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Technocratic_Utilitarian said:Which universities use quotas? ANy sources?
galenrox said:It is true affirmative action is institutionalized racism, and I'm opposed to it, but here's something to think about, if I may play the devil's advocate for a moment:
When my girlfriend first moved out to Iowa City, her best friend was jewish, and over the course of their first semester on several occasions they encountered several people who had never met a jew before. She's also a member of a traditionally jewish sorority, and so I've talked to the girls in there, and apparently every single one of them has had several of these people.
This points out how undiverse things can be. The only reason we have anything even remotely representing diversity is because we're the largest of the Universities in Iowa.
And these kids aren't from ridiculously small towns. I've been to some "small towns" in Iowa, and they don't strike me as all that small. Their relatively small and spread out, but the idea of that many people living together and someone making it all the way to the age of 18 without ever meeting a jew is fascinating.
How do I sign my kids up?:rofl
Technocratic_Utilitarian said:I was informed that such policies were illegal in many colleges. Where does it say they have a quota and they take certain per centages regardless of merit?
It's very ambiguous a topic anyway. If you have two equally qualified candiates, you cannot prove they hired one due to race or didn't hire the other unless they say so. Is there some way to delve into the minds of others?
Technocratic_Utilitarian said:I was informed that such policies were illegal in many colleges. Where does it say they have a quota and they take certain per centages regardless of merit?
It's very ambiguous a topic anyway. If you have two equally qualified candiates, you cannot prove they hired one due to race or didn't hire the other unless they say so. Is there some way to delve into the minds of others?
Napoleon's Nightingale said:Apparently you never read the doccument. It states "The overall goal of our recruitment should be to have the student body mirror Ohio's projected demographics in ten years." Do you know what demographics are?It also provides percentages of racial diversity at the university and states the goal of the policy is to improve the percentage of ethnic minorities admitted by the university. The only way to do that is to set the academic reccord of it's applicants aside because ethnic minorities tend to be less academically qualified. Jallman inadvertantly brough up a good point. If universities base their admissions policy on an applicants academic record then why do they ask your ethnicity?
I was informed that such policies were illegal in many colleges. Where does it say they have a quota and they take certain per centages regardless of merit?
nkgupta80 said:they don't say it, but colleges want it and are required to have it. Its so funny how the valedictorian from a highschool who did all clubs, excelled in extracurrics, great recs etc... gets rejected from harvard, while smart, priveleged, but not as qualified girl with native american heritage gets scholarship to harvard. Its stories like these that show that affirmative action is not doing what it should be.
Its even getting unfair for minorities like asians.
George_Washington said:Affirmative action is reverse racism towards European Americans and should absolutely be opposed at all costs. It's a stupid, clever tool used by minorities that want to undermine the majority.
Its understandable that the valedictorian would be upset becuase she was not allowed in t Harvard, but the native girl did. However, wrong it may be diversity is always the number one goal in universities and colleges. There are always going to be flaws in any program.
George_Washington said:Affirmative action is reverse racism towards European Americans and should absolutely be opposed at all costs. It's a stupid, clever tool used by minorities that want to undermine the majority.
galenrox said:lol, off topic but funny thing...my mom told me that I need to make friends with more asians so I can do well in school!!!
jallman said::rofl its funny cuz its true.
George_Washington said:It's not true, I know people of European decent that are just as smart at math related fields as any Asian I've ever met.
Technocratic_Utilitarian said:It's fairly obvious that admission and jobs should not be based on factors that do not have any influence on merit. You should only get the job/admission based on merit. You should not be allowed to refuse someone for a reason not based on merit/pragmatic concerns (room).
Academic Institutions should, ideally, be based on a mix of need/merit.
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