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Interpreting the Constitution or laws

misterman said:
And I trust a guy who has studied what they meant extensively more than I trust you to know.
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That and 5 bucks will get you a cup of coffee, but that's all.
 
Crunch said:
That and 5 bucks will get you a cup of coffee, but that's all.
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No, actually, if this were, say, a court of law, it would get me much much more.
 
misterman said:
No, actually, if this were, say, a court of law, it would get me much much more.
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People who are experts on a subject often are tasked with making decisions on that subject? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! MY OPINION IS JUST AS WELL INFORMED AS AN EXPERTS!
 
Deuce said:
People who are experts on a subject often are tasked with making decisions on that subject? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! MY OPINION IS JUST AS WELL INFORMED AS AN EXPERTS!
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Yes, because knowing alot about something is actually bad. It corrupts you, and makes you closed-minded. People who know nothing are the ones who really know everything. It's so simple.
 
misterman said:
Yes, because knowing alot about something is actually bad. It corrupts you, and makes you closed-minded. People who know nothing are the ones who really know everything. It's so simple.
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What do you really know about the person you're standing up for?
 
I would like to raise a couple of points that on the subject of the right to keep and to bear arms that I never see raised in most of these type (Right To Keep And Bear Arms) discussions.

1: The right to bear arms actually pre-dates the Constitution,... so to argue what the founders intended with regards to the right as specified by their "2nd Amendment" is a red herring.

The 2nd. Amendment addresses one or two aspects of the "RTKABA" but it in no-way diminishes the other aspects that (again) pre-dates the Constitution itself.

To re-phrase this point with a question; "What gave the founding father's the right to take up arms against the King?" It couldn't have been the 2nd. Amendment as it hadn't been written yet.

2: Along the lines of the 2nd. Amendment and to put it in it's proper context,... I find it very helpful to look at some of the State's Constitutions and to examine the way they (State's Constitutions) deal with the issue.

Article 12, Section 1, declares the militia to be "all persons over the age of seventeen (17) years, except those persons who may be exempted by the laws of the United States or of this state". --Indiana State Constitution

So much for the notion that the founders were talking only about "standing armies" and "the organized Militia."
 
misterman said:
Yes, because knowing alot about something is actually bad. It corrupts you, and makes you closed-minded. People who know nothing are the ones who really know everything. It's so simple.
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I hope you don't mind me reminding you of this quote from time to time, Mister.
 
misterman said:
As long as you understand that it was sarcastic.
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Surely you've noticed by now that conservatives don't really... get sarcasm...

I mean, there are people who think Steven Colbert is Comedy Central trying to "balance" Jon Stewart's liberalism.
 
Deuce said:
Surely you've noticed by now that conservatives don't really... get sarcasm...
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And the other side of the coin is I can't believe they're serious about some of the things they say, it just has to be sarcasm.
 
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