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If you haven't heard or don't know what Homework Detention is, it's a form of discipline that penalizes students who don't do their homework.
I've been to one school that did this, I just want to say that it was very overused and very harsh. Teachers would give you homework detention for missing ONE homework assignment. It was like being punished for missing one day of swimming class.
The schools that do this needs to get back to reality. It's okay to punish students who don't do their homework, but have to give them detention for missing one assignment just proves that you are desperate. Homework isn't really that important. At the school I'm at now, the teachers are not even uptight about such an obsessive assignment. They're not even going to ask or keep you after school.
Is homework detention necessary?
Yes, homework for vocabulary words and things like that is fine, but when the kids are given homework from every class and have to work for 2-3 hours a day on homework on top of what they did in school, I think they just get discouraged and burned out.
So make the children work harder and longer for the failures of the school system? I don't know anything about home schooling. I went to public school and hardly ever did my homework. I had a 3.8 gradepoint average in college though. Go figure.
Maybe not if a student misses one homework assignment, but I think it is absolutely necessary for kids who cannot seem to motivate themselves to do it.If you haven't heard or don't know what Homework Detention is, it's a form of discipline that penalizes students who don't do their homework.
I've been to one school that did this, I just want to say that it was very overused and very harsh. Teachers would give you homework detention for missing ONE homework assignment. It was like being punished for missing one day of swimming class.
The schools that do this needs to get back to reality. It's okay to punish students who don't do their homework, but have to give them detention for missing one assignment just proves that you are desperate. Homework isn't really that important. At the school I'm at now, the teachers are not even uptight about such an obsessive assignment. They're not even going to ask or keep you after school.
Is homework detention necessary?
Then they'll never make it through college.
Homework isn't supposed to be about having fun. It's about learning, retention, and application.
Analyze why it's taking 2-3 hours. If it's because they're struggling, help them. If it's just because the load is high, help them figure out a way to balance the load. But telling them, "Awh, that's too much. Don't you worry about that homework, son."...that teaches them a terrible lesson about work ethic, responsibility, and meeting the expectations of their "superiors".
Then they'll never make it through college.
Homework isn't supposed to be about having fun. It's about learning, retention, and application.
Analyze why it's taking 2-3 hours. If it's because they're struggling, help them. If it's just because the load is high, help them figure out a way to balance the load. But telling them, "Awh, that's too much. Don't you worry about that homework, son."...that teaches them a terrible lesson about work ethic, responsibility, and meeting the expectations of their "superiors".
I see. So school systems should be molded around the philosophy behind your job.Homework is not an equivalent of Work/work.
At work, I'm given a great deal of independence to accomplish what needs to be done, in the most efficient way possible.
At school, I'm only allowed to do it, in the least efficient way I can, by doing mindless and repetitive crap, I don't need to do.
I see. So school systems should be molded around the philosophy behind your job.
That makes perfect sense.
That's not true at all. I hardly ever did my homework. I was a horrible high school student, but I did great in college. Besides, I never told my son not to do his homework or expressed that to him. There are much more effective ways to teach responsibility than homework.
This is not necessarily true. I am the only person in my family with a college degree, let alone advanced degrees. My father was a high school drop out, my mother graduated high school.
My school doesn't care if you don't do your homework, you get a zero and you fail.
I never had to study in high school. I did all the homework assignments, but before tests I never cracked a book or did a study guide. Never created a notes sheet when they were allowed. I graduated 3 people outside of the top 10 in a class of almost 900, had an awesome SAT score, and got offered a 75% tuition scholarship to Baylor.
I ended up at a community college due to finances and had a government professor who took her job so seriously that I almost flunked. Her tests were not about rote memorization or recalling facts from the text. You had to be able to make higher-level connections, draw conclusions, and analyze potential outcomes to pass her tests. And so for the first time in my life I had to study.
I had no clue what to do. None. I'd never gone to a study group, never tried to really do research, nothing. I had to go to a work shop on how to study, and only gained marginal skills by the time the semester ended, barely pulling out a B in a class I damn sure could have made an A in.
So my anecdotal evidence probably means jack squat to you, right? Don't take offense to this, but yours doesn't mean much more to me. Statistically speaking, students who do the homework do better overall, on tests, in regards to behavior, and in general in the schooling environment. Just because we have a few rebel flukes here on the boards to managed success without trying doesn't negate that the statistical swing goes the other way.
I never had to study in high school. I did all the homework assignments, but before tests I never cracked a book or did a study guide. Never created a notes sheet when they were allowed. I graduated 3 people outside of the top 10 in a class of almost 900, had an awesome SAT score, and got offered a 75% tuition scholarship to Baylor.
I ended up at a community college due to finances and had a government professor who took her job so seriously that I almost flunked. Her tests were not about rote memorization or recalling facts from the text. You had to be able to make higher-level connections, draw conclusions, and analyze potential outcomes to pass her tests. And so for the first time in my life I had to study.
I had no clue what to do. None. I'd never gone to a study group, never tried to really do research, nothing. I had to go to a work shop on how to study, and only gained marginal skills by the time the semester ended, barely pulling out a B in a class I damn sure could have made an A in.
So my anecdotal evidence probably means jack squat to you, right? Don't take offense to this, but yours doesn't mean much more to me. Statistically speaking, students who do the homework do better overall, on tests, in regards to behavior, and in general in the schooling environment. Just because we have a few rebel flukes here on the boards who managed success without trying doesn't negate that the statistical swing goes the other way.
What does that mean?
I never had to study in high school. I did all the homework assignments, but before tests I never cracked a book or did a study guide. Never created a notes sheet when they were allowed. I graduated 3 people outside of the top 10 in a class of almost 900, had an awesome SAT score, and got offered a 75% tuition scholarship to Baylor.
I ended up at a community college due to finances and had a government professor who took her job so seriously that I almost flunked. Her tests were not about rote memorization or recalling facts from the text. You had to be able to make higher-level connections, draw conclusions, and analyze potential outcomes to pass her tests. And so for the first time in my life I had to study.
I had no clue what to do. None. I'd never gone to a study group, never tried to really do research, nothing. I had to go to a work shop on how to study, and only gained marginal skills by the time the semester ended, barely pulling out a B in a class I damn sure could have made an A in.
So my anecdotal evidence probably means jack squat to you, right? Don't take offense to this, but yours doesn't mean much more to me. Statistically speaking, students who do the homework do better overall, on tests, in regards to behavior, and in general in the schooling environment. Just because we have a few rebel flukes here on the boards who managed success without trying doesn't negate that the statistical swing goes the other way.
That just means that high school didn't prepare you for college. :shrug:
But guess what, you learned to overcome a new challenge.
Being a rebel isn't the point.
The point is that "going through the motions" isn't learning, it's mediocre, at best
If you haven't heard or don't know what Homework Detention is, it's a form of discipline that penalizes students who don't do their homework.
I've been to one school that did this, I just want to say that it was very overused and very harsh. Teachers would give you homework detention for missing ONE homework assignment. It was like being punished for missing one day of swimming class.
The schools that do this needs to get back to reality. It's okay to punish students who don't do their homework, but have to give them detention for missing one assignment just proves that you are desperate. Homework isn't really that important. At the school I'm at now, the teachers are not even uptight about such an obsessive assignment. They're not even going to ask or keep you after school.
Is homework detention necessary?
Well my job isn't modeled around the school system, so the comparison you made failed.
Sorry, homework is not equal to paid work.
The fact is, school doesn't prepare you for the work world, beyond basic reading and math.
Then explain to me why statistically, children who do homework perform better than children who don't? Even today, when failing to turn in your homework cannot result in failing grades.
So identify the skills needed to prepare one for the world of work please.
Why is it "ridiculous"?I swear - you seriously have the most ****ed up school district there . . . .everything you've said about them makes them just seem worse and worse.
Homework detention? How ridiculous :roll: I'm with you on this.
And yet we have horrible drop out rates, and kids who can barely read.
Kids don't learn much different when they are older than when they are younger. Try teaching a toddler their numbers for hours on end. It doesn't work. Its all about attention span. And its about rewarding teachers who can recognize that when a kid has lost attention and interest, no amount of pounding it in their head is going to work. Yet we don't reward those teachers, or hold them up as role models like we do in other professions. We average them in.
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