Is there any way to cure a truther?[W:2707]

[Mark F]

Lawyereze for
WE GONNA WEASEL OUT OF THIS USING ANY SICK PERVERTED TRICK POSSIBLE.

Question 4 U
do YOU actually buy it
that is the alleged FLT175 crash into the south wall of the south tower,
I'm not talking about alleged second hand reports from other people
can YOU look at the video and say that YOU believe it to be an honest
representation of a REAL airliner crashing into a REAL wall?

what? am I asking too much?

Evasion of the question at hand exactly as I predicted. Any reason why when cornered to present something specific you always try to change the subject? Why do you refuse to present your own case?

Sorry, I asked first so here we go one more time:

What order (specificallydid Mayor Guiliani give? When did he give it? To whom? What evidence did this effect? How do we know this information? Is the source reliable? Why is this relevant to the investigation (how does it change or support what we know)?

 

[Menard_K]

Evasion of the question at hand exactly as I predicted. Any reason why when cornered to present something specific you always try to change the subject? Why do you refuse to present your own case?

Sorry, I asked first so here we go one more time:

What order (specificallydid Mayor Guiliani give? When did he give it? To whom? What evidence did this effect? How do we know this information? Is the source reliable? Why is this relevant to the investigation (how does it change or support what we know)?

Here is the real deal on this, the MAYOR has not only the authority, but the responsibility
that is of some nameless, faceless bureaucrat ... low level minion ordered the removal of
material from Ground Zero, the MAYOR is still in charge and gets busted if the order is
found to be in violation of the law. NOW DO U GET IT?

 

[OscarB63]

I'm insanely curious now. If it wasn't a plane that crashed into the south tower, what pray-tell do you believe it was?

It was a hologram. all the damage was caused by explosives. planted in the dead of night by super secret Bush ningas. arranged to make it look like a plane has hit.

 

[mike2810]

Here is the real deal on this, the MAYOR has not only the authority, but the responsibility
that is of some nameless, faceless bureaucrat ... low level minion ordered the removal of
material from Ground Zero, the MAYOR is still in charge and gets busted if the order is
found to be in violation of the law. NOW DO U GET IT?

You did not answer the question. Is it your stance no search and rescue should have started on 911?
Have you researched how the material was handled that was removed?
Your statements are not supported by evidence. The removal and screening of the debris was quite extensive. IMO, your allegations are showing your lack of research and understanding what went on after the collapse.

"After the September 11, 2001 attacks, Fresh Kills was temporarily used as a sorting ground for roughly one third of the rubble from Ground Zero. More than 1600 personal effects were retrieved during this time. About two million tons of material obtained from Ground Zero were taken to the landfill for sorting.[7] Thousands of detectives and forensic evidence specialists worked for over 1.7 million hours at Fresh Kills Landfill to try to recover remnants of the people killed in the attacks. A final count of 4,257 human remains were recovered, and from those, 300 people were identified. A memorial is being built to honor those that were not able to be identified in all of the debris from the attack.[8] The remaining debris was buried in a 40-acre (160,000 m2) portion of the landfill; it is highly likely that this debris still contains fragmentary human remains.[9]

Here is some info for you.

http://911depository.info/PDFs/Othe...nc - World Trade Center Forensic Recovery.pdf
http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/exhibits/longterm/documents/recovery.pdf


Fresh Kills Landfill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Photos: NYC sifts for 9/11 remains at Staten Island's former Fresh Kills landfill | SILive.com

 

[booNyzarC]

It was a hologram. all the damage was caused by explosives. planted in the dead of night by super secret Bush ningas. arranged to make it look like a plane has hit.

Holy Moley! We must put out the word!!!11!1!!!!11!!!!

 

[OscarB63]

Holy Moley! We must put out the word!!!11!1!!!!11!!!!

dude, I don't know if it was MK, but there has been one poster on here who has been trying to float the "hologram" fairy tale for months. I do know that MK put out a theory of how explosives could have been placed on the outside of the building to make it look like something had crashed into it.

 

[booNyzarC]

dude, I don't know if it was MK, but there has been one poster on here who has been trying to float the "hologram" fairy tale for months. I do know that MK put out a theory of how explosives could have been placed on the outside of the building to make it look like something had crashed into it.

On the outside? Really? Hmm, I wonder what the source of that thought process could possibly be.

 

[ozeco41]

On the outside? Really? Hmm, I wonder what the source of that thought process could possibly be.

Surely thou dost jest?

 

[Mark F]

Here is the real deal on this, the MAYOR has not only the authority, but the responsibility
that is of some nameless, faceless bureaucrat ... low level minion ordered the removal of
material from Ground Zero, the MAYOR is still in charge and gets busted if the order is
found to be in violation of the law. NOW DO U GET IT?

What order?
What material?
Removed by whom?
Removed when?
What happened to this material?

Why do you repeatedly and invariably go out of your way to avoid providing the minimum detail necessary to back up your own claims?

 

[Menard_K]

What order?
What material?
Removed by whom?
Removed when?
What happened to this material?

Why do you repeatedly and invariably go out of your way to avoid providing the minimum detail necessary to back up your own claims?

Please take note that there are photographers on the payroll of every county in this land
who have the job description of documenting various events that are relevant to law enforcement.
I ask WHY is it that 9/11/2001 is the most poorly documented disaster since the invention of photography?
what is going on around here?

The evidence was carted off to Fresh Kills land fill before any pictures could be done to document
what the rubble pile looked like..... why?

I point out the fact that the TOP GEAR guys as a stunt
put a pickup truck on top of a building to be demolished by explosives
and the result of this stunt was that the truck was to be found on top
of the rubble and somewhat beat-up, but recognizable as a truck.
Clearly this confirms the hypothesis that the top most bits are the least
damaged in the case of a controlled demolition, so it would be quite
interesting to see the bits on the top of the rubble pile, such as the items
belonging to the restaurant at the top of one of the towers, kitchen gear for
a restaurant is quite substantial and if the TOP GEAR pick-up truck survived,
I could very well expect that a goodly quantity of kitchen gear would also survive
if not completely functional, but recognizable as stoves ( etc .... )
However, at least in the records that have been revealed, there are NO recognizable
bits that is Refrigerators, Stoves, iron pots ( etc.... ) that survived the "collapse"
and one may very well ask WHY is this? The complete & total destruction of not
only the structure, but ALL of the stuff inside the building..... whats up with that?

May I take this opportunity also to address the "ROOSD" bit
has anybody not seen the science class demo that involves a cardboard tube
( paper towel roll works great for this ) you pour sand through the tube and
as expected it flows through, to a point, if you pour too fast the sand packs
up in the tube and nothing moves. Now in the case of the towers, it would
only take the destruction of 10 floors to produce plenty of rubble to pack the
space available and thus transfer loading to the core & wall, without therefore
imposing a total catastrophic over-load on the deck below.
Unless of course the ejection of mass quantities of pulverized material
greatly reduced the mass of stuff still inside the tower, and thus reducing
the mass of the "pile driver" ....

just a bit of food for thought ......

enjoy .......

 

[Mark F]

Well, you almost managed to actually answer a direct question. I knew it was asking too much for you to stay on topic long enough to actually accomplish the task,...

Please take note that there are photographers on the payroll of every county in this land
who have the job description of documenting various events that are relevant to law enforcement.
I ask WHY is it that 9/11/2001 is the most poorly documented disaster since the invention of photography?
what is going on around here?

So your claim then is that every single person who snapped a photo or a video on 9/11 was a paid government shill? And did the evidence for this also get extracted from your hindquarters?

The evidence was carted off to Fresh Kills land fill before any pictures could be done to document
what the rubble pile looked like..... why?

Obviously never heard of this new thing called "Google", have you?

https://www.google.com/search?q=ite...bih=955#q=ground+zero+debris&spell=1&tbm=isch

I point out the fact that the TOP GEAR guys as a stunt
put a pickup truck on top of a building to be demolished by explosives
and the result of this stunt was that the truck was to be found on top
of the rubble and somewhat beat-up, but recognizable as a truck.
Clearly this confirms the hypothesis that the top most bits are the least
damaged in the case of a controlled demolition, so it would be quite
interesting to see the bits on the top of the rubble pile, such as the items
belonging to the restaurant at the top of one of the towers, kitchen gear for
a restaurant is quite substantial and if the TOP GEAR pick-up truck survived,
I could very well expect that a goodly quantity of kitchen gear would also survive
if not completely functional, but recognizable as stoves ( etc .... )
However, at least in the records that have been revealed, there are NO recognizable
bits that is Refrigerators, Stoves, iron pots ( etc.... ) that survived the "collapse"
and one may very well ask WHY is this? The complete & total destruction of not
only the structure, but ALL of the stuff inside the building..... whats up with that?

Duh, the Hilux wasn't in the building and the building was a fraction of the size of those destroyed on 9/11.

May I take this opportunity also to address the "ROOSD" bit
has anybody not seen the science class demo that involves a cardboard tube
( paper towel roll works great for this ) you pour sand through the tube and
as expected it flows through, to a point, if you pour too fast the sand packs
up in the tube and nothing moves. Now in the case of the towers, it would
only take the destruction of 10 floors to produce plenty of rubble to pack the
space available and thus transfer loading to the core & wall, without therefore
imposing a total catastrophic over-load on the deck below.
Unless of course the ejection of mass quantities of pulverized material
greatly reduced the mass of stuff still inside the tower, and thus reducing
the mass of the "pile driver" ....

just a bit of food for thought ......

enjoy .......

Food for thought - not really. You are missing a major element here and I bet you can't figure out what it is.

Now, if I may,.... we still have unfinished business that you are avoiding.

What order?
What material?
Removed by whom?
Removed when?
What happened to this material?

 

[Menard_K]

Now, if I may,.... we still have unfinished business that you are avoiding.

What order?
What material?
Removed by whom?
Removed when?
What happened to this material?

OK, you win
it really was 19 radical Arabs armed with box cutters .....

GOOD NIGHT!

 

[booNyzarC]

OK, you win
it really was 19 radical Arabs armed with box cutters .....

GOOD NIGHT!

I think the world is about to end.

 

[Mark F]

I think the world is about to end.

Is that four men on horseback I see?

This guy will do anything not to answer a direct question

 

[booNyzarC]

Is that four men on horseback I see?

This guy will do anything not to answer a direct question

Well, the world may end tonight, but tomorrow is another day...

 

[Kat Dorman]

Re: Is there any way to cure a truther?

So here we have an anonymous person asking for my professional engineering status. The nerve just doesn't stop does it?

Of course, I stand by what I have said here and my comments are certainly in keeping with my education and experience. In case you aren't aware, mechanical engineering curriculums contain a number of physics courses and most of the work we do every day involves physical principles.

I've decided to file a complaint with Tony's licensing agency.

 

[Kat Dorman]

Re: Is there any way to cure a truther?

Aww, shucks, I forgot he's apparently not licensed.

 

[Kat Dorman]

Maybe I'll just report his incompetence and dishonesty to AE911Truth.

 

[Kat Dorman]

In case anyone was wondering (probably not) why the sudden bug up my ass... I googled "OneWhiteEye" and "shill"... you know, just to see how many people are on to my game. :lamo

Which led me to the shill accusations Tony made against me way back in this thread. I'm not feeling as kindly towards that bull**** as I once was. It would be nice to have an independent arbiter slap him down once and for all.

 

[Buck Naked]

In case anyone was wondering (probably not) why the sudden bug up my ass... I googled "OneWhiteEye" and "shill"... you know, just to see how many people are on to my game. :lamo

Which led me to the shill accusations Tony made against me way back in this thread. I'm not feeling as kindly towards that bull**** as I once was. It would be nice to have an independent arbiter slap him down once and for all.

You should get that ego thingy checked out, it usually just fogs up the mind.

I don't think you are a shill, but if you were more consistent with your analysis and focused it more towards FEMA's and NIST's hypotheses, perhaps others wouldn't lump you so much with the company you primarily keep.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

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