Is it Racist or Insensitive to Call MS-13 Gang Members 'Animals'?

[truthatallcost]

So I thought this was a serious poll, and I open it to answer and post in this thread, and the first post I see is nothing but baiting. Putting the heads of MSNBC commentators on the bodies of tattooed black men? Unbelievable - and not funny.

Hopefully someone will start a serious poll asking this question. You didn't.

I'm pretty sure you don't know who MS-13 are at this point. They aren't black.

 

[truthatallcost]

MS13 gang members are animals and I don't appreciate you comparing educated American citizens to gang members just because you don't like the way they report the news. It's very dishonest on your part.

What are you objecting to here, the picture?

 

[Amelia]

Hmmm.... fair enough. I would say MS didn't just rise out of nowhere. We meddle into other countries without caring but then want to care about the affects like we cared in the first place. To be clear, I support Central Americans and if they are good citizens they are welcome here to me but I can see what you mean about our policies coming back to us.

Trump's administration is in the process of making conditions worse in El Salvador, in a manner which will feed MS-13 both customers and recruits, but "Go Trump".

 

[americanwoman]

What are you objecting to here, the picture?

Kind of, yes. I mean I don't really like MSNBC as much as the next person but it's not like they're actual terrorists or abuse and torture people..... Cue the watching Maddow is torture post. :lol:

 

[The Mark]

I'm living through the collapse of California. MS-13 are animals.

While all humans are animals, no animal is required to meet the standards we require of humans.
To call a human an "animal" implies they're reacting on instinct, and in a way not in control of their actions.
The terrible acts some MS-13 members have commited are far worse than calling them "animals" conveys, because they know better - and animals don't.

 

[truthatallcost]

Kind of, yes. I mean I don't really like MSNBC as much as the next person but it's not like they're actual terrorists or abuse and torture people..... Cue the watching Maddow is torture post. :lol:

You get a like for making me laugh :lol:

MSNBC hosts lied about Trump's statement, inferring that Trump called people who live in Sanctuary Cities 'animals'. They knew better. They also have a history of condoning the bad behavior of people who hold left wing views, like when MSNBC decided to support host Sam Seder, after he Tweeted that if his daughter were to be raped, he would hope the rapist was a talented Hollywood director like Roman Polanski.

MSNBC deserves to be mocked.

 

[camlok]

You get a like for making me laugh :lol:

You get a LIKE, well, just 'cause.

MSNBC hosts lied about Trump's statement, inferring that Trump called people who live in Sanctuary Cities 'animals'. They knew better. They also have a history of condoning the bad behavior of people who hold left wing views, like when MSNBC decided to support host Sam Seder, after he Tweeted that if his daughter were to be raped, he would hope the rapist was a talented Hollywood director like Roman Polanski.

MSNBC deserves to be mocked.

Which member of the Alt-Right deserves to be mocked, truthatallcost?

[bolded, above, is mine]

How the alt-right duped MSNBC into firing one of its contributors
An online community weaponized the political commentator Sam Seder’s satirical 2009 tweet.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/6/16738564/sam-seder-msnbc-firing-alt-right-smear

 

[camlok]

What are you objecting to here, the picture?

Probably your "objectivity".

 

[TheRepublican]

obviously this op can't stand people who want to put their country's safety first

 

[truthatallcost]

obviously this op can't stand people who want to put their country's safety first

Which OP did you read?

 

[phattonez]

If you hate the world's fifth largest economy that much, then leave. Nobody's forcing you to stay.

Maybe Kansas is more your style?

As everyone knows, money is literally all that matters. :roll:

 

[TheRepublican]

Which OP did you read?

don't recall apologies

 

[zimmer]

If you hate the world's fifth largest economy that much, then leave. Nobody's forcing you to stay.

Maybe Kansas is more your style?

Lots of people are leaving... businesses... like my family’s business. Packed up and went to Texas.

 

[Vadinho]

Of course it is both racist and insensitive. M13 is hardly the menace Trump and his Mexican hating minions want to believe, they are merely the latest gang to make headlines. If Trump was as articulate as Obama, the distinction between a particular gang member and normal Mexicans would be made to avoid the racism and insensitivity Trump so proudly displays. But he is not. This is no different than calling all blacks lazy, all Pollocks stupid, all Koreans garlic munchers and so on. He should never, ever speak publicly about these issues, he is simply too stupid and inarticulate to teach anyone anything.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Here, let me warm up your coco for you. Then I'll come back and tuck in your blankie.

Thats amusing coming from the left which in the aftermath of Hillary Von Pantsuit's defeat needed safe spaces, crying rooms and ponys to deal with their emotional trauma.

 

[Rogue Valley]

I'm living through the collapse of California. MS-13 are animals.

Move.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Of course it is both racist and insensitive. M13 is hardly the menace Trump and his Mexican hating minions want to believe, they are merely the latest gang to make headlines. If Trump was as articulate as Obama, the distinction between a particular gang member and normal Mexicans would be made to avoid the racism and insensitivity Trump so proudly displays. But he is not. This is no different than calling all blacks lazy, all Pollocks stupid, all Koreans garlic munchers and so on. He should never, ever speak publicly about these issues, he is simply too stupid and inarticulate to teach anyone anything.

Are you for real? I suggest that you read up on the history of the MS 13 gang. They are many steps below animals. They are vicious murdering thugs. One of their recent victims was a teenage girl. They stabbed her 100 times and cut her heart out.

 

[Phys251]

Lots of people are leaving... businesses... like my family’s business. Packed up and went to Texas.

California's population and economy are holding steady. Kansas's economy is down in the dumps.

 

[enderpotato00]

California's population and economy are holding steady. Kansas's economy is down in the dumps.

But California is now a joke.

 

[truthatallcost]

Move.

My ancestry in this state goes back to 1929, my ancestry in the country goes back to the 1700's. I'm not moving. It's not my fault that Democrats decided to create an overpopulated, over polluted state of haves and have nots from what was once the greatest state in the country. Many of these Democrats came here from the east coast in the 1970's, after ruining those cities.

 

[GreatNews2night]

My ancestry in this state goes back to 1929, my ancestry in the country goes back to the 1700's. I'm not moving. It's not my fault that Democrats decided to create an overpopulated, over polluted state of haves and have nots from what was once the greatest state in the country. Many of these Democrats came here from the east coast in the 1970's, after ruining those cities.

I do agree that California has suffered a decline, and a lot of it can be blamed on Democrats. Many policies in California are too far to the left. While I am slightly leftist I am closer to the center of the political spectrum and I'm perfectly capable of criticizing the excesses of the left. For one thing I'm strongly against illegal immigration and I do agree that a chunk of California's problems stem from out-of-control illegal immigration; gangs are often a direct consequence of the poor integration of a cast of sub-citizens which then results in the youth seeking gangs in a quest for identity and self-affirmation, and the existence of these pockets can often be traced back to the tolerance for the presence of illegal aliens. I'm against the notion of a sanctuary city. The laws exist to be respect in an organized society. These gangs are often involved in illegal activities of all kinds, including murder and drug-dealing. They need to be severely prosecuted with the US citizens among them thrown in jail, the permanent residents among them having their green cards revoked, and the illegal aliens among them being deported. It shouldn't be very hard to understand the term "illegal." It's only seven letters. Sanctuary cities are a joke. How exactly can elected municipal official justify governmental support for breaking our own federal laws?

 

[Vadinho]

Are you for real? I suggest that you read up on the history of the MS 13 gang. They are many steps below animals. They are vicious murdering thugs. One of their recent victims was a teenage girl. They stabbed her 100 times and cut her heart out.

I know who they are and where they came from and what they do. Like I said, Trump is too inarticulate to discuss this issue as it relates to our immigrants and policy. By using this term over and over again, he equates M13 with animals and immigrants from Mexico. It is not too hard to start to think that some or all immigrants are animals, rapists, thugs, murderers, etc. Its the same play he uses on Muslims and quite frankly anyone who opposes him. It gets to be just another line in his juvenile method of explaining his opinions. Basically, he is Homer Simpson with money.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I know who they are and where they came from and what they do. Like I said, Trump is too inarticulate to discuss this issue as it relates to our immigrants and policy. By using this term over and over again, he equates M13 with animals and immigrants from Mexico. It is not too hard to start to think that some or all immigrants are animals, rapists, thugs, murderers, etc. Its the same play he uses on Muslims and quite frankly anyone who opposes him. It gets to be just another line in his juvenile method of explaining his opinions. Basically, he is Homer Simpson with money.

Actually it is the libruls who are attempting to narrow the definition of all three into just "immigrants". People who cross the border illegally are not immigrants. Like it or not, MS 13 gang bangers are many steps below animals. At least animals generally kill for food or to protect the pride. MS 13 kills just for the sake of killing. I have more respect for what I flush down the toilet then I do for MS 13.

 

[PTF]

To The liberal/Demos,everything President Trump say is racist.
If our President wants a cup of coffee , the liberal/Demos will call him a racist because Mr. Trump likes it black w/out cream.
If our President decides to go bowling for relaxation and picks a black ball, he's a racist.
It's getting old folks.

 

[Vadinho]

Actually it is the libruls who are attempting to narrow the definition of all three into just "immigrants". People who cross the border illegally are not immigrants. Like it or not, MS 13 gang bangers are many steps below animals. At least animals generally kill for food or to protect the pride. MS 13 kills just for the sake of killing. I have more respect for what I flush down the toilet then I do for MS 13.

Why do I think you had the same views about immigrants even before you knew M13 existed? It is so easy to bait those who wish to be baited. Face it, this is not about m13 at all is it? Its about your apparent desire to throw out any and all Mexicans from this country regardless of their situation. Now why out of all the people staying here without documents do you suddenly pick on Mexicans? In California, we have been co-mingling with them for the entire history of our state. For some reason, the state is the 6th largest economy on the planet despite your feared Mexicans and gang bangers.