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Is having sex with transgender women gay?

It doesn't matter she's a guy she always will be. if your dude having sex with another dude that's not straight.

It doesn't matter if a person appears to be a woman if they're born male they will be male until they die.
This is what transphobic ignorance looks like.

Sexual assault
Consensual sex isn't sexual assault. A trans female having sex with a cisgender guy is far more likely to be the submissive partner, so it isn't assault, especially if she is post-op.
 
This is what transphobic ignorance looks like.
I'm sorry reality is transphobic.
Consensual sex isn't sexual assault. A trans female having sex with a cisgender guy is far more likely to be the submissive partner, so it isn't assault, especially if she is post-op.
If you don't know who you're having sex with you can't consent. A man pretending to be a submissive and pretending to be a woman to trick another man into having sex with him should be considered sexual assault. Even if he mutilated his penis and testicles.
 
I'm sorry reality is transphobic.

Word salad.
If you don't know who you're having sex with you can't consent. A man pretending to be a submissive and pretending to be a woman to trick another man into having sex with him should be considered sexual assault. Even if he mutilated his penis and testicles.
Utter nonsense because no adult is tricked into have consensual sex. . The act of prostitution is proof of this.
 
Word salad.
Reality is still transphobic.
Utter nonsense because no adult is tricked into have consensual sex.
Write their tricked into non-considual sex. If they wouldn't have sex with a person if they knew they were transgender then lying about it is tricking them.

It's not consensual.
. The act of prostitution is proof of this.
Having sex with someone you think is a woman because you don't know that they're really a man is not consentual.

If one having sex with a person a trans person does not disclose their actual sex it's because they're trying to deceive.
 
No it's the sex, sex is anatomical.
I'm not talking about the act but about the arousal one gets from devices like vibrators or cartoon porn.
No the DNA thing you're talking about is false.

You're the one who said it was about DNA before. Did you forget? You said having sex with a trans woman, as a man, makes you gay because it's about the DNA. Now you're saying people can get off things that are anatomically similar to the sex their attracted to? Is that your argument now? What does that mean for transwomen who anatomically look like women?
Sexes anatomical have you ever wondered how they determine which ones the cow and which ones the bull they don't do a DNA sample.

Whether you accept this reality or not it is reality humans are sexually dimorphic.
You apparently don't know what that word means or about the intersex. 😂
 
This is what transphobic ignorance looks like.
Reality isn’t transphobic.
Consensual sex isn't sexual assault. A trans female having sex with a cisgender guy is far more likely to be the submissive partner, so it isn't assault, especially if she is post-op.
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Utter nonsense because no adult is tricked into have consensual sex. . The act of prostitution is proof of this.
a man pretending to be a woman and sleeps with a man under such false pretenses is not consensual. The man didn’t consent to sleep with another man.
 
Arousal is an act.

I was not.
You did when I asked you about it. Here was the exchange.
I think saying a man who likes to date trans women is straight is a bit misogynistic. What this is saying is what makes a woman is makeup and clothing voice and personality and that's not what makes a woman. Being born female is what makes a woman.

But I know this is going to really upset the LGBT Church ladies.

I don't think it upsets anyone that you think attraction is a reflection of someone's DNA and chromosomes and if you know those. That's an amusing theory. 😂 I read a story about a grandfather who went into have some medical tests done because of pain and found out he had a undeveloped womb and some female characteristics that he never knew about. Does that make his wife suddenly Bi sexual? Or how about all the young boys who are attracted to cartoons. There's a whole Japanese porn genre dedicated to it. Guess what. Cartoons don't have DNA. Male of female.

Here you are with your church lady crap.

Trans women are male. When a male and a male get together that's homosexual.

There absolutely is nothing else to it.
Now you've changed your story to anatomical. So what happens when a male has sex with a transwoman who is anatomically a woman and who they see as a woman? How do you keep what you're saying now consistent with what you said previously?
 
You did when I asked you about it. Here was the exchange.
I never mentioned DNA in any of those posts.
Now you've changed your story to anatomical.
When did that change occur?
So what happens when a male has sex with a transwoman who is anatomically a woman
No such thing exists.
and who they see as a woman?
If they lie to themselves and pretend to guy is a woman that's their business
How do you keep what you're saying now consistent with what you said previously?
There's no such thing as a man whose anatomically a woman.
 
Yeah if you're in love and you but know what's going on go for it labels aren't that important.

Exactly. And if anyone else has a problem with it - guess what? It their problem!

We all only get one life.... and it's too damned short to waste a second of it trying to live up to anyone else's arbitrary standards and labels.
 
Exactly. And if anyone else has a problem with it - guess what? It their problem!
Excellent point and I think that's a good approach for many things.
We all only get one life.... and it's too damned short to waste a second of it trying to live up to anyone else's arbitrary standards and labels.
Indeed
 
I never mentioned DNA in any of those posts.
I did and you confirmed your argument that attraction is based on your sex when were born, not how you present now, which now that I'm thinking about it more is a ****ing weird argument to make. Who the **** is attracted to new born babies?
When did that change occur?
Its a hypothetical, why don't you use your imagination? If you're a transwoman who presents as a woman today and you attract a man is that man gay because you were born a male? What is your actual argument? Don't be frail about it. Is it about anatomy and anatomical attraction or about your DNA?
No such thing exists.
They do. If your argument is that a dildo is anatomical to a penis so it's okay for women to get off on them and that doesnt make them plasticsexuals, then why does your argument change for fake breasts and constructed vaginas?
If they lie to themselves and pretend to guy is a woman that's their business
What does this mean for your arguments about dildos? Why does your argument appear to keep changing? Are women who use didlos pretending but are really plasticsexuals?
There's no such thing as a man whose anatomically a woman.
But there is such thing as a piece of plastic that is? Make your arguments coherent.
 
😂

What crime? Is it a crime now to lie to yourself sexual partners? What about women with breast implants or men who pretend to be wealthy and successful? Criminals as well?
It is a crime to deceive a person so you can have sex with them. It's called rape by deception. There would not have been consent had there not been deception. Your questions are answered in the links. Being obtuse is not going to win any debates. Please learn shit before offering stupid arguments.



 
It is a crime to deceive a person so you can have sex with them. It's called rape by deception. There would not have been consent had there not been deception. Your questions are answered in the links. Being obtuse is not going to win any debates. Please learn shit before offering stupid arguments.



The first case involves a person pretending to be the victim's boyfriend in a dark room. That's not the same as lying about your occupation or wealth or having fake tits or wearing hair plugs.

The second link mentions the first case and some international cases, which I don't give a shit about because I'm talking about laws in this county.

The third was about when deceit is actually a crime and that's when it harms someone, like not revealing that your HIV +. Again, not the same as not revealing that you have fake tits. (Which isn't just a trans issue. Plenty of men have been lured in by fake tits. 😂 )
 
The first case involves a person pretending to be the victim's boyfriend in a dark room. That's not the same as lying about your occupation or wealth or having fake tits or wearing hair plugs.

The second link mentions the first case and some international cases, which I don't give a shit about because I'm talking about laws in this county.

The third was about when deceit is actually a crime and that's when it harms someone, like not revealing that your HIV +. Again, not the same as not revealing that you have fake tits. (Which isn't just a trans issue. Plenty of men have been lured in by fake tits. 😂 )
You have no clue in how to compile information. Which is why you seem confused.

If you engage in sexual activity with someone without their informed consent, that is sexual assault, ie rape. But I guess consent is not a thing for you.

I assert that a person's gender identity matters. If a person identifies as straight and is disgusted at the idea of having same-sex relationships, and you deceive that person to **** them. You are immorally wrong and an asshole. But I am not arguing just for straight people. Anyone who identifies in however way, that they do. How a person identifies no matter the person matters. Thinking that lying makes it ok to go against someone's wishes is abhorrent behavior.
 
The first case involves a person pretending to be the victim's boyfriend in a dark room. That's not the same as lying about your occupation or wealth or having fake tits or wearing hair plugs.

The second link mentions the first case and some international cases, which I don't give a shit about because I'm talking about laws in this county.

The third was about when deceit is actually a crime and that's when it harms someone, like not revealing that your HIV +. Again, not the same as not revealing that you have fake tits. (Which isn't just a trans issue. Plenty of men have been lured in by fake tits. 😂 )
I never really understood why men get so upset about fake boobs. Like what's the difference? Do they feel or act differently?
 
Don't see the need to label it - or at the very least associate it with a single label.
 
You have no clue in how to compile information. Which is why you seem confused.

If you engage in sexual activity with someone without their informed consent, that is sexual assault, ie rape. But I guess consent is not a thing for you.

I assert that a person's gender identity matters. If a person identifies as straight and is disgusted at the idea of having same-sex relationships, and you deceive that person to **** them. You are immorally wrong and an asshole. But I am not arguing just for straight people. Anyone who identifies in however way, that they do. How a person identifies no matter the person matters. Thinking that lying makes it ok to go against someone's wishes is abhorrent behavior.
Define lying. Are you saying the mere act of being trans is lying or are you saying not telling a potential partner that you're trans is lying?
 
I never really understood why men get so upset about fake boobs. Like what's the difference? Do they feel or act differently?
They (both silicone and saline) are much firmer than natural breasts that are mostly fat tissue.
 
They (both silicone and saline) are much firmer than natural breasts that are mostly fat tissue.
I'm gay, so I'm still lost as to why the outrage. Your breasts are firmer than usual, so what? How does that affect men and their ability to enjoy them?
 
You have no clue in how to compile information. Which is why you seem confused.

If you engage in sexual activity with someone without their informed consent, that is sexual assault, ie rape. But I guess consent is not a thing for you.
Its not not a thing just because you pretend about it. Lying about your occupation or the amount of money in your bank account or having fake tits isn't something that's going to get you charged for non consensual sex. Not in this country.
I assert that a person's gender identity matters. If a person identifies as straight and is disgusted at the idea of having same-sex relationships, and you deceive that person to **** them. You are immorally wrong and an asshole.
Morals are entirely made up. They are make believe.
But I am not arguing just for straight people. Anyone who identifies in however way, that they do. How a person identifies no matter the person matters. Thinking that lying makes it ok to go against someone's wishes is abhorrent behavior.
Again, this is just your opinion. And?
 
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