Absolutely. When you see what kids go through with this online harassment and absolutely vile behavior, it should make anyone's stomach churn.
Why not teach the kid that words on a screen have no consequences in their lives, therefore they are easily ignored.
Because you would have to be an absolute fool to believe that. It's the same kids that are physically and/or verbally beating on them in their schools, in their neighborhoods. They just find another avenue to spread it even further. I've seen it, I've read it.
Seriously. If you have that little of an understanding of what people do with cyber bullying, you're a damn fool and I hope to Christ you never have a kid that has to go through with it so you can continue to utter such ignorant trash.
Why is it when cyberbullying is being discussed, the subject jumps to actual real life events?
If the child is being beat up at school, that is a police matter.
Words on a screen have no effect on their life whatsoever, and the parents have a duty to teach them that fact.
You really should keep your name calling to a minimum when you don't know what you are talking about.
Man this is hilarious. Of course I go to real life events. I know kids that go through it right now, and it is serious. I can really tell you have no idea what you are talking about. It's a police matter? Guy, if it happens at the school, it's also a school and outside school matter. You can't isolate bullying to one department and one avenue of life. Do you know how rare it is that parents even go the legal route to solve physical attacks? Do you even know what happens to these kids once they do? Do you know the statistical impact of cyber bullying with suicide?
No, of course you don't.
We are not going to agree on this.
You can allow bullying to continue, while I would stop it right away and have.
Parental involvement needs to happen, not parent to kid, but parent to parent.
Like I said, if the child is assaulted and the parent does nothing, who's fault is that?
Why not teach the kid that words on a screen have no consequences in their lives, therefore they are easily ignored.
That's because you're wrong. I'm right and you are wrong. I've got data and a ton of experience to show my point. You are wrong.
By telling them that words have no consequences...boo hoo suck it up kid? That's so helpful, guy.
Of course parent involvement needs to happen. Everyone (parents, students, parents to students, teachers to students, etc etc.) has to become involved and accept bullying for what it is instead of pretending it doesn't exist, that it's innocent, and so on. Cyber bullying is real.
It's become more acceptable for adults to claim that online threats and remarks are hurtful, scary, and so on, but damned if a kid can say the same thing. We expect kids to put up with more crap than we'd ever accept an adult to go through without sympathetic comment and outrage. Good God man, every several months on this forum we have people ranting about the online harassment people get for having their political or religious beliefs becoming a target for online threats and harassment. But children who go through it are just a bunch of pansies. They need to suck it up.
Good lord. What sort of sick twisted reality do you people live in where you put vulnerable kids through the gauntlet, but won't subjugate yourselves to that sort of abuse?
You're also presuming that the parent doesn't have to go through school administrators so they can do their investigations too. The fun part is watching schools circle the wagons to undermine the idea that anyone did anything during school hours and a kid just somehow got their facts wrong or that no one saw anything.
Are you saying that if your child was beat up, in school or out, you would HAVE TO go to the school first before making the police report?
Why would you even involve the school in a criminal matter. That is for the police to do.
Are you saying that if your child was beat up, in school or out, you would HAVE TO go to the school first before making the police report?
Why would you even involve the school in a criminal matter. That is for the police to do.
It happened in the schools. The police work with the schools. The schools have bullying policies, and state laws they have to follow. The schools are liable.
See above.
Why is it when cyberbullying is being discussed, the subject jumps to actual real life events?
If the child is being beat up at school, that is a police matter.
Words on a screen have no effect on their life whatsoever, and the parents have a duty to teach them that fact.
You really should keep your name calling to a minimum when you don't know what you are talking about.
Really all I am seeing is people say let's treat children like a victim until proven they can be strong. Seriously is this how the majority of people think nowadays? When I was a kid I was very much into my art, I obsessed over it, and I would go to actual artist and designers and ask them for their honest opinions and they would give me honest opinions that at the time made me cry or be upset with myself. I would have other kids say they didn't really like the art either, and I was just so obsessed with the idea of being an artist that I tried to get comic strips in the school paper only to be told no. All of these instances hurt, but they toughened me up as well. It isn't the same as bullying, but the kind of children that you guys describe I guess would just go jump off a bridge? Kids need toughened up. If we keep raising a society of victims you'll get victims, that blame others for there problems and live with their parents until they are 30 because they can't figure out that life just sometimes sucks.
So apparently a trans-gender game modder killer him/herself by jumping off a bridge due to people urging him/her to do so thinking that it was all a big ploy to get more attention to their mods. I honestly rolled my eyes at it. It's always bad when someone dies, commits suicide but c'mon. Really? I think my crude sentiment can be best summed up by Tyler the Creator's Tweet:
Sure that is really crude but the guy is straight to the point. It's ridiculous. Your weapon against it is the on/off switch on the back of the computer. The sleep/wake button on top of the iPhone. So not really a political thing, just think it's one of those made up white people problems we have nowadays that end up becoming a thing bigger than it really needs to be. So thoughts?
Mostly it makes you sound bitter and unsympathetic to other's pain. *I had to deal with it, so you should too.*
Bullying in my day is nothing compared to what kids now run into on a daily basis.
What you and I went thru back then is Stone Age tech compared to the new world we all live in
Bullying has evolved since your day. The net, social circles, FB and other media sites, amplify bullying to the nth degree.
It follows you everywhere.
Bullying blamed in death of Nova Scotia teen - The Globe and Mail
Amanda Todd: police alerted to extortion suspect before her suicide - British Columbia - CBC News
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/us/30bully.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
If you get cyber bullied, just switch of your computer. If you get bullied at school, go to a different school. If you get bullied at work, find a different job. If you get bullied by a parent/spouse, move away from them.
I don't understand how people get bullied in any situation when it's so easy to avoid.
.........It is total BS...'just go somewhere else.' Like a teen has that kind of control over his life or his parents can just afford it.
A couple of days ago, a 16 yr old boy brought a gun to school, ready to kill, and a teacher (coach?) tackled him after he shot it off once. It was because he was being bullied. I dont know if it was cyber-bullying or in person but my guess is both.
Bullying kills others besides those being bullied. The guy with Aspergers that killed all those kids in Newtown was bullied. I think the Littleton teens were too and so have many of those school shooters.
You point out and stop the bullies....they are the ones in the wrong and you should make THEIR parents deal with them and after that point, even hold them accountable. How can responsible parents ignore such behavior in their kids? I would think they'd want to know and to correct their kids, so they'll grow up to be better people.
How old do you think I am dude? I got Facebook when you had to be in college to have "the facebook" I've been on Twitter since it started. What ever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me?
Really all I am seeing is people say let's treat children like a victim until proven they can be strong. Seriously is this how the majority of people think nowadays? When I was a kid I was very much into my art, I obsessed over it, and I would go to actual artist and designers and ask them for their honest opinions and they would give me honest opinions that at the time made me cry or be upset with myself. I would have other kids say they didn't really like the art either, and I was just so obsessed with the idea of being an artist that I tried to get comic strips in the school paper only to be told no. All of these instances hurt, but they toughened me up as well. It isn't the same as bullying, but the kind of children that you guys describe I guess would just go jump off a bridge? Kids need toughened up. If we keep raising a society of victims you'll get victims, that blame others for there problems and live with their parents until they are 30 because they can't figure out that life just sometimes sucks.
John, the simple fact of the matter is, we treat adults with bubblewrap compared to children. Adults have more protections, more enforcement, and so on with anti-bullying in the workplace than children do in the school system. That's absolutely backwards from they way it should be.
Well if this is the case, then it needs to be rectified. I'm not sure if it is the case or not though.
That is because we are raising a pathetic generation. I am worried about the outcome of these weak kids that are so intent on what other people say.
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