Is the DP Staff Liberally Biased?

[doughgirl]

Ptsdkid said, “Nearly every single one of my masterfully debatable postings get dumped to the basement. My "Are Liberals Godless" post was perfectly harmless intending to garner debate from both sides of the political spectrum. The title was taken from a bestseller book "Godless" by Ann Coulter for Pete's sake.

Where is the inflaming from my latest post "Should our presidents be Christian"? I presented factual statistics to the vast about of Christians that have help high political offices in America, yet the DP staff decided to send this one to the basement as well.

I notice that there are a couple of Conservative bashing type postings still breathing life here upstairs. Could it be that the liberally oriented DP staff has simply overlooked these postings? One such posting, "Why do Conservatives hate the free press"?--do Conservatives want to return society to a pre-Magna Carta sacred Monarchy...their hatred of the Constitution, the founding fathers, and love of torturing and slaughtering random Arabs seems to indicate that they do.

Could it be that the DP staff looks to silence the Conservative point of view?”

I will say this…….I’ve been participating here for almost 14 months now and I think things have gotten better than they use to be.

When I joined it seemed like one big teenage party and if you weren’t friends with the one throwing it, you were treated like crap, especially if you were Republican, pro-life and a Christian. It was attack full force on the “Right” by 9 out of 10 posters who were very liberal. At this time I felt that the moderators were not fair in any way especially to those who held conservative views and opinions.

I was warned several times ……and I noticed that those I was opposing were not. (friends seem to stick together)

It has gotten better and there isn’t that teenage gossip mentality anymore from the moderators, and posters. I think its gotten a lot better, 100% better.

I would just say ptskid that you keep doing what your doing and post what is in your heart. As long as you don’t swear and conduct yourself without personally attacking with vulgarities another person I don’t see why anything should get sent to the basement. Life is certainly not fair and I am sorry to say but I feel it’s the LIBERALS here who are the intolerant ones in seeing anyone elses view point.

Bottom line…..there are far more passionate LEFT WINGERS ON HERE…..then RIGHT WINGERS, and the moderators can’t help that. I think some on the RIGHT don’t want to rock the boat and get attacked by those on the LEFT so they don’t get into the verbal battles.

Vauge said, “ Conservatives often tend to be much more direct and get themselves into trouble faster.
I must say you dissapoint me by saying this especially when you indicate that you are very conservative.

You said,
“This is why Conservatives think DP is liberal - we go by the rules and keep emotions out of moderation.

Interestingly enough, many Liberals think DP is too Conservative because our moderators have discretion - thats illogical!”

That is because DP is more LIBERAL. Its more liberal in every way and on just about every topic. If you cant see that then……..man oh man.

You take the top debaters on here who post the most and who are here on a daily basis and 9-10 of them are very liberal. That is obvious. If a liberal wants to make a general comment on here about those who are conservative and in their opinion nut cases :rofl …. the same peoples names are mentioned. Especially NavyPride………God love him. The abuse he gets from the "TOLERANT" :rofl LEFT. But he keeps going and I am glad. He is one of the few who stand up for HIS beliefs. Hell some days in some threads if you’re a conservative christian its like Davy and Goliath.

The moderators have gotten like I said a lot better Vauge. As i said when I joined they were terrible.

niftydrifty said, “"Why are Liberals Godless?" ... yeah, that's a really gentle unloaded question.’

It’s a question worth debating to some. Are you saying no dumb threads were ever started by LIBERALS on here who wanted to start something? Liberals like to “HURT” they like to pour salt into the wounds…….especially in the abortion threads. They love to demean life, not necessarily because they feel it, but just to hurt those who really value life by opposing abortion. They love it, they think abortion is funny and they know those who are against abortion don’t think its funny. So they lurk around and say the same hurtful things over and over and over.

Lachean said, “Maybe when you learn how to title a thread properly, people wont laugh at you at face value.”

I don’t laugh at him. And you seem to always post replies dont you?

You don’t think these are stupid threads meant to start lively discussion and to pit people against each other?

If men could get pregnant?
Would you refuse to serve because of gay people?
Keep it or kill it?
The Worst President in History?

Come on most threads are started to pit people against each other.

Conservative-liberals…..pagans- Christians………Republicans-Democrats………..heterosexual-homosexual……….pro-choice-pro-life.
We all like to fight come on………


I could care less and always have what people think of me on here. I post what I feel and thank gosh there are others like me who do not cave into always saying the politically correct thing and stand on what they think to be true.

Am I emotional at times........you bet. But do I like Vague think that showing emotion is a weakness.......no, I think its shows compassion and humanness, something quite frankly I find lackin on the LIBERAL SIDE.

Did I just start a fight? :rofl

 

[jujuman13]

With regard to moving one's post without informing the poster as to where the thread was posted, yes I could agree with you that the moderators might feel inclined to look at that point, BUT, YOU do need to recognise that the moderators are real people, they have their own lives to live, they pursue other interests apart from moderating these threads.
Give them a break, they do a pretty good job generally, I say this even though I have on occasion been rebuked a few times by them.

Your thread leader. Is the DP Staff Liberally Biased?
My reply, they, in my opinion are NOT Liberally biased.

If you post a thread which asks whether a President should belong to any religion, you are asking for the religious viewpoints of whosoever responds to the question.
Asking for the posters religious viewpoint quite clearly puts the thread in a religious context, this means it belongs elsewhere other than where you originally posted it, either in the basement or the Religious section, or even, in my opinion in the nearest trashcan.
I see threads such as those are, designed to inflame those who might be tempted to respond to your views.
Finally I find it distasteful that you are the first to start 'name calling' whenever someone disagrees with your viewpoint, it is not only distasteful it is also rather childish, you should by now have managed to outgrow this nasty habit.

 

[jallman]

Hell some days in some threads if you’re a conservative christian its like Davy and Goliath.

I rarely have a problem with Navy...we like to jab at each other but at the end of the day, I consider him one of my "friends" on this forum. But then, I also take the pause to really think about what Navy intends with his posts. So intolerant of me, huh? It's not that anyone has a problem with conservative christians...its that they have a problem with self-righteous, sanctimonious, soap-box martyrs. I think that's a general consensus in life...not just here at DP.

It’s a question worth debating to some. Are you saying no dumb threads were ever started by LIBERALS on here who wanted to start something? Liberals like to “HURT” they like to pour salt into the wounds…….especially in the abortion threads. They love to demean life, not necessarily because they feel it, but just to hurt those who really value life by opposing abortion. They love it, they think abortion is funny and they know those who are against abortion don’t think its funny. So they lurk around and say the same hurtful things over and over and over.

Oh yes...because anyone would think that a woman's pain and the circumstances that lead to that unfortunate choice are something to laugh about. Could you please, just once, keep a little honesty in your posts? Pretty please?

Did I just start a fight? :rofl

And that right there is the very sentiment that leads many to dislike the directness and over-bearing nature of the right. You are no better than the activist atheist who deliberately tries to shock attack Christians out of disrespect rather than a firm non-belief in God. Two peas in the same pod...

 

[Stace]

With regard to moving one's post without informing the poster as to where the thread was posted, yes I could agree with you that the moderators might feel inclined to look at that point,

As has already been stated, whenever a thread is moved, a PM is automatically generated to inform whomever started the thread. You also should be well aware of that....so it's not something we need to look into, as it's something that's already taken care of.

 

[Skip]

doughgirl, I must completely and wholeheartedly disagree with you. When I first joined I thought there were more on the Republican side then the Democratic. After taking a less biased view of the overall makeup of the site, I found that it was extremely moderate. I've been on a few politcal sites before and they each had a distinct lean, one way or the other. DP is the first that doesn't have a clear lean, and easily the most moderate. The best moderation staff, too.

I think that extremists will always find a way to portray themselves as the persecuted and the minority, because it makes them feel like they're fighting the "good fight". It's natural to think so, but it's far more mature to stop the partisanship within your mind, that is ingrained so deeply, and try to look at the facts.

It's things like this:

Bottom line…..there are far more passionate LEFT WINGERS ON HERE…..then RIGHT WINGERS, and the moderators can’t help that. I think some on the RIGHT don’t want to rock the boat and get attacked by those on the LEFT so they don’t get into the verbal battles.

Vauge said, “ Conservatives often tend to be much more direct and get themselves into trouble faster.
I must say you dissapoint me by saying this especially when you indicate that you are very conservative.

That is because DP is more LIBERAL. Its more liberal in every way and on just about every topic. If you cant see that then……..man oh man.

You're doing what I was just talking about. You're choosing "your" side, and playing the role of the persecuted minority. Extremists on both sides of the aisle do this all the time. Extremists in politics, extremists in religion, extremists in sports even. It may be natural, but it's immature and unintelligent. Vauge is able to rid himself of the natural tendency and actually look at facts, and debate. Apparently, and sadly, you are not. That is true of other conservatives as well as other liberals on this forum.

All I'm trying to say, doughgirl, is that when you post things like this:

Liberals like to “HURT” they like to pour salt into the wounds…….especially in the abortion threads. They love to demean life, not necessarily because they feel it, but just to hurt those who really value life by opposing abortion.

It blatantly shows yours partisanship and lack of even attempting to understand the "opposition". I can tell you that myself, as well as other pro-choice persons, don't like to "HURT". I don't like to "pour salt into the wounds". I like to express my opinions, debate you and yours, and (hopefully) change your mind.

When people like you post hateful statement such as that, I tend to close up and resort to the same style of attacks. But I control that tendency, and try to be mature and intelligent in my response. I'm hoping you can learn that skill as well.

 

[Navy Pride]

Are Muslims the only people performing terrorist acts?

In this country they seem to be..........

 

[Navy Pride]

Racial profiling is by defintion racist. Should we also profile Christians due to a fraction of their number bombing abortion clinics?

Their has not been a bombing of and abortion clinic since 1993.....Bad example.try again.......


Oh and I am a Christian and I am for prosecuting and abortion clinic bomber to the full extent of the law...........

If Muslims are doing the terrorist acts in this country you don't profile 80 year old grandmas............

 

[Gibberish]

Their has not been a bombing of and abortion clinic since 1993.....Bad example.try again.......

So you only profile those who have done the most recent attacks? Next time a Christian bombs something in America we should stop profiling Muslims and only focus on Christians? Or do you suggest we cherry pick?

If Muslims are doing the terrorist acts in this country you don't profile 80 year old grandmas............

I do have to agree this type of scenario is simply a PC effort by law enforcement and is pointless.

 

[Navy Pride]

So you only profile those who have done the most recent attacks? Next time a Christian bombs something in America we should stop profiling Muslims and only focus on Christians? Or do you suggest we cherry pick?



I do have to agree this type of scenario is simply a PC effort by law enforcement and is pointless.

You do what you have to do but unlike the Muslims and the war on Terror the vast majority of Christians condemn bombing abortion clinics even though they don't agree with killing babies in the womb.......

Again, Huge difference...........

 

[Flea]

Nothing wrong with profiling in my opinion, as long as it is not abused, but that is the whole issue now, isn't it?

 

[Gibberish]

You do what you have to do but unlike the Muslims and the war on Terror the vast majority of Christians condemn bombing abortion clinics even though they don't agree with killing babies in the womb.......

Again, Huge difference...........

I wasn't trying to compare the religions I was just saying there are known to be Christian radicals and known to be Muslim Radicals. We should cherry pick on which one might or might not blow up a building because they both are fully capable.

My thought on profiling is everyone should be suspect. If I was an Arabian terrorist that wanted to kill a bunch of people I would have no problem trying to convince a none Arabian to help me in my task if I thought they had a better chance getting past security.

Everyone should be checked, there should be no room for error.

 

[Stace]

Their has not been a bombing of and abortion clinic since 1993.....Bad example.try again.......

Perhaps YOU should try again...

Green Left - Abortion clinic bombed in Alabama

Feminist Daily News 6/12/2001: Washington Abortion Doctor’s Office Bombed

Amazing what a simple Yahoo search can come up with, eh?

 

[RadFemRocker]

You do what you have to do but unlike the Muslims and the war on Terror the vast majority of Christians condemn bombing abortion clinics even though they don't agree with killing babies in the womb.......

Again, Huge difference...........

Any evidence to back-up the claim that most Muslims support terrorism?

 

[RadFemRocker]

Perhaps YOU should try again...

Green Left - Abortion clinic bombed in Alabama

Feminist Daily News 6/12/2001: Washington Abortion Doctor’s Office Bombed

Amazing what a simple Yahoo search can come up with, eh?

You took the google search right outta my web browser.

In addition to bombings, you also have personal attacks perpetrated against doctors and arson attacks/vandalism: National Abortion Federation: Extreme Clinic Violence
National Abortion Federation: Clinic Violence: Murders and Shootings

So again, should we profile Christians in an attempt to prevent this kind of thing?

 

[jallman]

You took the google search right outta my web browser.

In addition to bombings, you also have personal attacks perpetrated against doctors and arson attacks/vandalism: National Abortion Federation: Extreme Clinic Violence
National Abortion Federation: Clinic Violence: Murders and Shootings

So again, should we profile Christians in an attempt to prevent this kind of thing?

Well, honestly, I believe profiling works. Little blue haired grannies aren't running planes into buildings and the average abortion clinic bomber isn't a female. I think that profiling shouldn't take the approach of specifying the target, but rather profiling should take the approach of eliminating the unlikely suspects.

 

[Navy Pride]

I wasn't trying to compare the religions I was just saying there are known to be Christian radicals and known to be Muslim Radicals. We should cherry pick on which one might or might not blow up a building because they both are fully capable.

My thought on profiling is everyone should be suspect. If I was an Arabian terrorist that wanted to kill a bunch of people I would have no problem trying to convince a none Arabian to help me in my task if I thought they had a better chance getting past security.

Everyone should be checked, there should be no room for error.

And everyone is checked but you still have to take a closer look at the people who are perpetrating the acts of terrorism........Don't waste time checking 80 year old ladies until they start committing terrorism acts.

 

[Navy Pride]

Perhaps YOU should try again...

Green Left - Abortion clinic bombed in Alabama

Feminist Daily News 6/12/2001: Washington Abortion Doctor’s Office Bombed

Amazing what a simple Yahoo search can come up with, eh?

OK my bad, I should have said a death..................

 

[Navy Pride]

Any evidence to back-up the claim that most Muslims support terrorism?

No I never said they did..........You do watch the films on Arab TV don't you? Did you see how Muslims celebrated after the attacks on the WTC throughout Europe and the middle east...........

 

[RadFemRocker]

Well, honestly, I believe profiling works. Little blue haired grannies aren't running planes into buildings and the average abortion clinic bomber isn't a female. I think that profiling shouldn't take the approach of specifying the target, but rather profiling should take the approach of eliminating the unlikely suspects.

The problem there is that it could be used to eliminate everyone but young Muslim men/men of colour if the person using it considered all but them "unlikely suspects". I do agree that if you have a rape case on your hands you're better of questioning a young man than a granny obviousky, but unless there's some kind of fairly obvious marker I think we need to be careful here.

 

[Navy Pride]

Any evidence to back-up the claim that most Muslims support terrorism?

Bottom line 99% of all Christians condemn abortion clinic bombings in the USA.....About 1% of all Muslims, and I am being lenient, condemn terrorist attacks in the USA......

 

[RadFemRocker]

No I never said they did..........

You said that most Christians opposed clinic bombing which was apparently "a big difference" from the attitude Muslims have towards suicide bombings? What is one supposed to infer from the statemnt?

You do watch the films on Arab TV don't you? Did you see how Muslims celebrated after the attacks on the WTC throughout Europe and the middle east...........

Aye, some Muslims. By no means all.

 

[Schweddy]

Vauge said, “ Conservatives often tend to be much more direct and get themselves into trouble faster.
I must say you dissapoint me by saying this especially when you indicate that you are very conservative.

LOL - I've been asked a few times to do a write up about this.
I'll get to work on one.

That is because DP is more LIBERAL. Its more liberal in every way and on just about every topic. If you cant see that then……..man oh man.

I disagree. More often than not, Liberals just tend to be much more outspoken.

Am I emotional at times........you bet. But do I like Vague think that showing emotion is a weakness.......no, I think its shows compassion and humanness, something quite frankly I find lackin on the LIBERAL SIDE.

Did I just start a fight? :rofl

I did not say emotion was a weekness at all. I was refering to style. Liberals *attempt* to show logic first and rarely go for the heart string (if at all) and Conservatives *attempt* or directly hit on the emotional aspect first before showing the evidence.

I'll get to work on that write up - lol

 

[RadFemRocker]

OK my bad, I should have said a death..................

The last recorded death I could find was 1998, Dr. Barnett Slepian, but does just counting the deaths make any sense, morally? There's been plenty of attempts on the lives of nurses and providers since then, and the intent behind murders and attempted murders is the same.

 

[Navy Pride]

You said that most Christians opposed clinic bombing which was apparently "a big difference" from the attitude Muslims have towards suicide bombings? What is one supposed to infer from the statemnt?



Aye, some Muslims. By no means all.

I never said all...............

 

[jallman]

The problem there is that it could be used to eliminate everyone but young Muslim men/men of colour if the person using it considered all but them "unlikely suspects". I do agree that if you have a rape case on your hands you're better of questioning a young man than a granny obviousky, but unless there's some kind of fairly obvious marker I think we need to be careful here.

Well I do think it is walking a fine line, however, if I am going to get on a plane with the current political climate being what it is, I personally want TSA to look under every turban, burka, and between the pages of every Quran that comes through the security line.