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Is „Debate Politics“ mostly a place full of really old, retired people from the US Army ?

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  • I am older than 50

    Votes: 67 62.6%
  • I am younger than 50

    Votes: 33 30.8%
  • I worked for the US Military

    Votes: 26 24.3%
  • I didn’t work for them

    Votes: 65 60.7%
  • I am a Republican

    Votes: 16 15.0%
  • I am a Democrat

    Votes: 36 33.6%
  • I am an Independent

    Votes: 42 39.3%
  • I am from the US

    Votes: 88 82.2%
  • I am a foreigner

    Votes: 8 7.5%

  • Total voters
    107

Tender Branson

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It seems this place here is made up of old people who have been in the US Army ... or am I wrong ?

Usually, the Internet is more diverse and younger, but here it seems there are disproportionately old folks around.
 
That's one the reasons I like it here, Tender. I really enjoy talking and listening to people who have experienced important and historic events first-hand, such as the civil rights movement, the Kennedys, the Gulf War(s), the Apollo missions, the War on Terror, Benny Hill, etc.
 
That's one the reasons I like it here, Tender. I really enjoy talking and listening to people who have experienced important and historic events first-hand, such as the civil rights movement, the Kennedys, the Gulf War(s), the Apollo missions, the War on Terror, Benny Hill, etc.

Yeah, me too.

My posting should not be seen as condescending or ignorant of old people or something.

In fact, I really like old people.

I worked in a retirement home at the ages of 14-16 during the summer months in between school.
 
That's one the reasons I like it here, Tender. I really enjoy talking and listening to people who have experienced important and historic events first-hand, such as the civil rights movement, the Kennedys, the Gulf War(s), the Apollo missions, the War on Terror, Benny Hill, etc.
Benny Hill? lol .. Wow .. haven't heard that in awhile.
 
Yeah, me too.

My posting should not be seen as condescending or ignorant of old people or something.

In fact, I really like old people.

I worked in a retirement home at the ages of 14-16 during the summer months in between school.

No, no, Tender--you didn't sound condescending, at all! And I like older people, too. At family reunions, I enjoy listening to (and recording) such people talking about years gone by. It's interesting and very educational.
 
If I said I was over 50 and had served in the military, I would get more respect than I do.

But I reject that. Respect is earned. Respect is earned by mercilessly kicking asses.

And serving in a Western military is just a job nowadays. My guess is that it's less dangerous than being a cop or a lumberjack.
 
No, no, Tender--you didn't sound condescending, at all! And I like older people, too. At family reunions, I enjoy listening to (and recording) such people talking about years gone by. It's interesting and very educational.

I like(d) how old people, like my late grandmother and -father, (born in 1925 and 1926, died 2007 and 2013) even had different dialect words that many people don’t use anymore these days.

Maybe some still do here out West (in rural western Austria), but in Vienna for example, the local Vienna dialect is slowly dying out, because the young people speak even Standard German these days (like actual Germans !).

And some new-style mashup of „foreign-German“ mixed with Viennese (the city has like 55% migrant background) and elementary schools are often 80%+ with children of migrant backgrounds.

Anyway, my grandparents from the mom side (above) didn’t like to talk about the 2nd WW because my granddad usually started to cry when asked about it, so nobody did (incl. me, even though I was interested in the topic when they were still living and during my high school years). My grandpa was drafted into the Hitler Army at age 17 and was transported to the French front for the following 2-3 years to serve as cannon fodder, coming from a poor, isolated mountain farmer background. I always held my granddad in highest regards because of this traumatic experience and for raising his family properly after returning from the battlefield, despite everything being completely destroyed here.

My granddad + grandmother from my dad side were even older, born in the 1910s already - but already died before my birth in 1987. So, never met them, but they were also poor mountain farmers.
 
I like(d) how old people, like my late grandmother and -father, (born in 1925 and 1926, died 2007 and 2013) even had different dialect words that many people don’t use anymore these days.

Maybe some still do here out West (in rural western Austria), but in Vienna for example, the local Vienna dialect is slowly dying out, because the young people speak even Standard German these days (like actual Germans !).

And some new-style mashup of „foreign-German“ mixed with Viennese (the city has like 55% migrant background) and elementary schools are often 80%+ with children of migrant backgrounds.

Anyway, my grandparents from the mom side (above) didn’t like to talk about the 2nd WW because my granddad usually started to cry when asked about it, so nobody did (incl. me, even though I was interested in the topic when they were still living and during my high school years). My grandpa was drafted into the Hitler Army at age 17 and was transported to the French front for the following 2-3 years to serve as cannon fodder, coming from a poor, isolated mountain farmer background. I always held my granddad in highest regards because of this traumatic experience and for raising his family properly after returning from the battlefield, despite everything being completely destroyed here.

My granddad + grandmother from my dad side were even older, born in the 1910s already - but already died before my birth in 1987. So, never met them, but they were also poor mountain farmers.

Tender, all of that is amazing! I hope you were somehow able to record your grandparents during the few times they were able to talk about it. And, Tender, please record yourself talking about these memories! They will be very valuable to your descendants. Thanks again for all that--it's priceless!
 
1. I am 84.

2. I usually vote Republican because so many of today's Democrats are so sanctimonious and cocksure and obnoxious (such as Nancy Pelosi).

3. I do not especially like older people. If they were mean when young, that's how they still are.

a. But I DO like that older people are usually too old to engage in certain kinds of violent crime. So I do not become so terrified of a 70-year-old as I am when I see teenagers or twentysomethings coming toward me.

4. I treasure my teen years in the 1950s -- the last peaceful decade in our country's history.

a. Yes, it was far from perfect, but at least no one even thought about the issue of violent crime.
 
I worked as a defense contractor (supporting US Navy communications) for 22.5 years of the approximately 50 years that I have worked (so far). Based on that, I checked “I worked for the US military”. Of course, that also means that I had worked more years not for the US military than I had worked for the US military.
 
I like(d) how old people, like my late grandmother and -father, (born in 1925 and 1926, died 2007 and 2013) even had different dialect words that many people don’t use anymore these days.

Maybe some still do here out West (in rural western Austria), but in Vienna for example, the local Vienna dialect is slowly dying out, because the young people speak even Standard German these days (like actual Germans !).

And some new-style mashup of „foreign-German“ mixed with Viennese (the city has like 55% migrant background) and elementary schools are often 80%+ with children of migrant backgrounds.

Anyway, my grandparents from the mom side (above) didn’t like to talk about the 2nd WW because my granddad usually started to cry when asked about it, so nobody did (incl. me, even though I was interested in the topic when they were still living and during my high school years). My grandpa was drafted into the Hitler Army at age 17 and was transported to the French front for the following 2-3 years to serve as cannon fodder, coming from a poor, isolated mountain farmer background. I always held my granddad in highest regards because of this traumatic experience and for raising his family properly after returning from the battlefield, despite everything being completely destroyed here.

My granddad + grandmother from my dad side were even older, born in the 1910s already - but already died before my birth in 1987. So, never met them, but they were also poor mountain farmers.
My Dad was also in WWII with the 26th Yankee Div. & rarely talked about it, although I have his Bronze Star & the citation explaining his bravery in battle.
I'm a Yankee i.e. from New England & in 1964 I moved to New Orleans for a while. I got use to the dialect & specifically the local accent. I returned with my wife in 2004 & found that the accent had been watered down, except for a few old dudes we met.
 
Yeah, me too.

My posting should not be seen as condescending or ignorant of old people or something.

In fact, I really like old people.

I worked in a retirement home at the ages of 14-16 during the summer months in between school.
well, i dont consider myself old at 61
i am seasoned
yes, i saw the assassination and the Apollo landings

i have witnessed war close enough that i never wish it upon anyone ( beirut lebabon right after the marine barracks bombings)

for a lot of us, i think we started out more idealistic, and then turned realistic as the years went by

i have changed some of my views especially when it comes to social issues, and have become even more bullheaded on others (the debt and overspending)

older people dont have all the answers though....we need young ideas and new ways of doing things (just not sure about this new way of teaching my grandkids math in school)

Every generation thinks the previous ones screwed up big time and left them with a mess to clean up....well, that is probably true to an extent....so its time for you all to go to work
 
That's one the reasons I like it here, Tender. I really enjoy talking and listening to people who have experienced important and historic events first-hand, such as the civil rights movement, the Kennedys, the Gulf War(s), the Apollo missions, the War on Terror, Benny Hill, etc.
It was the WW2 vets that fascinated me. They came to things from a completely different perspective.

I remember one specifically talking about neo nazis in America and that just baffled him. He thought it was just a bunch of kids trying to be jerks.
 
It seems this place here is made up of old people who have been in the US Army ... or am I wrong ?

Usually, the Internet is more diverse and younger, but here it seems there are disproportionately old folks around.
You're wrong. What you are hearing are the armchair warriors from the right who want to fight everyone foreign and domestic.
 
It was the WW2 vets that fascinated me. They came to things from a completely different perspective.

I remember one specifically talking about neo nazis in America and that just baffled him. He thought it was just a bunch of kids trying to be jerks.
At ninety eight my almost father in law is a combat vet from ww2 and according to him the gop is looking a lot like the nazi party of the thirties.
 
well, i dont consider myself old at 61
i am seasoned
yes, i saw the assassination and the Apollo landings

i have witnessed war close enough that i never wish it upon anyone ( beirut lebabon right after the marine barracks bombings)

for a lot of us, i think we started out more idealistic, and then turned realistic as the years went by

i have changed some of my views especially when it comes to social issues, and have become even more bullheaded on others (the debt and overspending)

older people dont have all the answers though....we need young ideas and new ways of doing things (just not sure about this new way of teaching my grandkids math in school)

Every generation thinks the previous ones screwed up big time and left them with a mess to clean up....well, that is probably true to an extent....so its time for you all to go to work
Agreed, it's up to the young. We tried, well some did.
 
Not to change the subject, but I used to post at the Baltimoe Sun discussion board, Sunspots. I wonder if anyone else did.

I believe Klatu did, as well as Veritas, but Veritas seems to be gone now.
 
1. I am 84.

2. I usually vote Republican because so many of today's Democrats are so sanctimonious and cocksure and obnoxious (such as Nancy Pelosi).

3. I do not especially like older people. If they were mean when young, that's how they still are.

a. But I DO like that older people are usually too old to engage in certain kinds of violent crime. So I do not become so terrified of a 70-year-old as I am when I see teenagers or twentysomethings coming toward me.

4. I treasure my teen years in the 1950s -- the last peaceful decade in our country's history.

a. Yes, it was far from perfect, but at least no one even thought about the issue of violent crime.
You're amazing! I hope I have the interest in joining in discussion found on DP if I manage to reach your age. Knowing how old you are makes reading your posts more interesting.
 
I find this site skews older than any other place I am engaged. I don’t mind that at all. It also appears to skew heavily Caucasian which lends the weird effect of watching a bunch of white people argue which each other about brown and black people. I find that strange but also a bit entertaining.
 
I have gathered from here and there that this is a European forum. I think I like it more than American forums. There appears to me to be here a better accommodation of views from far right to far left, without the whole thing bursting at the seams. American forums to me appear to be very polarised. A forum is either heavily conservative, with little accommodation for the left; or heavily to the left, with little accommodation for the right. American leftist forums are also heavily woke, insufferably so.
 
It seems this place here is made up of old people who have been in the US Army ... or am I wrong ?

Usually, the Internet is more diverse and younger, but here it seems there are disproportionately old folks around.
You are absolutely wrong some DP members were in the Navy, Marines and Air Force.
 
I find this site skews older than any other place I am engaged. I don’t mind that at all. It also appears to skew heavily Caucasian which lends the weird effect of watching a bunch of white people argue which each other about brown and black people. I find that strange but also a bit entertaining.
I was young once but it has seem to pass me by...not complaining but I guess that what happens to all.
 
I'm older than 50, wasn't in the military, democrat, and from the US.

(And if you people - everyone that posts a poll -would make polls public, you'd know who voted what!! Very few polls need to be private.)
 
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