Is the Confederate flag a racist symbol?

[aquapub]

When weren't they bigoted?

"The Klan's first incarnation was in 1866. Founded by veterans of the Confederate Army, its main purpose was to resist Reconstruction."

Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[cherokee]

Name the place.
More proof that you can't follow an argument.
Name the place.
You already have my reply. You are presenting apologist bullshit from pro-Confederate websites. "Well we had a few slaves fight for us! So I guess Confederates weren't as racist as you thought!" is the basic argument you are presenting. The very fact that associations like the KKK came up right after the South lost and the fact that these associations were headed by CONFEDERATES is all the evidence I need.

Who the fook is claiming everything I have posted is (in your own words) "apologist bullshit from pro-Confederate websites"?
Maybe you just cant handle the truth, maybe you have the whole "Look at me I'm the victim of the white man" bullshit drilled into your head.

It must burn your azz to know blacks fought by their own accord for the South...But thats ok just stick your fingers in your ears again and scream la, la, la,la I cant hear you....

 

[aquapub]

Pedophilia and Terrorism are Republican values. Case and point :

The Raw Story | Ex-lawmaker charged in terror conspiracy

:rofl

1) Unlike Democrats, Republicans reject other Republicans when they cross that line and Republicans also don't protect pedophiles as a matter of policy. Democrats do protect pedophiles as a matter of policy and do protect other Democrats when they cross that line.

2) Do you really think an equally long list of Democrats like Barney Franks, Gerry Studds, etc. couldn't be compiled?

3) One Republican being *accused* of being financially linked to an organization loosely linked to some terrorist group does not undo the left's nearly 100% pro-terrorist voting record.

4) By the criteria you're using to call something a Republican value (one Republican accused of something), Democrats could be accused of far, far worse.

These feeble counterpoints are weak, even for you.

 

[Thorgasm]

Don't you have an incompetent black person to give racist preferential treatment to at the expense of someone who's actually qualified?

Nope. I sure don't. Can't you take one day off from being a full-time bigot? It's MLK day man.

 

[the makeout hobo]

Wrong. There are a great many Southern Democrats who refuse to register as anything but Democrats. They range from people like Zell Miller (D) to former Klansman, Robert Byrd (D). It's a party to be proud of. :2sick1:

Some dixiecrats didn't cross over, but many did, like Strom Thurmond (R), and Trent Lott (R). The vast majority, in fact, if you check the record. Remember Nixon's southern strategy? It worked.

Also, Senator Byrd has refuted and denounced the KKK and racism on many occasions.


Sure, I could totally believe that someone other than Democrats might have occasionally belonged to the Klan...before it became a mouthpiece for bigotry.[/QUOTE]

Harding was president in the 1920's, when the klan was resurgent as a racist organization.

 

[jamesrage]

Is the Confederate flag a racist symbol?

Only if the person displaying the flag views it as a symbol of racism.For example some hillbillies in some sheets because they are too chicken shit to show their faces flying a confederate flag .Some one with a flag on their porch or as a bumper sticker on their truck shown as southern pride is not a symbol of racism, unless that individual is a racist.I do not believe that everyone who was in the Confederate side gave a shit about slavery because the majority of wars are fought by the poor who were probably limited in the jobs they can get because of slavery not by the rich who could easily afford to house and purchase slaves and the personnel to secure the slaves.

Personally I think it is totally unpatriotic to fly a flag of another country even if that country no longer exist.

 

[aquapub]

Nope. I sure don't. Can't you take one day off from being a full-time bigot? It's MLK day man.

Can't you take one day off from mindlessly denouncing those who point out liberal racism as racists?

 

[cherokee]

Are you and bhkad sharing the same brain? Jihad has nothing to do with this.

Do you wish this to remain civil?

He is the one always telling me its only a few "Bad" Muslims causing the problems. I'm just throwing his own BS back at him with a confederate twist.

 

[Thorgasm]

"The Klan's first incarnation was in 1866. Founded by veterans of the Confederate Army, its main purpose was to resist Reconstruction."

Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Klan's first incarnation was in 1866. Founded by veterans of the Confederate Army, its main purpose was to resist Reconstruction. It focused as much on intimidating "carpetbaggers" and "scalawags" as on putting down the freed slaves. The KKK quickly adopted violent methods. A rapid reaction set in. The Klan's leadership disowned violence as Southern elites saw the Klan as an excuse for federal troops to continue their activities in the South. The organization declined from 1868 to 1870 and was destroyed in the early 1870s by President Ulysses S. Grant's vigorous action under the Civil Rights Act of 1871 (also known as the Ku Klux Klan Act).

This is your source huh? Silly rabbit, kix are for trids.:rofl

 

[americanwoman]

Maybe because I am not from the south but I don't understand the whole confederate flag thing myself. When I see the flag I think of the south. While the history of the south does include slavery, that's not the only thing I think of when I think of the south. Anyways, it's a free country and people have the right to display that flag if they want to and I am sure they know people may think of it the wrong way. But if they feel pride in their roots and aren't racist, I don't see how the flag could be a racist symbol. It's only a racist symbol if you let it be.

 

[Thorgasm]

Can't you take one day off from mindlessly denouncing those who point out liberal racism as racists?

Liberal racism? :rofl Surely you jest.

Does this mean you support Alan Keyes for President?

 

[aquapub]

Some dixiecrats didn't cross over, but many did, like Strom Thurmond (R), and Trent Lott (R). The vast majority, in fact, if you check the record. Remember Nixon's southern strategy? It worked.

Trent Lott and Strom Thurmond aren't examples of Republicans (the people who fought Democrats to free the slaves, fought Democrats to integrate the schools, and are the only ones pushing for actual equality today) being bigots. They are examples of why we shouldn't allow Democrats into our party.

Also, Senator Byrd has refuted and denounced the KKK and racism on many occasions.

And that only makes it ok when you're a Democrat. Case in point: the difference in treatment Trent Lott received for his statements to Strom Thurmond once he became a Republican.

Harding was president in the 1920's, when the klan was resurgent as a racist organization.

And...

"Klan delegates played a significant role at the pathsetting 1924 Democratic National Convention in New York City, often called the "Klanbake Convention" as a result. The convention initially pitted Klan-backed candidate William Gibbs McAdoo against New York Governor Al Smith, who drew the opposition of the group because of his Catholic faith. After days of stalemates and rioting, both candidates withdrew in favor of a compromise. Klan delegates defeated a Democratic Party platform plank that would have condemned their organization. On July 4, 1924, thousands of Klansmen converged on a nearby field in New Jersey where they participated in cross burnings, burned effigies of Smith, and celebrated their defeat of the platform plank."

Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Thorgasm]

Do you wish this to remain civil?

Why shouldn't it be? What are you gonna do?

He is the one always telling me its only a few "Bad" Muslims causing the problems. I'm just throwing his own BS back at him with a confederate twist.

Okay, threadjack away then. :roll:

 

[cherokee]

"The few"? Thats a bit of a losing argument - by the admission of Lt. Gen. Nathan Beford Forrest the KKK had half a million members by 1868.

That was for the entire USA, not just the south.

Did you know by the 1920's they (KKK) claim to have had 4-5 million?...:roll:

I wonder how long it will take you
to accuse me of being a KKK supporter.....:lamo

 

[aquapub]

Liberal racism? :rofl Surely you jest.

Is it not racist to put blacks in colleges and jobs ahead of people who are more qualified based on nothing more than their skin color?

That's what liberals stand for. The only difference now is that Democrats aren't wearing Klan outfits, fighting for slavery, and resisting integration...they've always been on the wrong side of race, now they're just racists for the other side.

 

[the makeout hobo]

Trent Lott and Strom Thurmond aren't examples of Republicans (the people who fought Democrats to free the slaves, fought Democrats to integrate the schools, and are the only ones pushing for actual equality today) being bigots. They are examples of why we shouldn't allow Democrats into our party.

That may be your opinion, but the national party disagrees with you. You know, the party that made Lott majority leader. Seems to me your party's embraced them.

"Klan delegates played a significant role at the pathsetting 1924 Democratic National Convention in New York City, often called the "Klanbake Convention" as a result. The convention initially pitted Klan-backed candidate William Gibbs McAdoo against New York Governor Al Smith, who drew the opposition of the group because of his Catholic faith. After days of stalemates and rioting, both candidates withdrew in favor of a compromise. Klan delegates defeated a Democratic Party platform plank that would have condemned their organization. On July 4, 1924, thousands of Klansmen converged on a nearby field in New Jersey where they participated in cross burnings, burned effigies of Smith, and celebrated their defeat of the platform plank."

Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, the democratic party had a racist history. Luckily, we have expunged those elements from our party. Do you think a woman and a black man would have done so well otherwise?

 

[cherokee]

Why shouldn't it be? What are you gonna do?

Who's brain are you sharing?

Okay, threadjack away then. :roll:

Not hijacking the thread at all.
Sorry you feel that way. Well not really.....:mrgreen:

 

[cherokee]

Maybe because I am not from the south but I don't understand the whole confederate flag thing myself. When I see the flag I think of the south. While the history of the south does include slavery, that's not the only thing I think of when I think of the south. Anyways, it's a free country and people have the right to display that flag if they want to and I am sure they know people may think of it the wrong way. But if they feel pride in their roots and aren't racist, I don't see how the flag could be a racist symbol. It's only a racist symbol if you let it be.

You are a wise lady.........:clap:

 

[Thorgasm]

Is it not racist to put blacks in colleges and jobs ahead of people who are more qualified based on nothing more than their skin color?

That's what liberals stand for. The only difference now is that Democrats aren't wearing Klan outfits, fighting for slavery, and resisting integration...they've always been on the wrong side of race, now they're just racists for the other side.

If you missed an opportunity, you didn't deserve it, it's not because of race. I love how you always speak in absolutes. :rofl

Would you like all the liberals to leave the country?

 

[aquapub]

That may be your opinion, but the national party disagrees with you. You know, the party that made Lott majority leader. Seems to me your party's embraced them.

Actually, I'm pretty sure my party very much regrets allowing Democrat bigots like Lott into the party. It allowed the actual racists (liberals) to perpetuate the myth that someone other than them is trying to create inequality.

Yes, the democratic party had a racist history. Luckily, we have expunged those elements from our party. Do you think a woman and a black man would have done so well otherwise?

Being female has nothing to do with racism. And of course a black man has made it in the Democrat Party...blacks are the group Democrats give their racist preferential treatments to. They traded in their Klan outfits for affirmative action.

 

[Thorgasm]

Maybe because I am not from the south but I don't understand the whole confederate flag thing myself. When I see the flag I think of the south. While the history of the south does include slavery, that's not the only thing I think of when I think of the south. Anyways, it's a free country and people have the right to display that flag if they want to and I am sure they know people may think of it the wrong way. But if they feel pride in their roots and aren't racist, I don't see how the flag could be a racist symbol. It's only a racist symbol if you let it be.

Would you be ok with a nazi denying the holocaust?

 

[Thorgasm]

And of course a black man has made it in the Democrat Party...blacks are the group Democrats give their racist preferential treatments to. They traded in their Klan outfits for affirmative action.

That's a nice spin. Marching up token minorities during conventions isn't racist? The face of the GOP is an old, angry, and white man.

 

[the makeout hobo]

Actually, I'm pretty sure my party very much regrets allowing Democrat bigots like Lott into the party. It allowed the actual racists (liberals) to perpetuate the myth that someone other than them is trying to create inequality.



Being female has nothing to do with racism. And of course a black man has made it in the Democrat Party...blacks are the group Democrats give their racist preferential treatments to. They traded in their Klan outfits for affirmative action.

Racism may not target females as a group, but I'm sure the klan is against it. It violates traditional gender roles.

Wait, white racists became democrats so they could give blacks preferential treatment? Can you start making sense here?

 

[Hatuey]

That was for the entire USA, not just the south.

Did you know by the 1920's they (KKK) claim to have had 4-5 million?...:roll:

They didn't claim. Their membership was known to be around 4-5 million people. Which is why our intelligence services started paying more attention to them.

I wonder how long it will take you
to accuse me of being a KKK supporter.....:lamo

You just a violent vet. Got a few of those in my own family.

 

[the makeout hobo]

Something I'd be interested to see is how most african amricans think of the flag. Any on the board want to give their personal opinions on it?