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Is the motive really that important? Anyone who knew about it and allowed it to continue, should be sacked.
Is the motive really that important? Anyone who knew about it and allowed it to continue, should be sacked.
How is the Tea Party hurting the GOP?You know, when you think about it, the GOP has more to worry about the Tea party than the dems.
I mean, the Tea Party is so, well, you know. They only help to assure democrat victories. The TP'ers hurt the GOP more than than anyone. It makes sense that a Republican would go after them.
It should be interesting to see how this plays out.
Interesting development, but whether the staffer was a Republican or not is not the question. The IRS DID target Tea Party groups a lot more closely than Progressive groups. However, this does not appear to be political, but bungling how the IRS investigates applications for 501(c)3 status by groups. Many Tea Party groups had applied, which appeared to be more political than providing social programs, may have had an impact on how the IRS investigated, but the IRS ended up going overboard. This seems more like incompetence than political motivation, but whatever the reason, the IRS does owe apologies to the Tea Party groups they overscrutinized.
However, take this story with a grain of salt. The story is laid out by a Democrat. What actually occurred could be different. Let's wait and see how quickly this can be verified, one way or the other.
Article is here.
Edit: The actual transcripts of the committee hearings (Part 1 and Part 2) seem to back this up. No wonder Daryl Issa did not want the transcripts released.
How is the Tea Party hurting the GOP?
How is the Tea Party hurting the GOP?
Would that include Darrel Issa as well?
That's not what I meant. Why do you blame the Democratic majority on the Tea Party?The fact that there is still a democratic majority in the senate.
How is the Tea Party hurting the GOP?
You can come up with all the conspiracy theories you want to, but they can't
change what is in the actual hearing transcripts, which is testimony under oath, and even by a Republican who oversaw the IRS Cincinatti office.
And I'm sure Darrell Issa and Fox News will continue to insinuate President Obama was behind this.
How is the Tea Party hurting the GOP?
Q: And, sir, are you familiar with the National Treasury Employees Union?
A: Yes.
Q: Are you a member of the union?
A: No, I am not.
Q: And __________, are you registered to vote?
A: Yes, I am.
Q: And do you have a party affiliation?
A: Yes, I do.
Q: What's your party affiliation?
A: I am a conservative republican.
Oh FFS....
Without regard to who started the targeting or why we have seen and heard several top level officials who acknowledged that they were aware that the targeting was going on and did nothing about it. That's unacceptable under any circumstances. If nobody informed the White House that doesn't mean that the White House is guiltless in this. Oversight starts at the top and if the top has opted to insulate itself rather than lead then it becomes nothing more than a pawn of the infrastructure beneath it.
You may have a point there. The Democrats court social conservatives and the Republicans court fiscal liberals. Those seem to be the swing voters but fiscal conservatives account for a huge portion of voters and we're fed up with both parties being against us.I think it swings the moderates and independants towards the democrat side. I know it does for me.
It's the middle that decides elections.
A handful of Tea Partiers are harming the Tea Party movement and the GOP, but that isn't the same as the movement (as a whole) hurting the GOP. There are plenty of examples of Democrats hurting their own party.I am not a witch, legitimate rape, etc... The tea party is a big tent party for crazytown.
In 2010 the GOP lost 3 easily winnable senate seats, Sharon Angle in Nevada, Ken Buck in Colorado, and Christine O'Donell in Delaware. In 2012 the Tea Party primaried Dick Lugar with Richard Mordock who was crushed. Missouri should have gone red, but Todd Akin couldn't keep his mouth shut. That's at least 5 senate seats off the top of my head. Tea party candidates routinely under perform GOP baselines by 6-10 points in state-wide races.
Without the tea party, the Senate would have been either GOP or 50/50. Their complete compromise-a-phobia has also prevented the GOP from adapting to compensate for changing demographics.
"inexcusable" - President ObamaFrom the transcript, made under penalty of perjury:
BWHAHAHHAHAH! The GOP was exposed again!
Obama disagrees with you, even though his own administration is at fault.Jeepers, these groups were not targetted. Why do you think there was something sinister behind this? They just wanted to use the same rules/protocol on all like-minded groups. Why is that so freakin hard to accept?
Jeepers, these groups were not targetted. Why do you think there was something sinister behind this? They just wanted to use the same rules/protocol on all like-minded groups. Why is that so freakin hard to accept?
Obama disagrees with you, even though his own administration is at fault.
Jeepers, these groups were not targetted. Why do you think there was something sinister behind this? They just wanted to use the same rules/protocol on all like-minded groups. Why is that so freakin hard to accept?
They were targeted. I'm not sure that there is even any legitimate debate over that.
They were targeted..
Excerpt from transcript of deposition of IRS Cincinnati manager, under penalty of perjury:
Q: And, sir, are you familiar with the National Treasury Employees Union?
A: Yes.
Q: Are you a member of the union?
A: No, I am not.
Q: And __________, are you registered to vote?
A: Yes, I am.
Q: And do you have a party affiliation?
A: Yes, I do.
Q: What's your party affiliation?
A: I am a conservative republican.
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