Iran Will Have Nuclear Warhead by 2009: Report

[Sergeant Stinger1]

Perhaps we should have invaded Iran instead of "liberating":roll: Iraq.
What do we do now that we have worn out our Troops going after Saddam to settle Bushs personal "We will invade what ever country 'I' want to invade"?

 

[EAGLE1]

Mikhail again if you wanted to invest schools and hospitals surely youd build nulcear power plants for domestic energy and then sell your oil on the international markets for a vast profit which you can then invest domestically?

Or is that some kind of voodoo economics?

 

[Monk-Eye]

Articulate Sensible Admirable

"Articulate Sensible Admirable"

I believe that one way or another the US is going to be in the middle of it.
Rudy Giuliani is my favorite right now, though he has allot of personal baggage weighing him down.
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[Voidwar]

Mikhail again if you wanted to invest schools and hospitals surely youd build nulcear power plants for domestic energy and then sell your oil on the international markets for a vast profit which you can then invest domestically?

Or is that some kind of voodoo economics?

It's just plain dumb economics. The building and maintaining of the reactor is crazy expensive, in a country where energy comes out of he ground. Far better to simply power the country on oil, and sell oil to build the schools and hospitals. The amount it takes to power the country does not significantly eat into the overall supply available for the market.

The situation you describe would be akin to a man who bought the biggest most expensive crane on earth, , , to build a second garage. Far too much initial investment to justify.

 

[EAGLE1]

It's just plain dumb economics. The building and maintaining of the reactor is crazy expensive, in a country where energy comes out of he ground. Far better to simply power the country on oil, and sell oil to build the schools and hospitals. The amount it takes to power the country does not significantly eat into the overall supply available for the market.

The situation you describe would be akin to a man who bought the biggest most expensive crane on earth, , , to build a second garage. Far too much initial investment to justify.

Funny that. You say that nuclear power is a 'crazy expensive' option but I wasnt aware that oil & gas is a renewable resource.

How long is this oil & gas of theirs gonna last?

Besides dont they already have power shortages and a rapidly increasing population?

Funny how the US didnt see the nuclear option as crazy expensive when the Shah was in power dont you think? In fact it helped out.

 

[Slainte]

The building and maintaining of the reactor is crazy expensive, in a country where energy comes out of he ground.

Not neccesarily oil doesn't come out of the ground that easily, especially in Iran. Decades of American sanctions and efforts to prevent foreign investment mean that production is very inefficient. It's estimated in a few years that Iran will actually be a net importer of oil. It already imports about half of it's refined oil. Also the simple size of Iran and the fact that most Iranian transport industries have little foreign investment mean that getting from A to B in Iran takes a lot more oil than in most countries. In the natural gas industry, as Iran's gas companies are again horribly inefficient state subsidised things, production is expensive and slow. There has even been talk of rationing gas, something rather amazing in a country with the second largest natural reserves.

An interesting article:

Iran uses more gas per capita than China

Iran sits atop the world's second largest gas reserves after Russia but its national gas company said yesterday it may face rationing if domestic demand continues to increase, a news agency reported.

Iran has said it wants nuclear power to generate electricity, allowing it to conserve more of its valuable gas and oil for export.

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Government subsidies have helped make the country of 70 million people the world's fifth largest gas consumer. It burns more gas than Europe's largest economy Germany.

The world's fourth big-gest oil exporter also has to import about 40 per cent of its gasoline needs because of a shortage of refining capacity. Parliament has backed plans to raise prices and ration the fuel to restrain consumption.

Btw how much does it cost to build and maintain a reactor? Surely it can't be that much if every country which has the ability to do it does.

 

[Tashah]

Btw how much does it cost to build and maintain a reactor? Surely it can't be that much if every country which has the ability to do it does.

The financial cost of a nuclear reactor is not overly prohibitive. What most countries lack is the engineering expertise to construct a working reactor and the technical capability to maintain and control the nuclear fuel cycle.

The Iranian nuclear reactor at Busheir was initially to be built by a German firm. After it was revealed that Iran received a great deal of assistence on illegal nuclear enrichment by the Khan organization, Germany withdrew its technical/engineering assistence at Busheir. Iran had a problem. It still possessed the blueprints for Busheir, but they were written in German. Iran turned to Russia for assistence and the Russians agreed to help. Russia translated the German plans for the facility, and discovered that it could not construct the plant per the original German design. The solution? Rework the plans to keep what could be salvaged and build the remainder of the facility on the faulty Russian design used at Chernobyl. A hybrid nuclear facility.

This hybrid state of affairs will suffice for Iran. From the topsy-turvy Iranian point of view, nuclear power generation will be a by-product of Busheir. It's primary function is to serve as a feeder plant for UH6 cascade-cetrifuges which enrich spent uranium to weapons grade.

The International Atomic Energy Agency will assist any nation which desires to enter the arena of nuclear power generation. This assistence is predicated on the commitment of interested nations to accept IAEA oversight. The IAEA has discovered that Iran has been cheating and that is has two parallel nuclear programs... a public program for civilian nuclear power generation and a hidden military nuclear program to develop nuclear weapons.

 

[EAGLE1]

The IAEA has discovered that Iran has been cheating and that is has two parallel nuclear programs... a public program for civilian nuclear power generation and a hidden military nuclear program to develop nuclear weapons

Really? Didnt know that. Got any links?

 

[Tashah]

Really? Didnt know that. Got any links?

You might want to peruse UN Resolution 1747 and attached annexes.

 

[Red_Dave]

Your wallet will be threatened when the gas prices go up and some group of politicians want to raise taxes for more military spending.

For those of you with 401ks, IRA, and other investments, how do you think such an exchange will affect the stock market?

What are you personally doing to prepare for this event?

Your forgetting the fact that war is incredibly good for buissness given the fact that largest corporations tend to be those involved in the oil and weapons/aerospace industys.These people have money coming out of there ears when the price of oil goes up and the demand for weapons goes up.

 

[Jerry]

Your forgetting the fact that war is incredibly good for buissness given the fact that largest corporations tend to be those involved in the oil and weapons/aerospace industys.These people have money coming out of there ears when the price of oil goes up and the demand for weapons goes up.

Assuming we have a pres. who will go to war rather than cut-n-run, you're right.

 

[Voidwar]

Not neccesarily oil doesn't come out of the ground that easily, especially in Iran.

Easier than mining heavy atoms and refining to make fuel rods . .
Wildcat Oil Workers = Easy to Find.
Nuclear Plant Engineers = Not So Much.
I rest my case.

 

[EAGLE1]

Easier than mining heavy atoms and refining to make fuel rods . .
Wildcat Oil Workers = Easy to Find.
Nuclear Plant Engineers = Not So Much.
I rest my case.

Iran's oil reserves at current usage rates projected to last 80 years. I rest my case.