Is Rumsfeld Right ?

[Hoot]

the only people supporting INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE are leftist barking moonbats like Rangel

How dare you call our president a leftist barking moonbat!


http://www.gnn.tv/headlines/10712/Bush_OKs_involuntary_Marine_recall

 

[26 X World Champs]

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Moderator's Warning:

No..no. This is in violation of Rule 18. May I suggest a substitution of "Islamic Middle East" instead of "raghead nation?"

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! :2wave:

 

[ptsdkid]

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! :2wave:

***Yeah, thank you...thank you, for you do not have the needed backbone to stand on principles here. What a loser!

 

[Simon W. Moon]

***Yeah, thank you...thank you, for you do not have the needed backbone to stand on principles here. What a loser!

Run out of legitmate debate again? What a shame you had to resort to name calling. If you keep practicing, you'll be able to engage in legitmate debate for longer and longer periods at a stretch. Eventually, you'll be resorting to the tactics popularized by kids on the playground less and less often. Hang in there. One day you'll be able to debate w/o ad homs. Good luck and keep trying.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by pstdkid:
You, as a liberal are not suggesting we abandon Iraq to commence bombing in Iran...are you?

We did it in Afganistan.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by pstdkid:
'Ragheads' describes an entire group of Arab/Muslim people,

Or a bunch of stoners that smoke cheap weed. Sorry Galen.

Originally posted by pstdkid:
...just like 'honky' might describe white people.

In the joint, they call'em "woods"

In Hawaii, they call'em Howley's.

I kinda like "cracker"...

 

[Iriemon]

***Iraq just happens to have had a dictator that needed to be ousted. The rest of capturing and killing terrorists in the entire raghead nation is falling into place--thank you very much.

That says it all right there. Explains your entire world view in one sentence. A bigoted rascist.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

In the joint, they call'em "woods"
In Hawaii, they call'em Howley's.
I kinda like "cracker"...

Peckerwoods

 

[Simon W. Moon]

That says it all right there. Explains your entire world view in one sentence. A bigoted rascist.

This's been dealt w/ already. Let's leave behind the ad homs.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by Simon W. Moon
Peckerwoods

It's "Peck-a-wood!" No 'r'.

You've never done time, have you?

I only did a weekend. But that wasn't my fault the judge hated seeing my face so many times on the same case. It was Bush's fault! I'm more responsible than that!

 

[dragonslayer]

***When are you libs going to understand that Corporate profits and going after oil are not why we're fighting over there. Even if it was for profit--how in the world is exercising our Capitalistic nature going to hurt America? You people are h ell bent on seeing America become a third world banana republic singing to the tunes of the Unted Nations rule.

***Iraq just happens to have had a dictator that needed to be ousted. The rest of capturing and killing terrorists in the entire raghead nation is falling into place--thank you very much.

***Ask yourself where was the center of Nazi concentration during WWII?
It was in Berlin, the last place we entered to end the war. We bombed places like Japan, Italy and various other venues in Europe and Africa before ending it in Berlin. So you see, the bombing and fighting in Iraq is just the prelude to wiping out Islamic Fascism. You, as a liberal are not suggesting we abandon Iraq to commence bombing in Iran...are you? Check with Murtha and Cindy Sheehan before planning a massive bombing raid. I say we dump the resolve minded Romney in lieu of Generals Sheehan and Murtha.

Are you an American? It is obvious that you are out of touch with the real world.

Even if Sadam was dictator, Iraq was stable(no Civil War) and getting over the effects of Gulf War. Sadam was no longer a threat to anyone but the strange minds of Neo Con Radicals. Irag has the largest Oil reserves in the middle east. the Saudi wanted Iraqs oil to go stop. so they could raise their oil pricee. this one reason for the war. Remember the people who attacked us on 911, they were Saudis and Egyptians not Iragis. Exxon oil is partly owned by the Saudis. Boy the Saudis, Cheney, King George W, and Rummy are getting rich off of the exploitation of America. After the election, we can get King George W, in jail for all sorts of crimes. I wonder who is reponsible for killing more peeople in Iraq, Bush or Sadam?

What about the new bill in Congress that will cut benefits and medical care for soldier wounded in Iraq. Bush is a dog and only repects those that make over 500,000 dollars a year. Bush and the right wing radicals are all lies and deceit. How come he disrespects the military that is over dying in Bush's private little war so much?:doh :duel :stooges :2rofll:

 

[MSgt]

We did it in Afganistan.

There are thousands and thousands of American soldiers and Marines inside Afghanistan. There are also thousands and thousands of troops from international forces located there. Nothing is abandoned. Try to be honest to the situation.

 

[Iriemon]

There are thousands and thousands of American soldiers and Marines inside Afghanistan. There are also thousands and thousands of troops from international forces located there. Nothing is abandoned. Try to be honest to the situation.

Yes, let's be honest.

How many thousands and thousands of American soldiers are in Afganistan?

What ratio is that to the number in Iraq?

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Yes, let's be honest.

How many thousands and thousands of American soldiers are in Afganistan?

What ratio is that to the number in Iraq?

The United States military is centered around a strategy of 2MTW (two major theater wars) we did not have to diverge resources from Afghanistan to Iraq this is a falsehood propogated by the anti-war left.

 

[Airman424]

Donald Rumsfeld is probably closer to being a facist than those terrorists, terrorists are without a government. Just a bunch of psychos with guns and bombs.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Donald Rumsfeld is probably closer to being a facist than those terrorists, terrorists are without a government. Just a bunch of psychos with guns and bombs.

I take it you've never heard of Al-Banna, The Grand Mufti of Palestinia, or Sayyid Qutb. Islamic fascism is a direct descendent of the third reich.

 

[Iriemon]

The United States military is centered around a strategy of 2MTW (two major theater wars) we did not have to diverge resources from Afghanistan to Iraq this is a falsehood propogated by the anti-war left.

I'm sure they didn't. 8500 guys was more than sufficient to secure and search for bin Laden in Afganistan, a country the size of Alaska.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

I'm sure they didn't. 8500 guys was more than sufficient to secure and search for bin Laden in Afganistan, a country the size of Alaska.

We didn't want to get bogged down in a huge ground invasion in Afghanistan like the Soviets did, our strategy of using the Northern Alliance combined with Special Forces and U.S. airsupport worked well enough we just shouldn't have trusted the Pakistanis to cut off Bin-Laden's escape route through Tora-Bora.

Again if we want to add more troops it's entirely possible our military strategy is well capable of a 2MTW that has been our strategy since early in the Clinton administration. No resources have been diverted to Iraq that would have otherwise gone to Afghanistan if you have any evidence to support that contention I suggest you present it otherwise you're just making **** up.

 

[Iriemon]

We didn't want to get bogged down in a huge ground invasion in Afghanistan like the Soviets did, our strategy of using the Northern Alliance combined with Special Forces and U.S. airsupport worked well enough we just shouldn't have trusted the Pakistanis to cut off Bin-Laden's escape route through Tora-Bora.

Again if we want to add more troops it's entirely possible our military strategy is well capable of a 2MTW that has been our strategy since early in the Clinton administration. No resources have been diverted to Iraq that would have otherwise gone to Afghanistan if you have any evidence to support that contention I suggest you present it otherwise you're just making **** up.

Exhibit A: Bin Laden was not captured dead or alive. The Taliban has resurfaced as a force in Afganistan.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Exhibit A: Bin Laden was not captured dead or alive. The Taliban has resurfaced as a force in Afganistan.

And that's evidence that resources bound for Afghanistan were redirected to Iraq how exactly? Again the U.S. military is more than capable of fighting in 2 Major Theatres of war at one time, we didn't have to divert resources to Iraq that is a complete falsehood.

 

[Napoleon's Nightingale]

Nothing is abandoned.

I disagree. We abandoned the Afghans to the warlords and druglords so that we could pursue the Taliban and Al Qaeda without a metophorical ball and chain. The central Afghan government is weak, has little to no control of Afghanistan outside of Kabul, and we keep pressuring the Afghan government to destroy it's opium fields without providing any realistic economic alternatives (We acctually proposed that they sell roses instead! LOL!).

 

[26 X World Champs]

We didn't want to get bogged down in a huge ground invasion in Afghanistan like the Soviets did, our strategy of using the Northern Alliance combined with Special Forces and U.S. airsupport worked well enough we just shouldn't have trusted the Pakistanis to cut off Bin-Laden's escape route through Tora-Bora.

Explain this please?

Opium Harvest at Record Level in Afghanistan

By CARLOTTA GALL - NY Times
Published: September 3, 2006

KABUL, Afghanistan, Sept. 2 — Afghanistan’s opium harvest this year has reached the highest levels ever recorded, showing an increase of almost 50 percent from last year, the executive director of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Antonio Maria Costa, said Saturday in Kabul.

He described the figures as “alarming” and “very bad news” for the Afghan government and international donors who have poured millions of dollars into programs to reduce the poppy crop since 2001.

He said the increase in cultivation was significantly fueled by the resurgence of Taliban rebels in the south, the country’s prime opium growing region. As the insurgents have stepped up attacks, they have also encouraged and profited from the drug trade, promising protection to growers if they expanded their opium operations.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/03/w...&en=ad4141c5443c25c5&ei=5094&partner=homepage

So explain how our victory strategy again please? How come this is happening four years after we invaded?

Who's fault is this Trajan?

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Explain this please?


Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/03/world/asia/03afghan.html?hp&ex=1157342400&en=ad4141c5443c25c5&ei=5094&partner=homepage

So explain how our victory strategy again please? How come this is happening four years after we invaded?

Who's fault is this Trajan?

Explain what please? How is that evidence that resources bound for Afghanistan were diverted to Iraq? The United States military has been designed around a 2MTW (2 major theatre war) strategy since the Clinton administration no resources have been diverted anywhere the U.S. military is more than capable of fighting two wars at one time.

If we made the production of opium legal then we wouldn't have this problem and the government would actually profit from it, this isn't a sign of lack of U.S. resources it's a sign that as long as there is a demand there will be a supply and if that supply is not legal than the more unsavory amongst us our the ones who are going to profit.

 

[Airman424]

[/QUOTE] If we made the production of opium legal then we wouldn't have this problem and the government would actually profit from it, this isn't a sign of lack of U.S. resources it's a sign that as long as there is a demand there will be a supply and if that supply is not legal than the more unsavory amongst us our the ones who are going to profit. [/QUOTE]

Amen.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I take it you've never heard of Al-Banna, The Grand Mufti of Palestinia, or Sayyid Qutb. Islamic fascism is a direct descendent of the third reich.

I'm a direct descendent of Adam. Of course this isn't really helpful info and it ignores a monumentally vast amount of more relevant facts just like your assessment.