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Is it time to completely ban Islam in the west?

AmericanSpartan said:
And we can just shake them off of us if we have the will and courage to act in our defense and defense of our heritage and future.
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There is that "we" again. How many are you? 2? 3? What do you think you are going to do? Will you run away from these questions too?
 
John V said:
Let’s re-phrase then, cut out the politeness and call it what it is.

Is it time to ban an ideology, (into a prescribed terrorist organisation), based on a backward centuries old cult; that seeks to hide behind a term of 'religion', whose adherents largely support (though not necessarily act out), the violent overthrow of western societies and their values.

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Just curious, do you consider China part of the 'West'?

AmericanSpartan said:
Just reduce immigration as a whole. And sorry race is real.

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There are differences between a Pole and an Italian, but for all intents and purposes in the US, they are both considered white. Why? Because the social construct of what 'White' is shapes our definition of it.
 
SocialDemocrat said:
Just curious, do you consider China part of the 'West'?



There are differences between a Pole and an Italian, but for all intents and purposes in the US, they are both considered white. Why? Because the social construct of what 'White' is shapes our definition of it.
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No, it is fact that race existence. The difference between poles and Italians is also genetics and cultural.
 
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AmericanSpartan said:
You should care..As a women life under Islam is a never ending Hell.
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It'll probably take a few more decades for them to take over so I'm not really fussed. Anyway, are we in any danger of becoming Islamic?
 
Redress said:
There is that "we" again. How many are you? 2? 3? What do you think you are going to do? Will you run away from these questions too?
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We=People of the West who want to keep the West as the West was/is.

We know your kind does not value it, our nations,our cultures and the people that created them.

If you did you would support ending mass immigration, border security, rejecting the lies of moral, cultural, and factual relativism, Political Correctness and and "Multiculturalism".

But you dont...So you are either supportive of the antithesis of them or you are indifferent.

Either way we do not care.
 
AmericanSpartan said:
We=People of the West who want to keep the West as the West was/is.

We know your kind does not value it, our nations,our cultures and the people that created them.

If you did you would support ending mass immigration, border security, rejecting the lies of moral, cultural, and factual relativism, Political Correctness and and "Multiculturalism".

But you dont...So you are either supportive of the antithesis of them or you are indifferent.

Either way we do not care.
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So ignorant people. Hint: you have no idea what I support and don't. You also have no power base to enact any of the changes you desire. So basically, you made an empty threat.
 
Redress said:
So ignorant people. Hint: you have no idea what I support and don't. You also have no power base to enact any of the changes you desire. So basically, you made an empty threat.
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You lean Liberal, do you not? Wrong, we so do and we are mobilizing it.
 
Unicron said:
It'll probably take a few more decades for them to take over so I'm not really fussed. Anyway, are we in any danger of becoming Islamic?
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Never allow a threat to grow when it could be destroyed...Never take that chance...Less your posterity be forced to fight the battles you could have prevented.
 
ITT: Christians asking each other if persecuting a religion will make it go away. :lol:
 
AmericanSpartan said:
Never allow a threat to grow when it could be destroyed...Never take that chance...Less your posterity be forced to fight the battles you could have prevented.
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I'm not much use for practical politics, but thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
 
'is it time to say enough is enough and for the west to start to ban Islam and include it in the Human Rights Act and the U.N declaration, as a threat to humanity?'

What an utterly ridiculous notion.

Anyone who thinks that the reason for all the problems mentioned is Islam has NO IDEA what they are talking about.

To suggest that normal, well adjusted people are suddenly going to turn into blood thirsty terrorists strictly because their religion tells them to is utter nonsense (not that Islam tells them to).
 
SocialDemocrat said:
So you're telling me that no one has opinions on race? I know that you have some questionable ones.
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Not say that, just saying race does exist. And they maybe "questionable" to people who value opinion over facts.
 
DA60 said:
'is it time to say enough is enough and for the west to start to ban Islam and include it in the Human Rights Act and the U.N declaration, as a threat to humanity?'

What an utterly ridiculous notion.

Anyone who thinks that the reason for all the problems mentioned is Islam has NO IDEA what they are talking about.

To suggest that normal, well adjusted people are suddenly going to turn into blood thirsty terrorists strictly because their religion tells them to is utter nonsense (not that Islam tells them to).
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If you want to take that risk? Fine, we do not.
 
A John V rant production :)

People tend to criticise other countries and compare them to their own. ‘Look at the freedoms we’ve got.’ The freedom to go on a killing spree and have your tearful Mum tell the news channel what a good boy you are? The freedom to riot and loot and blame others because your great grandmother was a slave? The freedom to blow up others because they don’t adhere to the same religion/cult/ group as yourself?

Tell me, how do you reconcile a democratic liberal view with an ideology that says kill gays, mutilate women and despise freedom? Why do you hate Americans Bush and Reagan, but love the diversity of a barbaric cult that wants to enslave you? Why do you love the first amendment of free speech, but support those who would deny it to you?

The reason some countries are now starting to take a stand against Islam is because they can see what has happened to the west as a result of multiculturalism and appeasement. It’s not that they don’t have the freedoms of the West, it’s that they don’t want them. Doesn’t everyone want to be free to do as they wish, with no restraints on behaviour? Well no, the majority of the world doesn’t. A democracy with all its benefits, also gives a liberal gullible population the right to destroy itself and it’s what the Founding Fathers warned against.

9/11 should have been a wake-up call to America, but the introduction of new cell phones and TV reality shows made people forget. In recent times, Europe should have provided evidence of what is to come, but that is dismissed with a ‘it could never happen here.’ America is at the stage of 1990s UK and Europe; Islam is still an exotic thing and the Dearborn riots of 2012, with a Muslim population of 34%, was also dismissed or ignored entirely. The disaffected blacks, street gangs, prison inmates . . . are already being converted to Islam in America, but it’s still at a low level of under 2%; as it quickly doubles, expect disturbances on a scale that makes Ferguson and Baltimore look like Sunday picnics – just like Europe.

The Muslim population of America is expanding at warp speed.
Articles: The Muslim population of America is expanding at warp speed
‘Estimates on the number of Muslims living in the US vary, ranging from 3 million to 7 million. Whatever the precise number, it’s already outdated as it rises with each passing nanosecond.
Since 9/11, there has been a dramatic uptick in immigration from Islamic countries with a 66% increase in the past decade. And things are just warming up. Islam is now the fastest growing religion in America.’

The consequences of large scale Muslim immigration into America
Obama Imported 300,000 Muslims Into the US in 2013 | Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs: Islam, Jihad, Israel and the Islamic War on the West
‘The idea that America has better assimilated its Muslims than the UK and Europe is ridiculous on its face. It’s a matter of numbers. The only difference between the US and France, the UK and the rest of that doomed continent is that they began importing Muslims decades earlier than the US.’

Europe warned you, so did Saddam, Gaddafi and recently, Assad. Remember this; liberalism only exists in western societies, there are no liberals in Islam.
 
Cardinal said:
Because of course America was founded on barring people of the wrong faith.
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Yes it was.
http://usinc.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/USImmigrationhistorylutton.pdf


E. E. Proper, in his book, Colonial Immigration Laws, attributes the political and religious spirit of the colonies, in part, to the restrictions and prohibitions that the different governments enacted prior to the American Revolution.


Contrary to the claims expressed by some historians, Colonial America did not welcome any and all who tried to enter.
 
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