Is there any way to cure a truther?[W:2707]

[Menard_K]

Although I do admit that it is surprising that a wing could possible have gone through a wall composed mostly of glass!

You mean like this:

 

[Menard_K]

I'm saying that if you tell me you threw a grape through a brick wall, I'm not going to take you seriously unless you can tell me how it was done.

so for something like a wing going through a wall, you simply accept that
because the talking heads on TV told you that was the way it was supposed to be?

 

[OldWorldOrder]

The alternative, of course, being that they put little tiny bombs along where the wings would go, to fool people.

 

[OscarB63]

so for something like a wing going through a wall, you simply accept that
because the talking heads on TV told you that was the way it was supposed to be?

I accept that it is more likely that a metal wing traveling at high speed went through a glass wall, than "somehow", "somebody" was able to plant explosives along the wall to make it look like a plane hit it and then fake multiple videos of a plane hitting the wall.

 

[Quag]

You mean like this:
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Yup! Why is it so hard for you to comprehend?

 

[OscarB63]

so for something like a wing going through a wall, you simply accept that
because the talking heads on TV told you that was the way it was supposed to be?

I accept the live video I saw on the day it happened as being more likey true than some fanatsy about mystery explosives that some truther can't even explain.

 

[OscarB63]

The alternative, of course, being that they put little tiny bombs along where the wings would go, to fool people.

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little tiny invisible bombs. planted in the dead of night 100+ stories up on the outside of the building by ninjas wearing antigravity suits

 

[Menard_K]

little tiny invisible bombs. planted in the dead of night 100+ stories up on the outside of the building by ninjas wearing antigravity suits

How about THIS, ( & I present this as total speculation, but much more probable than your post ) There is a mechanism for lowering over the side of the building window washers, and in that same sort of operation people could be lowered from roof level down to the location where they wanted to place the explosives and then hide the explosives in the aluminum facade because that bit was hollow.

 

[Quag]

How about THIS, ( & I present this as total speculation, but much more probable than your post ) There is a mechanism for lowering over the side of the building window washers, and in that same sort of operation people could be lowered from roof level down to the location where they wanted to place the explosives and then hide the explosives in the aluminum facade because that bit was hollow.

Hmm hollow aluminum facade, Yup that would stand up to a Boeings wing impacting it a 500mph!

 

[OldWorldOrder]

How about THIS, ( & I present this as total speculation, but much more probable than your post ) There is a mechanism for lowering over the side of the building window washers, and in that same sort of operation people could be lowered from roof level down to the location where they wanted to place the explosives and then hide the explosives in the aluminum facade because that bit was hollow.

Because that's more likely to have caused that damage than the wings of the plane flying into it. Sure. lol

 

[Menard_K]

Hmm hollow aluminum facade, Yup that would stand up to a Boeings wing impacting it a 500mph!

did you forget that there was STEEL behind the cosmetic bit in front?

 

[OscarB63]

How about THIS, ( & I present this as total speculation, but much more probable than your post ) There is a mechanism for lowering over the side of the building window washers, and in that same sort of operation people could be lowered from roof level down to the location where they wanted to place the explosives and then hide the explosives in the aluminum facade because that bit was hollow.

so we have a crew of guys, in the dark, lowering themselves over the side of, not one but two buildings, planting shaped charges in the outline of a plane. is that it?

and then, somehow, the gubbermint is able to convince dozens (if not hundreds or thousands) of people to fake videos of planes hitting the buildings at just the instant the explosives are detonated.

and then, somehow, the gubbermint is able to convince tens of thousands of people in the streets below that they actually saw planes hitting the buildings.


sure, that's completely plausible. much more so than that there were actually planes that hit the buildings and that the fast moving metal wings of the plane were able to break through glass and a hollow aluminum facade.


glory be to sweet baby jeebus. I have seen the light. I am now a bonifide troofer.

 

[OscarB63]

did you forget that there was STEEL behind the cosmetic bit in front?

did you forget that any explosives hidden behind the cosmetic bit in front would have blown it outward and not inward as shown in the photos?

 

[Menard_K]

so we have a crew of guys, in the dark, lowering themselves over the side of, not one but two buildings, planting shaped charges in the outline of a plane. is that it?

and then, somehow, the gubbermint is able to convince dozens (if not hundreds or thousands) of people to fake videos of planes hitting the buildings at just the instant the explosives are detonated.

and then, somehow, the gubbermint is able to convince tens of thousands of people in the streets below that they actually saw planes hitting the buildings.


sure, that's completely plausible. much more so than that there were actually planes that hit the buildings and that the fast moving metal wings of the plane were able to break through glass and a hollow aluminum facade.


glory be to sweet baby jeebus. I have seen the light. I am now a bonifide troofer.

You forgot to mention the STEEL structure that was behind the cosmetic bit.
also, just exactly how many videos of "FLT175"
( including the angle that shows the alleged penetration ) exist?

and for the record, how many people recorded either by way of post 9/11
interviews or by speaking to the news media, that they actually laid eyes upon and airliner that day?

 

[Menard_K]

did you forget that any explosives hidden behind the cosmetic bit in front would have blown it outward and not inward as shown in the photos?

depends a lot on how said charges were engineered, the aluminum was light & easily blown away,
and the steel would be the part that needed the serious cutter charges.

 

[Quag]

did you forget that there was STEEL behind the cosmetic bit in front?

It wouldn't have mattered. Why do you think it would?

 

[Menard_K]

It wouldn't have mattered. Why do you think it would?

wouldn't have mattered? WHAT? WHY would it not matter that there was STEEL behind the
cosmetic bits on the side of the building?

 

[Quag]

wouldn't have mattered? WHAT? WHY would it not matter that there was STEEL behind the
cosmetic bits on the side of the building?

F=MA
We had tons of mass and crap loads of acceleration.
So why do you think it couldn't have?
What scientific knowledge do you posses that discounts F=MA?
Seriously you get spanked every single time you try to enter the scientific arena haven't you figured it out yet?
JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT DOES NOT MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE!

 

[ozeco41]

JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT DOES NOT MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE!

The classic truthers "False Dilemma" -- "I dont understand therefore [CD|No Plane|whatever]"

All that "I don't understand" proves is "I don't understand" - and we already knew that.

 

[ozeco41]

It wouldn't have mattered. Why do you think it would?

"think"????

Do you have any evidence to support that assumption?

OR do you mean "believe"? :roll:

 

[Thoreau72]

I'm saying that if you tell me you threw a grape through a brick wall, I'm not going to take you seriously unless you can tell me how it was done.

Right, but if the government tells you it threw a grape through a brick wall, you accept it, no questions asked. :doh

 

[OscarB63]

Right, but if the government tells you it threw a grape through a brick wall, you accept it, no questions asked. :doh

that's not what the govt is saying. but nice try.

 

[ozeco41]

Right, but if the government tells you it threw a grape through a brick wall, you accept it, no questions asked. :doh

I presume the experiment would be in vacuo for the obvious reasons.

 

[Thoreau72]

that's not what the govt is saying. but nice try.

By way of the OCT, the government has told you the equivalent in absurdity to a grape going through a wall. A preposterous story that cannot withstand even superficial scrutiny, yet you embrace it as gospel because the government has told you to.

Is that an appeal to authority?

 

[SanderO]

By way of the OCT, the government has told you the equivalent in absurdity to a grape going through a wall. A preposterous story that cannot withstand even superficial scrutiny, yet you embrace it as gospel because the government has told you to.

Is that an appeal to authority?

Bad analogy. And someone can accept something as true even if the statement is made by a known liar. The person accepts the truth because of its merits not because of WHO has told you its true.