Re: Is there any way to cure a truther?
First, I am not a scholar by any means and clearly not respected... just opinionated and someone who has tried to avail himself of alternate sources of news. I don't gather news I consume it and so I need to evaluate the quality of the new presenters.
Assange is probably not what he appears to be. However I don't think he is a CIA asset /agent or dupe. I haven't read the cables but only heard their contents referred to and the thing which seems to piss of the state is the fact that the security has been breached and good band and indifferent are or can see some light. MSM reporters are incapable of doing anything but stenography. Manning, Hammond and Assange are violating the absurd secrecy which cloaks the state. Much of it covering criminal activity. CIA is at its core a criminal agency engaged in mostly illegal activities which managed to be sanctioned by congress because their mission must be secret to protect the state (secrets and more). CIA ops are the stuff of foreign policy, with the state department being just the fig leaf of respectability over the hegemonic agenda. State is probably a conduit for communications ... of illegal activities and Wkileaks appears to expose the sham.
Trials today are with packed juries and bought judges when needed. They are nothing more than show trials. I think Hammond and Manning are being made examples to scare anyone who might leak this info. Clearly the nasty stuff does get to pass before innocent eyes who SHOULD expose the criminality but are so intimidated by the State they don't... and these trials and Aaron Swartz are meant to send this message. There are other hackers that at paying dearly for doing the right thing.
I lived through the Nixon Era and thought that Ellsberg was his own man. No one was releasing all the BS about Nam and he did it and it was one of the things which led to the end of the war. Nixon believed whatever he did as president was legal. He was wrong but future presidents thought the same.
Woodward is not a good fellow. He got rid of Nixon but not the corruption of the CIA, intel, FBI and the Pentagon. Nixon was not one of them and so they could care less about him. CIA seems to be running things since JFK was taken out. He wanted to give a mighty haircut to the national security state. NSS is not going to let democracy get in the way.
The more you look, the more spooks were around Watergate than you can imagine.
Skolnick on Woodwards father …
“Chief Judge Woodward had a strange background. Previously he had been with both the army AND the navy intelligence agencies. HOW was that possible? ”
The Overthrow Of The American Republic – Part 75 Bob Woodward Coverup
Overthrow Of American Republic - Bob Woodward Coverup
With regards to Bob Woodward, I have read some of his books and its obvious he is commissioned to write stenography, and its not just a payback in return for access to sources.Some writers are embedded and have always been. Ronald Kesslers astounding book, “Inside the CIA” was followed by a similar “Inside the FBI” which was OK but limp, calculated and servile in its critiques, although imformative. Since his CIA book shook the world, Kessler became just another Howard Kurtz, in other words, useless.
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More below from Russ Baker, a supposed journo veteran of many publications, writing at Hustler, havent heard of him until the last year:
LarryFlynt.com » Blog Archive » BOB WOODWARD THE STORY HE WON’T TELL
Note: Both Baker and Skolnick use as a source “Silent Coup: The Removal of A President” by Len Colodny and Robert Gettlin, a book with sources, stories supplied by villian G.Gordon Liddy. Both John Dean and History Commons website call the book “fairytales” or a book to revive the Nixon legacy, (all debates aside) there seems to be a mountain of evidence Woodward was an intel agent. Russ Bakers work appears flawless, confirming many facts about Cointelpro we learned from the film JFK II, see my JFK thread.
Rewriting History:
“Family of Secrets” by Russ Baker,
REVIEWED BY DIANA LEE
Rewriting History: Family of Secrets by Russ Baker
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Anyway more about Woodward
“Ben Bradlee was the Post’s managing editor during most of the Cold War. He worked in the U.S. Paris embassy from 1951 to 1953, where he followed orders by the CIA station chief to place propaganda in the European press.”
“Furthermore, Watergate was exposed by the CIA’s main newspaper in America, The Washington Post. One of the two journalists who investigated the scandal, Robert Woodward, had only recently become a journalist. Previously Woodward had worked as a Naval intelligence liaison to the White House, privy to some of the nation’s highest secrets. He would later write a sympathetic portrait of CIA Director Bill Casey in a book entitled Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA.”
The Origins of the Overclass
Daily Kos: Bob Woodward...ALL smoke and mirrors?
THE TRUTH about CIA Director Casey? read “the Last Days of the CIA” by Mark Perry
Sympathetic? Sheesh, CIA director Casey only was responsible for creating Al Queda, (not Brezinski), arming Saddam with chemical weapons that killed hundreds of thousands in Iran/Iraq war, and making it so Saddam won that war thru direct aid and satellite imagery your taxes bought, other wise he would have lost that war.
Some say Colby who is seen testifying, paid for this by being mysteriously killed in retirement. An interesting investigation on the mysterious death of Colby who defied the CIA and testified at the Church committee about Mockingbird/Cointelpro, when ordered not to. I dont know if you read the William Colby killing story I posted in this thread, but after heading up the horrific Pheonix Program in Vietnam and those war crimes/ atrocities,he too may have had his conscience nagging him, so against the direct orders of the CIA prohibiting him from doing so, he testified before the Church Committee. Certainly no hero, I believe he paid for this with his life. And if Snowden is genuine, the auhtorities will make another Bradley Manning of him dont you think?
WHO MURDERED THE CIA CHIEF?
