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Is there any way to cure a truther?[W:2707]

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I agree that we don't know the full story. And there are probably even some blatant lies in the official one. That doesn't mean every theory is true. There are so many versions of the conspiracy theory. Which one is true?

It's not so much a theory as a demonstrable fact, but what is true is that the "official one", as you put it, is a lie.

Some exact details will never be known, but it's very clear that the official story is a bright and shining lie, to borrow from decades past. ;)
 
This is why no rational people take CTists seriously. Who's responsible? Bush? The Illuminati? The Jews?

I'm not certain who is responsible, but I don't need to know exactly who is responsible in order to understand I was deceived on that day. How 'bout you?
 
I'm not certain who is responsible, but I don't need to know exactly who is responsible in order to understand I was deceived on that day. How 'bout you?

And continue to be deceived by truthers up to this day and beyond. Sheeple are always easily led by those who would manipulate them and truthers are the ultimate sheeple
 
And continue to be deceived by truthers up to this day and beyond. Sheeple are always easily led by those who would manipulate them and truthers are the ultimate sheeple

funny how he doesn't know who was responsible, what exactly happened or how it was carried out but he is 100% convinced that it didn't happen the way the official story (and 99% of all sane people) says it did.
 
funny how he doesn't know who was responsible, what exactly happened or how it was carried out but he is 100% convinced that it didn't happen the way the official story (and 99% of all sane people) says it did.

Just exactly how do you define "sane"?

enquiring minds
& all that rot!
 
It's not so much a theory as a demonstrable fact, but what is true is that the "official one", as you put it, is a lie.

Some exact details will never be known, but it's very clear that the official story is a bright and shining lie, to borrow from decades past. ;)

Don't put words in my mouth. I said there are probably blatant lord in the story.
 
One thing is certain, no matter what "really" happened...it's all Bush's fault

The Shrub was an ACTOR
a minor player in the whole scene.
Cheney is at least an accessory to the crime.
however, before we start getting indictments, lets be sure to have properly defined
WHAT happened. before attempting to get anybody prosecuted for the crime.
 
The Shrub was an ACTOR
a minor player in the whole scene.
Cheney is at least an accessory to the crime.
however, before we start getting indictments, lets be sure to have properly defined
WHAT happened. before attempting to get anybody prosecuted for the crime.

So what do you think happened?
 
The Shrub was an ACTOR
a minor player in the whole scene.
Cheney is at least an accessory to the crime.
however, before we start getting indictments, lets be sure to have properly defined
WHAT happened. before attempting to get anybody prosecuted for the crime.

define away.
 
The Shrub was an ACTOR
a minor player in the whole scene.
Cheney is at least an accessory to the crime.
however, before we start getting indictments, lets be sure to have properly defined
WHAT happened.
before attempting to get anybody prosecuted for the crime.

I agree with the bolded now answer the question!

Do you think that regardless of the force involved the wings could not penetrate the buildings because aluminum is not as hard as steel?

It is a simple question that any one who has taken high school physics should be able to answer
 
Re: Is there any way to cure a truther?

Havent beem to Jref for a while.
It is near dead - a couple of live threads for medium level discussion. No serious stuff for at least a year. Mostly trolling and "counter trolling" which is not my scene. The fun here is a couple of new trolls and one gameplayer to watch and occasionally carve up in little pieces. In fact the first "big and serious" post I made here was the OP to the "Inevitability" thread. I trialled it on JREF with one (the #3 rank current) of the regular trolls who occasionally makes reasonable comments. I tend to apply the two posts rule when trolls slip up and say something sensible. It's very rare for the troll to follow through with a reasoned "come back". So little different to here. I don't go much for describing trolls as truthers over there. The behaviours are easily distinguished. And there or here I tend to avoid describing the person for obvious reasons....I'm still a moderator/lawyer at heart from a couple of previous lives.
I am assuming from your post that Beachnut is rather caustic with truthers.
Yes. His specific style is that he posts a shotgun blast of debunker aside truisms without regard to what the truther/troll actually said. He has a collection of standard "boiler plate" segments of response. So typically responds with 6-8 points which are usually irrelevant to the T/T's claim. Maybe one or two points which are relevant but no guarantee. Then when it is aircraft ops he fires the full broadside of technically spot on stuff.
Id probably llike him :)
Yes. His politics is to the right of mine - but then I'm AU so most US politics is "right" by AU standards. "Social" and words derived from it are not automatically judged to be swear words in AU. ;)
 
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Don't put words in my mouth. I said there are probably blatant lord in the story.

I didn't put words in your mouth, and I don't understand what "blatant lord" means. :confused:
 
funny how he doesn't know who was responsible, what exactly happened or how it was carried out but he is 100% convinced that it didn't happen the way the official story (and 99% of all sane people) says it did.

Sane people or gullible people? And 99% is not an accurate number, whichever way you want to cut it.

For the disinterested observer, and it seems that excludes yourself, when everybody that was there and all the pictures taken at Shanksville show no Boeing, then it's obvious that there was no Boeing at Shanksville. Think OCCAM'S RAZOR, if you're familiar.

Common Sense--if you're familiar.
 
Blatant lies****

Anyway, what's your theory of 9/11?

My theory is that the events of the day were staged. Inside job, false flag, whatever one wishes to call it.
 
How, by whom, and for what purpose?

I can address the purpose, for that is obvious on many levels, but not complete. That is, I suspect there were many purposes, many goals and many beneficiaries.

Obviously, to get some wars started. Military Industrial Complex run amok, as Ike warned about in 1961. That implies imperialist gains for minerals and other natural resources found in the middle east.

Obviously, to scare hell out of the populace, and thereby assault the Constitution and the rule of law. Bureaucratic enhancement, as we now have as a direct result the illegitimate USA Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, the recent amendment of NDAA, and of course the glorious cabinet level (brand new) DHS.
 
Sane people or gullible people? And 99% is not an accurate number, whichever way you want to cut it.

For the disinterested observer, and it seems that excludes yourself, when everybody that was there and all the pictures taken at Shanksville show no Boeing, then it's obvious that there was no Boeing at Shanksville. Think OCCAM'S RAZOR, if you're familiar.

Common Sense--if you're familiar.

Nonsense, only someone who has drunk the Kool-Aid and has NO knowledge of aviation could say there was nmo plane at Shanksville.
Common sense is something that every truther is lacking along with logic and reason.
 
I can address the purpose, for that is obvious on many levels, but not complete. That is, I suspect there were many purposes, many goals and many beneficiaries.

Obviously, to get some wars started. Military Industrial Complex run amok, as Ike warned about in 1961. That implies imperialist gains for minerals and other natural resources found in the middle east.

Obviously, to scare hell out of the populace, and thereby assault the Constitution and the rule of law. Bureaucratic enhancement, as we now have as a direct result the illegitimate USA Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, the recent amendment of NDAA, and of course the glorious cabinet level (brand new) DHS.

More BS from the king himself. HD tell us again about how ground effect would have prevented the plane from hitting the Pentagon. Come on you are a "flight instructor" you should be used to explaining such simple concepts to people.
:lamo
 
My theory is that the events of the day were staged. Inside job, false flag, whatever one wishes to call it.

No HD that is your fantasy based on a complete lack of knowledge in the fields of aviation and physics and an overwhelming desire to blame the "ebil govt" for everything.
 
Gawd Quagster, have you only 1 arrow in your quiver? :3oops:
 
Gawd Quagster, have you only 1 arrow in your quiver? :3oops:

Well since you have proven yourself unwilling/unable to answer simple questions why would I need to use any others?
Your failure to adress your pathetic excuse of ground effect preventing the plane from hitting the Pentagon is just as telling as MK's refusal to answer a simple physics question. Both of you like to throw out nonsense and hope that people are gullible enough to believe it. Only problem is the gullible people are already truthers. Fact is you know you are full of it and that is why you refuse to answer.
So untill you man up (which we all know will never happen with you or any other truther) I will continue to point out that every pôst of yours is either total BS or as with the case of most of your psychobable lately just a description of yourself.
 
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