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Is it Un-American to work under the table?

Is it Un-American to work under the table?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 42.9%
  • No

    Votes: 12 57.1%

  • Total voters
    21
So, we finally meet at the same time, kid. This'll be brief...I wouldn't want to miss being able to post another response at 4:00 AM tomorrow. :mrgreen:

***Yeah, couldn't sleep.




I have brought far more than you can handle. Your dodges are intriguing, but irrelevant, and do nothing to save you.

***Lot of ragtime double talk here.



You missed the point, kid. My comment was that, in no way did you refute any of my claims. All you did, was stick to the position that you are unempoyable, even when you have shown yourself to be employable. I recognize PTSD as being a serious disorder. Your own, current behaviors show you to be a productive member of society, one that can produce and not only can be employed, but are employed. And, as I've said to you in other threads, your combat service is most admirable and I commend you for serving this country.

***I think the disconnect here is in your understanding of the term unemployable. First, I am not currently working under the table. Perhaps, and I say perhaps my age has set in where braving the cold hard work of construction is a thing of the past. More to the point, its the VA that has determined me to be unemployable. Since it is the VA paying for my disability--who am I to question their sound judgment? Lets not forget that the VA didn't judge me to be physically unemployable, rather, they judged me to be emotionally or mentally unemployable.



This is acutally an accurate portrayal of the potential problems of someone running for President. Wouldn't you agree that societal intrigue into the private lives of politicians can, potentially, eliminate some very good candidates because of issues that have nothing to do with that person's ability to serve? Pet peeve of mine.

***Totally agree.



Sure I know the difference. Do you know the difference between doing substantial gainful work and not working?

***Of course I know the difference. What's your point?



He has potential.

***LOL!



Still refusing to own up to your loses. It is sad to see, but I shall keep trying to assist you in seeing the reality of your behaviors. No need to thank me...your kind attention is all the thanls I need.

***Refusing to own up to my losses? By that do you mean the lost chance of becoming president? It is exactly because I have seen and fully understand the reality behind my PTSD behaviors--that I have adjusted so well to a limited set of goals.
 
Yeah, couldn't sleep.

I feel your pain, kid. Chronic insmoniac, am I. That's why you always see me posting at 4 or 5 in the morning. :(

I think the disconnect here is in your understanding of the term unemployable. First, I am not currently working under the table. Perhaps, and I say perhaps my age has set in where braving the cold hard work of construction is a thing of the past. More to the point, its the VA that has determined me to be unemployable. Since it is the VA paying for my disability--who am I to question their sound judgment? Lets not forget that the VA didn't judge me to be physically unemployable, rather, they judged me to be emotionally or mentally unemployable.

Still want you to check out the GAO report. It has some explanations that may have something to do with the disconnect between your current unemployable status and your current GAF.

CaptainCourtesy said:
This is acutally an accurate portrayal of the potential problems of someone running for President. Wouldn't you agree that societal intrigue into the private lives of politicians can, potentially, eliminate some very good candidates because of issues that have nothing to do with that person's ability to serve? Pet peeve of mine.

ptsdkid said:
Totally agree.

Wait...what? The kid and El Capitante TOTALLY AGREE on something. At some point, perhaps we could start a discussion on this. And btw, kid, imagine if you turned to the 'good side' and we joined forces...OK, perhaps that's asking a bit much. :mrgreen:

Of course I know the difference. What's your point?

Just checking. :2wave:

Refusing to own up to my losses? By that do you mean the lost chance of becoming president? It is exactly because I have seen and fully understand the reality behind my PTSD behaviors--that I have adjusted so well to a limited set of goals.

Man's got to recognize his limitations, kid. ;)
 
Wait...what? The kid and El Capitante TOTALLY AGREE on something. At some point, perhaps we could start a discussion on this. And btw, kid, imagine if you turned to the 'good side' and we joined forces...OK, perhaps that's asking a bit much. :mrgreen:


***Looks like this thread has run its course. Interesting to see that 12 people agreed with my idea that we as free Americans should get to choose our livelihood by setting our terms; by foregoing the cruel tax laws as they are laid upon us by an unforgiving government.
Twelve people disagreed with me. These people seem to be content to let the government run roughshod over their very lives by being goody-two-shoes' wards of the state, where they're afraid to buck any and all of the government's failed policies. Other than our military, one would be hard pressed to find a single government program that had actually worked to the people's liking, let alone one that had actually benefitted the people for the long run. Please don't use social security as an example of government genuis. It may have been fairly useful during its inception, but until it is either eliminated or changed to allow for private investments--that program is headed for the trash bin.
 
So you can see el capitante--its not for reason of limited political acumen that kept me from becoming president, rather it was my trauma background coupled with an unforgiving society that decided my fate.
There are times when I think that my display of facts backed by experience have simply overwhelmed the Captain, where he gets frustrated in each attempt to counter me by skewing/spinning the truth to his liking.

The problem el Capitante is that you're dealing with the master debater; a guy that continually destroys your weak inexperienced and factually wrong attempts to discredit the king.

I use the word paltry in comparing that government entitlement to the $400,000 a year income I would be getting as president of these United states had I not had a history of detrimental psychiatric evaluations. Again, the only one being cheated here is me--in that only my history and an unforgiving society prevents me from attaining my goals, not my abilities.
21-30 Behavior is considered influenced by delusions or hallucinations OR serious impairment in communications or judgment OR inability to function in all areas.


You know what? I take back all of my claims that you were lying about your 25 rating. I think you've pretty thoroughly proved that you're deserving of it.
 
I worked in an industry that was willing to finance individuals who worked under the table. Certain banks did not require pay stubs. I was very surprised by this. They were able to inflate their income in order to be approved for the particular loan.

If I or any other tax payer were to go into the same business, we would have to prove our income and would be less likely to be approved as our honesty would prevent a positive result.

So in the end, the law is the law and if we do not like it, we have to change it. Our advantage is that we do not pay luxery taxes as they do in Europe. I am not sure which is worse.

Our infrastructure must be maintained and such. My only concern is pork barrel spending. I do not like the though of wasteful spending as my family goes without.
 
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