Insurrection in Chicago - Chicago police ordered to ignore Border Patrol agents’ plea for help while surrounded by angry mob of protesters

[BabaVoss]

No, the larger point in our exchanges remains that you make assertions you cannot support and then run from them. Trump has many faults, but he is not to be blamed for your irrational statements.

Your opinion is noted.
But wrong.
I didn’t care about your misinterpretations.
My assertions stand on reality. I did not blame trump for my statements.
Trump will be responsible if someone gets killed because he is playing politics by putting people in dangerous situations of his own creation. I believe that outcome is his intent. It will serve his twisted purposes.
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[BabaVoss]

Chicago is within the 100 mile Border Enforcement Zone. The zone is all the borders, not just the southern border.

That is really dumb. Chicago is about 500 miles from Canada.

 

[NJBob]

Trump will be responsible if someone gets killed because he is playing politics by putting people in dangerous situations of his own creation.

Perhaps he’s doing it to claim, after the fact, that his sending troops into blue cities and states was justified.

I believe that outcome is his intent. It will serve his twisted purposes.

Is his purpose to suspend/cancel the ‘26 and ‘28 elections?

My guess is that’s exactly his intention.

 

[Tigerace117]

Assuming the story cited in the OP is accurate, this really could backfire on the mayor and those in Illinois opposed to Trump sending in the National Guard.

Trump probably doesn't have the legal standing to send in the troops to protect state interests when state officials oppose the use of the NG. But Trump can most certainly send in the National Guard to protect federal interests, e.g. protect a IRS office or federal officials. If ICE officers start facing physical harm from protesters and local police refuse to come to their aid, then I think Trump would be entirely within his rights to use the NG to protect federal immigration law enforcement officials.

Nobody in Chicago is going to care that Trump is screeching about how the occupying troops are there to protect his personal Gestapo, sorry. Nobody is going to see it as any sort of justification.

 

[BirdinHand]

Perhaps he’s doing it to claim, after the fact, that his sending troops into blue cities and states was justified.


Is his purpose to suspend/cancel the ‘26 and ‘28 elections?

My guess is that’s exactly his intention.

I don’t think his thoughts go that deep.

Honestly, I don’t.

He’s not smart enough to think that far ahead.

(His “advisors” - perhaps. Trump himself? That man is about as deep as a thimble of water)

 

[SavannahMann]

Chicago police ordered to ignore Border Patrol agents’ plea for help while surrounded by angry mob of protesters (link). Is this really happening? Do those giving the "orders" not believe that they are in the U.S.? Whether those under attack are ICE agents or "Joe Blow" is it legal for mobs to attack American citizens? Excerpt:

Tomorrow's version will have the Chicago police directing traffic to join the others surrounding the ICE agents. The day after will have the Chicago Police doing the surrounding in plainclothes and with unmarked cars.

 

[NJBob]

I don’t think his thoughts go that deep.

Honestly, I don’t.

He’s not smart enough to think that far ahead.

(His “advisors” - perhaps. Trump himself? That man is about as deep as a thimble of water)

Trump himself is not a deep thinker, that’s clear to see but there’s always that ”last person he talked to” factor that should be considered.

 

[BirdinHand]

Trump himself is not a deep thinker, that’s clear to see but there’s always that ”last person he talked to” factor that should be considered.

Yep.

I agree.

And those persons are the more dangerous ones.

Trump is a convenient idiot tool used to achieve their goals.

Easily manipulated.

 

[j brown's body]

Trump himself is not a deep thinker, that’s clear to see but there’s always that ”last person he talked to” factor that should be considered.

Maybe not much of a thinker but a top-rate schemer.

 

[Lovebug]

They're really not human, are they?

Dehumanizing them and showing cruelty is the point.

MAGAs have been dehumanizing brown people for a very long time. Herding them into detention centers like cattle is being cheered.
What a hypocritical worlds we live in.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Democrats want insurrection - they desperately fight hard for chaos and crime

don't they? I mean the proof is real - inner city crime, homeless, illegally here people, drugs, gangs and when there is any political motives? Violence and riots and looting

and Democrats have run the big cities for decades ..... the facts and proof are what they are

 

[trixare4kids]

MAGAs have been dehumanizing brown people for a very long time. Herding them into detention centers like cattle is being cheered.

Are you saying everyone who voted for Trump has done this?
Go ahead and prove your thesis.

What a hypocritical worlds we live in.

No, what a hypocritical world you live in.

 

[trixare4kids]

Get a grip, people.

A grip, people? Do I sense a lecture coming from you?

Why can't we agree that this is a bad situation?

What shouldn't be happening? ICE defending themselves from hyper aggressive, some criminal, violent protestors?

Can't we just agree that this shouldn't be happening?

Like it or not, ICE is in Chicago to do their job.

 

[j brown's body]

A grip, people? Do I sense a lecture coming from you?

What shouldn't be happening? ICE defending themselves from hyper aggressive, some criminal, violent protestors?

Like it or not, ICE is in Chicago to do their job.

The solution is simple. Send ICE home. It isn't wanted there and their work is unneccesary.

 

[j brown's body]

Are you saying everyone who voted for Trump has done this?
Go ahead and prove your thesis.

No, what a hypocritical world you live in.

Not all Trump voters think Mexicans immigrants are rapists, but are ok with their leader calling them that?

 

[BabaVoss]

Perhaps he’s doing it to claim, after the fact, that his sending troops into blue cities and states was justified.


Is his purpose to suspend/cancel the ‘26 and ‘28 elections?

My guess is that’s exactly his intention.

Yes. And martial law. Donald is a Mad King wannabe/

 

[Linc]

That is really dumb. Chicago is about 500 miles from Canada.

That map is another fancy from field martial miller.

 

[Linc]

A grip, people? Do I sense a lecture coming from you?

What shouldn't be happening? ICE defending themselves from hyper aggressive, some criminal, violent protestors?

Like it or not, ICE is in Chicago to do their job.

all BOILs, and you know it better than most magas

 

[BabaVoss]

Democrats want insurrection - they desperately fight hard for chaos and crime

Aa demonstrated by Jan 6th. Oh wait...

don't they? I mean the proof is real - inner city crime, homeless, illegally here people, drugs, gangs and when there is any political motives? Violence and riots and looting

Do you believe Portland has burned to the ground? Like Trumpy boy says?
The fear you guys concoct for yourselves is unbelievable.
How do you work up the courage to leave your trailer?
Donald himself told all those military brass types that he was afraid of cities. And of stairs.
I feel sure they were impressed.

and Democrats have run the big cities for decades ..... the facts and proof are what they are

Yes, cities all have problems.
Not one of them is perfect.
Crime exists wherever human beings are.
Most big cities are run by democrats because that's what people vote for when they gather in large numbers.
That is exactly why you've been conditioned to bleat "democrat-run cities".
Because there are few "republican-run cities", and none that don't have those same kinds of problems.
Bleat on, as you have been trained.

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[WisconIndependent]

That is really dumb. Chicago is about 500 miles from Canada.

Unless they have changed the border between the USA and Canada, the map shown earlier is wrong. This map of the border shows the real border and it does not come near Chicago. It is approximately 300 miles away and is above lake Michigan. The map that shows Chicago on the border by way of Lake Michigan would make my town in Central Wisconsin a border town.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Just so I have this right, because this event is the perfect collision of stupidity and political spin.

ICE and Border Patrol agents roll up into Chicago, who as a city cannot go a single weekend without double digit killings, predictably Federal agents end up overwhelmed by obstructionists masquerading as "protestors," also predictably violence ensues, Federal agents deploy tear gas and "accidentally" hit Chicago Police who did respond, naturally Chicago Police disperse since they are not wearing head to toe covering and gear, and then the Ice Queen goes to Lord Trump and complains Chicago Police "ignored" the pleas from the Federal agents who again tear gassed that same Chicago Police.

Oh, I forgot, the trash New York Post runs with it.

This reads like something out of an SNL skit, or perhaps TheOnion.

Go on, tell me again someone is being reasonable about all this?

 

[Luce]

Certainly so. Which is why they want to bring in the National Guard. Someone who will actually do something to protect officers just trying to do their jobs.

Who are untrained for the mission.

This should go well for everyone.

 

[Utility Man]

Mutual aid is an organizational model where voluntary, collaborative exchanges of resources and services for common benefit take place amongst community members to overcome social, economic, and political barriers to meeting common needs.......

Mutual aid - Wikipedia

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Remember, maga sent immigrants there to cause pain.......



......and now maga is hurt because the libs are helping the immigrants.

 

[SavannahMann]

Mutual aid is an organizational model where voluntary, collaborative exchanges of resources and services for common benefit take place amongst community members to overcome social, economic, and political barriers to meeting common needs.......

Mutual aid - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Remember, maga sent immigrants there to cause pain.......



......and now maga is hurt because the libs are helping the immigrants.

This is the funniest one. ICE forgot to hold onto the Baddie they had in custody.



I don't think they even noticed he escaped.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Are you saying the shores of Lake Michigan is a border?

According to the US government and CBP.