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Is the goal now to overwhelm everyone with atrocities and war crimes?

Felis Leo said:
I think we are past that point, Fledermaus. We have been given no reason to believe the IDF would stop killing Gazans by the thousands even if the last Israeli hostages were released or their bodies recovered. The Israel government has made it clear that the hostages are no longer their top priority. They will use the pretext that they are going to eliminate Hamas to prevent another October 7th do so. And since all civil services in Gaza were ultimately controlled by Hamas, Israel can always say whenever they kill a doctor or engineer or nurse along with their entire family and their neighbors that they were only going after a nascent terrorist cell.
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As long as you believe your own nonsense.
We are nearly 2 years into this conflict and Palestinians are still alive in Gaza with the same amounts and aren't going anywhere.
Your demonization is classic material for German youth movements under the Nazi regime.
 
Apocalypse said:
As long as you believe your own nonsense.
We are nearly 2 years into this conflict and Palestinians are still alive in Gaza with the same amounts and aren't going anywhere.
Your demonization is classic material for German youth movements under the Nazi regime.
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More than 55,000 Palestinians have been killed in the Israel-Hamas war, Gaza health officials say | The Associated Press

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — The Palestinian death toll from the 20-month Israel-Hamas war passed 55,000, the Gaza Health Ministry said
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Barbarism.
 
The Brad Dad said:
www.ap.org

More than 55,000 Palestinians have been killed in the Israel-Hamas war, Gaza health officials say | The Associated Press

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — The Palestinian death toll from the 20-month Israel-Hamas war passed 55,000, the Gaza Health Ministry said
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Barbarism.
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They stopped counting when? A year ago? That number has easily doubled if not quadrupled by now. Especially since we know that Israeli soldiers have been given free reign to gun down groups of unarmed people and bury them in shallow graves when the mood strikes them. We only found out about these folks because they were aid workers. How many hundreds more shallow mass graves litter the Gaza Strip?
 
The Brad Dad said:
www.ap.org

More than 55,000 Palestinians have been killed in the Israel-Hamas war, Gaza health officials say | The Associated Press

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — The Palestinian death toll from the 20-month Israel-Hamas war passed 55,000, the Gaza Health Ministry said
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I'm aware of Hamas-provided numbers, I'm also aware there are still over 2 million Palestinians in Gaza and this hasn't changed in nearly 2 years of intensive warfare against the Hamas terrorists.
 
Apocalypse said:
I'm aware of Hamas-provided numbers, I'm also aware there are still over 2 million Palestinians in Gaza and this hasn't changed in nearly 2 years of intensive warfare against the Hamas terrorists.
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Are there? Who ran that census and when, Apocalypse?
 
Felis Leo said:
Are there? Who ran that census and when, Apocalypse?
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About 100k left and Hamas claims 55k dead. Even if you double the dead it's still above 2 million. Sorry to disappoint you if you were counting on more casualties.
 
Felis Leo said:
They stopped counting when? A year ago? That number has easily doubled if not quadrupled by now. Especially since we know that Israeli soldiers have been given free reign to gun down groups of unarmed people and bury them in shallow graves when the mood strikes them. We only found out about these folks because they were aid workers. How many hundreds more shallow mass graves litter the Gaza Strip?
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We heard about it because the IDF reported the incident to the UN with the location of the medical aid workers.
Incidents in war on terror aren't unique to Israel. Not even with medical workers involved. Cut the hypocrisy out.
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Kunduz hospital airstrike - Wikipedia

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Apocalypse said:
We heard about it because the IDF reported the incident to the UN with the location of the medical aid workers.
Incidents in war on terror aren't unique to Israel. Not even with medical workers involved. Cut the hypocrisy out.
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Kunduz hospital airstrike - Wikipedia

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I am against the war on terror. It was the greatest failure of the American government, and led to countless atrocities. I get to voice my opinion against my government because I am not a fascist and do not believe people have to act as corpuscles of the greater whole of their nation, their ethnic group or their religion.
 
Apocalypse said:
About 100k left and Hamas claims 55k dead. Even if you double the dead it's still above 2 million. Sorry to disappoint you if you were counting on more casualties.
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How many dead Palestinians are necessary then? Can we just round up if it’s not important and call it all off?
 
Fledermaus said:
And why hasn't it?

Isn't the death and destruction due to Hamas' invasion, destruction, killing and kidnapping and holding the hostages?
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Invasion of what? They’re a terrorist organization with no standing army. Israel has one of the most formidable militaries in the world, backed by nukes and the United States of America. It’s like telling me grass is at war with a lawn mower.
 
The Brad Dad said:
Invasion of what? They’re a terrorist organization with no standing army. Israel has one of the most formidable militaries in the world, backed by nukes and the United States of America. It’s like telling me grass is at war with a lawn mower.
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You weren't around for October 7th?

Interesting.

The are a both a political and terrorist group...

Their military wing INVADED Israel on October 7th.
 
Fledermaus said:
You weren't around for October 7th?

Interesting.

The are a both a political and terrorist group...

Their military wing INVADED Israel on October 7th.
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You mean the terrorist incident Israel’s government is using to deflect from genocide in Gaza as their very last solution to the “Palestinian problem”? That October 7? And as we watch the IDF bomb civilian aid operations and fire on people trying to get food, how much sympathy d you suppose is left for Oct 7th as the be all end all justification for such brutality?
 
The Brad Dad said:
How many dead Palestinians are necessary then? Can we just round up if it’s not important and call it all off?
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What's necessary is to ensure October 7 doesn't happen again.
 
Felis Leo said:
I am against the war on terror. It was the greatest failure of the American government, and led to countless atrocities. I get to voice my opinion against my government because I am not a fascist and do not believe people have to act as corpuscles of the greater whole of their nation, their ethnic group or their religion.
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But you don't demonize Americans the way you do Israelis, which is hypocritical to say the least.
 
Apocalypse said:
What's necessary is to ensure October 7 doesn't happen again.
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By performing the exact same actions that guaranteed Oct 7 in the first place. How many terrorists have been created in Gaza after watching their families slaughtered? How many American and Israel citizens’ lives will be claimed in their payback for all this payback? And then really brave Americans can bang on their laptops from their couches about how important it is that this time we crush ‘em good?
 
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