I'd also like to point out that MANY in LDS leadership positions are High Salaried Professionals with 3 figures or more income and regularly part with their 10% without question. Some could earn much more if they could devote more time to their careers. Also few have Children in Private Schools like a lot of Wine & Cheese Liberals do.
They stopped teaching that in 1979 when the church leadership suddenly had a revelation that God had forgiven all "the descendants of Cain" and took it out of their doctrine. The fact that you said they still do and that "they were less valiant in the pre-existence" makes your knowledge of the LDS church and it's doctrine very suspect.Yes. The LDS Church teaches that people who have dark skin were less valiant in the pre-existence.
They stopped teaching that in 1979 when the church leadership suddenly had a revelation that God had forgiven all "the descendants of Cain" and took it out of their doctrine. The fact that you said they still do and that "they were less valiant in the pre-existence" makes your knowledge of the LDS church and it's doctrine very suspect.
The LDS church doesn't have a theology. What they have is a doctrine laid down by Joseph Smith. According to the doctrine the "curse of Cain" was God's punishment to all Cain's descendants that they would cursed with dark skin and while blacks could join the church, they could never hold the priesthood.
It's nonsense, but that is what it was Mormons believed until 1979. But many of the older Mormons still believe it, even if they don't talk about it anymore.
OMG. The mark of Cain applied ONLY to blacks. However, the book of Mormon STILL has scriptures that show that the Lamanites (native Americans) skins became dark because they rebelled against God. And, there is STILL a belief in the church that people with dark skins were less valiant in the pre-existence.
I've provided the scriptural references and additional supportive quotes from LDS Church presidents. And you have the audacity to call ME questionable? What have you contributed to this discussion, factually? You've provided ZERO evidence of your claims here.
I respect members of the LDS church for their devotion, but I think their theology is crazy. At Mormons (or any former Mormons/anyone who knows about Mormonism). Which book is more sacred? The Bible or the Book of Mormon? Who is more important/holy, Jesus or Joseph Smith?
Where in the BoM does it say the Lamanites are the native Americans aka red skins?OMG. The mark of Cain applied ONLY to blacks. However, the book of Mormon STILL has scriptures that show that the Lamanites (native Americans) skins became dark because they rebelled against God. And, there is STILL a belief in the church that people with dark skins were less valiant in the pre-existence.
I've provided the scriptural references and additional supportive quotes from LDS Church presidents. And you have the audacity to call ME questionable? What have you contributed to this discussion, factually? You've provided ZERO evidence of your claims here.
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